I joined the upgrade program last year for the ability to upgrade every year but this years leaks indicate a lackluster upgrade. I’ll hold off for the reviews before giving up my 11 Pro Max simply for the battery life alone. I’m still at 100% battery health and I got my phone last sept.
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Leaker: 'iPhone 12' to Feature Same Notch Size, LiDAR Limited to 6.7-inch Model
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They are more than likely accurate especially the notch part. It's not what we want but tough!
As much as I'd love for the 5.4" to have all of the Pro features of it's bigger brothers, how do you expect them to fit all of that technology in a smaller package AND decent battery life?
While technically true, let it go... not worth hanging on to those rumors for this year's lineup.
I really hope some of these leaks aren’t the full picture - the idea of having three tiers of phones is really confusing and at various price points I’m sure others would
Are there any current rumors that would suggest the iPhone 12 Pro models to have less of a bezel? So that maybe the 6.1” is the same size as a 5.8” iPhone 11 Pro, with just a bigger OLED panel?
With the introduction of LiDAR in the iPad Pro current models, I can’t imagine that they wouldn’t include it on one of the “Pro” models
Are there any current rumors that would suggest the iPhone 12 Pro models to have less of a bezel? So that maybe the 6.1” is the same size as a 5.8” iPhone 11 Pro, with just a bigger OLED panel?
With the introduction of LiDAR in the iPad Pro current models, I can’t imagine that they wouldn’t include it on one of the “Pro” models
I completely disagree. A consumer would be more likely to upgrade if the notch is much smaller. Having the same size notch just makes the redesign look too much like the previous models, which in turn makes for less incentive to upgrade. And yes, Apple would absolutely market the reduced notch on stage. They fully understand the importance of improved aesthetics to consumers.
And a smaller notch matters for performance improvements too. It means less obstructed video in landscape mode, which is a huge deal. And the potential to see more information in your status bar instead of having to awkwardly reach up to the right corner and pull down to see your battery percentage, as an example.
Engineering, like life, is full of compromises.
If the current LiDAR sensor would not fit in the smaller 5.4" iPhone as-is, would you be willing to accept a smaller battery, with less capacity, say 70%, to free up space for the LiDAR sensor?
Or...would you prefer Apple hold off a couple years on the LiDAR sensor, and their AR plans altogether, until a smaller LiDAR sensor is ready and could fit in a smaller 5.4" iPhone without a battery capacity compromise?
I know which way I'd vote! And that would be to only release the sensor in the larger phone.
So if I'm understanding you correctly, you believe that this is the fake leak, rather than the earlier one with the smaller notch and more impressive hardware?
I'm starting to think the iPhone 12 is going to be a big disappointment. I remember when the iPhone 11 came out and people on here and in real life were saying things like "that's the same thing just with a new camera" or "so the iPhone is basically just a camera now, that's the only feature Apple cares about". I was hoping the iP12 would be the next big thing but it looks like it will be some camera tweaks now with squared off edges instead of rounded.
Maybe I'm being overly optimistic but, yes, I don't believe this is correct. I believe that the Pro models will still get the updated camera set and that most if not all models will feature a smaller notch. I hedge on saying "some" here because, while I'd love to be wrong, I don't know if Apple can keep the 5.4" model price at $649 and feature a smaller notch with newer Face ID technology. Again, I would love to be wrong on this as I plan on purchasing the 5.4" model.
I also never notice the notch.
Cook has made Apple the most valuable company in the world - seems pretty qualified. His job is not making random Macrumors forum members who are going to complain about everything no matter what happy.
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Prosser says the notch is not accurate. No reason to expect they are accurate given that apple didn’t make these things.
As someone who previously used the iPhone X for well over a year, I agree with those who say the notch is no big deal. You don't even think about it once you start actually using the phone. If you don't like the little notch in full-screen video, then you can easily switch the video to letterbox on the sides. I traded my X in for an SE, but that had absolutely nothing to do with the notch, but rather just wanting a smaller phone (I tend to go back and forth on that, lol!).
I may just end up seeing how long my 8 plus will last. So far there is no compelling reason to “upgrade”. Perhaps another few years. I should be good 2 or 3 more if need be. Just say no to the notch.
I hate that.
Back to the iPhone Plus days, you had dual camera on the bigger model. Now at least you can get the same camera on the Pro and you get to pick the size that fits you.
The Plus was more expensive that the regular phone, but we didn't have the "Pro" model back then, it was a different price point. Paying the premium price for the smaller Pro and have to renounce to a feature hurts.
I will upgrade from my 11 pro max, mainly so my wife can take my 11 and retire her XR that just isn’t getting her through the day battery wise (not to mention she’s been pretty tough on it physically). I like the squared edge sides better as a case design, and whatever ends up being the final tech specs will be what it is. If my wife didn’t need to upgrade, I wouldn’t think about upgrading my 11PM, as it’s been a great device.
"Did Apple pull a fast one on the leak community?"
Seriously, how stupid would this be? 'Yes, let's leak a superior product with a widely desired feature (smaller notch) and then severely disappoint them in the fall when the product doesn't actually have said feature. Fall's Fools, everybody! Give us your $1200!'
Seriously, how stupid would this be? 'Yes, let's leak a superior product with a widely desired feature (smaller notch) and then severely disappoint them in the fall when the product doesn't actually have said feature. Fall's Fools, everybody! Give us your $1200!'
Because it's black and disappears into your peripheral vision.
I understand the argument that it's asymmetrical when in landscape mode, but I've had an iPhone 11 for eight months and watched video plenty of times and never feel particularly annoyed.
First, I don't see how a hole-punch camera looks less stupid than a notch. I feel like it would bother me even more. It's right there in the middle, rather than at the edge.
Second, that doesn't give room for the other sensors. Really, if you don't want the notch, what you want them to do is to increase the bezel entirely on that edge. And if you want that to be symmetrical, they'll have to do it on the other side as well, for no reason other than aesthetics.
besides, case manufacturers don't even need accurate notch dimensions, because why would they?
They might call it the 11s Pro Max, or they might decide that's just too stupidly long and go with 12 Pro Max.
Because currently they're doing the 3 year cycle, but not confirmed.
iPhone 6, iPhone 6s, iPhone 7 = 3 years of same design
Right after them, iPhone X = new design and form factor
And it's already been three years with that X design (X, Xs, 11/Pro) so we're not expecting an S release but iPhone 12 with new design refresh and sizes.