Leaker: Future iPhone Models to Come in 'Exquisite' Thinner Box

[AE_stc]

...what’s wrong with your computer’s USB port? Is it USB 1.0 or something? What in the world do you mean it can’t charge an iPhone?

So many people here seem to be actively excited about the lack of a charger. I don’t get it.

it doesn’t matter how fast or slow a USB port charges it’s beside the point. My experience is that they charge slow. But again, beside the point. Apple should include a charger with their device that needs to recharge its battery

 

[NT1440]

So many people here seem to be actively excited about the lack of a charger. I don’t get it.

it doesn’t matter how fast or slow a USB port charges it’s beside the point. My experience is that they charge slow. But again, beside the point. Apple should include a charger with their device that needs to recharge its battery

I don’t feel one way or the other, your post was just nonsensical on that part about usb charging...that hasn’t been the case in nearly a decade now.

 

[cmaier]

Uhh that rate is called gravity, which is pretty easy to quantify....

But i didn’t quantify it. Just like it’s pretty easy to quantify how much this will help the environment (all one needs is data on inputs and logistics). The fact that he didn’t do it doesn’t mean it’s impossible to *qualitatively* know what will happen.

 

[Abazigal]

So many people here seem to be actively excited about the lack of a charger. I don’t get it.

it doesn’t matter how fast or slow a USB port charges it’s beside the point. My experience is that they charge slow. But again, beside the point. Apple should include a charger with their device that needs to recharge its battery

In the same vein, I think too many people are freaking out over a change that is likely going to impact only a very small proportion of users.

 

[Abazigal]

The 5w charger, lightning cable, EarPods and lightning adaptor that came with my 8+ are still sitting untouched in the iphone box since 2017 in their original packaging.

Were the charging brick and EarPods to be removed, I would not be exactly losing anything, nor would I really be impacted by this considering how I already have my own charging solutions at home and at work.

In addition, I am also a fan of the slim box that refurbished iPhones come in (I still have the one that my 6S+ came in when I sent it for servicing many years ago). It takes up way less space on my shelf than the 8+ box at any rate.

 

[-BigMac-]

In my dream, iPhone 12 will be free.😂

This guy really making a public prediction based on a dream? Lol

 

[MacBH928]

"Just like we had the courage to drop all ports, the function keys, the physical escape key, the scissor keyboards...today we drop chargers!" *the crowd roars!*

I'm all for avoiding extra junk. I have like three unused Lightning earpods, and nobody wants them because everybody has AirPods and they don'tt work with other devices.

But there's always someone who'll need a charger and charging extra (no pun intended) makes Apple look cheap.

The best solution would be to include a coupon to pick either a free charger or like 5$ App Store credit. Of course that doesn't sound like Apple. But it would reduce waste a lot. Plenty people have enough chargers.

I really think the best solution is to have a bundled one that comes for $5-10 extra. Those with plethora of chargers will just opt for the cheaper. $10 might sound cheap but when you know they sell like 30M iPhones, thats $300M.

 

[theorist9]

..... Can you provide the exact details on the amount of fuel not burned because of this (and proof that this will actually be the case and not just negated by other transport practices) and then also the direct environmental impact from that exact reduction in emissions? I'd be interested to see how this would amount to something in the face of China outdoing the entire world on emissions 1000x over.
...or are you just doing what everyone else is doing and guessing that there must be SOME environmental impact even if you cannot possibly comprehend or codify it. Yeah, that's what I thought.

I don't know what you mean by emissions (and I'm not sure if you know either, since you didn't specify), but if you're referring to CO2 emissions, China's currently represent roughly 30% of the global total. [On a per capita basis, China's CO2 emissions are about half the US's; and for cumulative CO2 emissions to date (and thus total CO2 contribution to global warming), the US has released about twice as much as China—though China is catching up.] So when you say "China outdoing the entire world on emissions 1000x over", I would say that, when it comes to China's emissions, you are "guessing ... even if you cannot possibly comprehend or codify it".

My point is that it was hypocritical to rake that user over the coals for asserting the new packaging "will have a huge environmental impact" because they didn't support that statement with an exact market analysis, when you're far more sloppy with your own assertions.

 

[djdtox]

The headphones I could have probably overlooked but you literally need the charger to even use the phone at all.. In my opinion this puts a dangerous precedent out to other companies

 

[DCIFRTHS]

I have never used an Apple charging brick. Never. Since 30GB iPod Video.

It's a universal USB device you can plug it into just about anything and start charging. I could plug my iPhone into my stereo receiver and charge it. My alarm clock, my car, my laptops, man even most airplanes have USB ports. I have never used an Apple charger because its not efficient. People are complaining they aren't including a rapid charger. The reality check is they wouldn't ever do that it would just be another 5W for the junk drawer.

Go ahead and count how many unused USB ports you can find in your house I'll wait.

A charger is 100% not nessary to charge an iPhone. Never has been.

No disrespect meant, but you can plug your stuff into anything you want to. On the other hand, I am more particular about what I plug my stuff into. My preferred choice is the included charging brick that came with my iPhone.

BTW, my 11 Pro came with a rapid charger - not the standard 5 watt one.

I’ll post back after I’m done counting... 😏

Edit: Changed wording

 

[Delgibbons]

Leaker L0vetodream this morning posted a tweet corroborating recent rumors that Apple's "iPhone 12" lineup won't come with EarPods or a charger in the box, adding that this will also eventually apply to the existing second-generation iPhone SE.

L0vetodream also claims that future iPhone packaging will be "thinner" and "exquisite," which would make sense if Apple's handsets are set to come in lieu of a bulky power adapter and EarPods case. Apple is already renowned for its svelte, economical packaging, and slimming down its iPhone boxes would cut down on waste and shipping costs.

The lack of a charger and EarPods lines up with predictions made by Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo and analysts at Barclays last week. Apple is expected to release a separate new 20W power adapter as an optional accessory for iPhones and end production of its existing 5W and 18W power adapters later this year.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1278206861989175296

The form factor of the new 20W power adapter is said to be similar to the 18W version, with USB-C Power Delivery for fast charging. Kuo also expects that Apple will stop including a 5W power adapter with the current second-generation iPhone SE later this year.

Barclays still expects Apple to include a Lightning to USB-C cable in the box as the only accessory included with the "iPhone 12," which is expected to come in four models: One new 5.4-inch device, two 6.1-inch models, and one 6.7-inch handset.

Rumors suggest the 6.7-inch ‌iPhone‌ and one 6.1-inch model will be higher-end OLED devices with triple-lens cameras, while the 5.4 and 6.1-inch models will be lower-end iPhones with dual-lens cameras and a more affordable price tag.

Article Link: Leaker: Future iPhone Models to Come in 'Exquisite' Thinner Box

Yeah because when I spent a grand on my phone... It's the box that I think of every day.

🤦‍♂️

 

[I7guy]

I have a bag full if 5 and 12 watt chargers. I don’t need to charge my phone more than once a day overnight. If it’s a choice between lower cost phone/positive impact on the environment, I’ll take it. I don’t care if Apple earns a few more cents.

 

[nylonsteel]

im for the change
i have many chargers
no need for wired ear buds
better for enviroment

 

[otternonsense]

I'm all for avoiding extra junk. I have like three unused Lightning earpods, and nobody wants them because everybody has AirPods and they don'tt work with other devices.

But there's always someone who'll need a charger and charging extra (no pun intended) makes Apple look cheap.

The best solution would be to include a coupon to pick either a free charger or like 5$ App Store credit. Of course that doesn't sound like Apple. But it would reduce waste a lot. Plenty people have enough chargers.

I think a configurable package is the best way to go, whether it's un-Apple or not. Plenty people may have chargers, but very few people have fast chargers with USBC, and Apple only started shipping those with the 11 Pro last year.

This is an impossibly cheap shot move by Cook & co.

 

[djdtox]

I have a bag full if 5 and 12 watt chargers. I don’t need to charge my phone more than once a day overnight. If it’s a choice between lower cost phone/positive impact on the environment, I’ll take it. I don’t care if Apple earns a few more cents.

Why do people keep saying lower cost phone?

 

[AE_stc]

Why do people keep saying lower cost phone?

Seriously if they think Apple will lower they price even by $30 dollars..

 

[CarlJ]

hopefully they say something more tactful and less pretentious

"you'll see a new design for our packaging due to less content inside, helping us preserve resources and enforce our commitment to the environment, while still maintaining our aesthetic."

Its’s funny to watch people here (not you) get outraged at Apple for a word (exquisite) chosen by a random person on Twitter. Leaks about hardware generally come from the supply chain in China. I don’t expect that Apple’s marketing department is currently ramping up production of marketing terms in China. That’s something they can manufacture entirely in California.

 

[CarlJ]

It’s odd you would throw a charger that’s way better than your current one in the draw, would be like saying if Apple gave you free AirPods you would throw it in the draw cause you already have EarPods.

What led you to assume that a charger Apple might ship with the iPhone 12 is “way better” than the ones I’m currently using? I’ve got a bunch of things in my house that charge via USB. Do you expect that I have a dozen separate little one-port power bricks plugged in for them? I’ve got a few Anker multi-port chargers at home, and one at work. The one I bought a few years ago worked great with my iPhone 6 and iPhone 8 and iPad (and a ton of other USB-charged things), and the newer one with USB-C works beautifully as well and will optimally charge an iPhone 12. Why would I want single-port USB chargers clogging every outlet in the house, when I can have a few multi-port chargers instead? Oh, and the charger that came with my iPhone 8 is still in its original plastic wrap, sitting in the iPhone box.

Apple has been including a charging brick in the box in case you didn’t already have one. The segment of the customer base who don’t already have a suitable charger is dwindling. Caring about the environment includes not sending out parts that are unlikely to get used. Plus, AC chargers are country specific, unlike USB cables. Not including the charging brick means fewer SKUs to build and ship and stock. The charger can be an option at time of purchase, in precisely the same way they do a “would you like fries with that?” for AirPods and AppleCare.

 

[drgut101]

Mouse - yes
Keyboard - yes
Trackpad - yes

all come with cables that you plug into your computer to charge with

My computer has USB C ports. Guess I need to buy the 5w charger to charge them.

 

[compwiz1202]

I want to see some magic act where there is an old box, and someone strokes it while whispering Thinnnnnerrrrrrr, and then suddenly the new thinner box is in the old one's place.

 

[goobot]

What led you to assume that a charger Apple might ship with the iPhone 12 is “way better” than the ones I’m currently using? I’ve got a bunch of things in my house that charge via USB. Do you expect that I have a dozen separate little one-port power bricks plugged in for them? I’ve got a few Anker multi-port chargers at home, and one at work. The one I bought a few years ago worked great with my iPhone 6 and iPhone 8 and iPad (and a ton of other USB-charged things), and the newer one with USB-C works beautifully as well and will optimally charge an iPhone 12. Why would I want single-port USB chargers clogging every outlet in the house, when I can have a few multi-port chargers instead? Oh, and the charger that came with my iPhone 8 is still in its original plastic wrap, sitting in the iPhone box.

Apple has been including a charging brick in the box in case you didn’t already have one. The segment of the customer base who don’t already have a suitable charger is dwindling. Caring about the environment includes not sending out parts that are unlikely to get used. Plus, AC chargers are country specific, unlike USB cables. Not including the charging brick means fewer SKUs to build and ship and stock. The charger can be an option at time of purchase, in precisely the same way they do a “would you like fries with that?” for AirPods and AppleCare.

I don’t have to assume anything because starting with the iPhone 11 less than a year ago Apple started including a 18 watt brick. If you would have read through the entire convo before replying you would have known that.

 

[CarlJ]

I don’t have to assume anything because starting with the iPhone 11 less than a year ago Apple started including a 18 watt brick. If you would have read through the entire convo before replying you would have known that.

I’m not responding to the “entire convo”, I’m responding to the entirety of the two sentences you wrote to me.

 

[mazz0]

If a new and better charger is superfluous then so is a new phone.

Riiiiight, cos half the reason you buy an iPhone 11 is for the faster charger!

Also giving someone the “choice” to spend more money on what was previously included sounds quite fictitious to me.

I don’t think you used the right word there. It’s clearly not fictitious, it’s objective fact. You might not like it, most people don’t like it when the price goes up, but you still have a choice now. I for one will be choosing not to buy another charger to got in the cupboard full of chargers, or another set of headphones to go in the draw full of headphones.
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What kind of logic is this? You have no "choice" in either case. And in both cases you can pick another charger.

This logic:
Situation 1: All iPhones come with chargers. You have no choice to not acquire one with your new iPhone.
Situation 2: Chargers are a separate purchase. You have a choice whether or not to acquire a charger with your new iPhone.
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Getting less is giving you choice? That's some twisted logic.

It's fact. It is a choice where non existed before. I think what you mean is you can’t understand why somebody would make a different choice from you (the option of not getting an extra charger).

 

[hagjohn]

If they do not put in a charger and you need one. Do not buy an apple one. Buy some other brand.

 

[goobot]

Riiiiight, cos half the reason you buy an iPhone 11 is for the faster charger!

Lol how does that change anything? It doesn’t. THAT’S a fact.
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I’m not responding to the “entire convo”, I’m responding to the entirety of the two sentences you wrote to me.

Sorry, I guess apple shouldn’t included a fast charger because you specifically don’t need one. I forgot Apple designed their products around you specifically.
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I don’t think you used the right word there. It’s clearly not fictitious, it’s objective fact. You might not like it, most people don’t like it when the price goes up, but you still have a choice now. I for one will be choosing not to buy another charger to got in the cupboard full of chargers, or another set of headphones to go in the draw full of headphones.

I want the choice to buy my car without tires at the same price point with them!!! How dare they not give me a choice!!! Why can’t I buy my phone without a camera at the same 1000$? Where is my choice?!?!