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Leaker: Upcoming MacBook Pro to See Price Hike Over Current Model, Equal Performance Across 14 and 16-Inch Sizes
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Hiking up the price of the new MacBook is one thing, and in light of all the shortages of hardware components, it might even be inevitable. But what bothers me that I don't really see anything "Pro" in the MacBooks. It used to be a no brainer for web developers, but Windows 10 laptops may be the better choice when it comes to machines for web developers. But the Apple MacBook Pro hardware seems to be catered for the hipster Starbucks user, and what used to be "monsters" when it came to performance. The last 3/4 years MBP's seem to be mediocre in comparison to Windows laptops.
And yes I know the M1(x) is suppose to bring Apple on top again, but that's just half the story. MacOS is far from innovative anymore. Windows is doing a lot more cool stuff like WSL 2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux), Docker runs faster because of far better disc IO, and new feature releases are being done twice a year.
So in a nutshell MacBook Pros have one thing going for them and that's the best trackpad you can find. Hopefully they get there act right, and take developers a lot more serious.
And yes I know the M1(x) is suppose to bring Apple on top again, but that's just half the story. MacOS is far from innovative anymore. Windows is doing a lot more cool stuff like WSL 2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux), Docker runs faster because of far better disc IO, and new feature releases are being done twice a year.
So in a nutshell MacBook Pros have one thing going for them and that's the best trackpad you can find. Hopefully they get there act right, and take developers a lot more serious.
It only says the 14" is going to cost more than the 13" model.
Although, with a bigger screen and better processor, I'd expect it to cost more. I don't need a leaker to tell me that...
Same. If my needs were greater, I could see wanting extra ports or the ability to drive more monitors.
Sadly, though, software always gets more demanding over time, and I'm sure I'll be back on here in a few years complaining about how this M1 Air is "slowing down" under MacOS Fresno or whatever.
Yeah, I am in no hurry to get a new Apple Silicon Mac laptop anytime soon, since I am really enjoying my M1 MacBook Air. Instead, I am waiting to hear news about the next Mac Minis and/or the rumored "Mac Pro Cube", as I am looking to get a headless Apple Silicon desktop Mac, and I want to wait for the so-called M1X announcements and the like, or maybe even wait for the M2X.
This is disappointing on many fronts.
When Apple introduced the Touchbar, they raised prices by $300. Many of us did not want to go with this bad deal and skipped those machines altogether. By the same logic, removing the Touchbar should bring a DECREASE in prices.
Then there's the matter of GPU. Currently the 15" is faster because of the discrete GPU, which still has a significant speed advantage over iGPU. We don't know how the graphics will work on these machines, but removing the discrete GPU would be a step backwards. I'm eager to see games frame rate results. And that comes with a price increase?!?!? Sorry, but no more 15" MacBook Pro for me.
When Apple introduced the Touchbar, they raised prices by $300. Many of us did not want to go with this bad deal and skipped those machines altogether. By the same logic, removing the Touchbar should bring a DECREASE in prices.
Then there's the matter of GPU. Currently the 15" is faster because of the discrete GPU, which still has a significant speed advantage over iGPU. We don't know how the graphics will work on these machines, but removing the discrete GPU would be a step backwards. I'm eager to see games frame rate results. And that comes with a price increase?!?!? Sorry, but no more 15" MacBook Pro for me.
it was w worth selling my 2019 intel MacBook Air for my m1 MacBook. so much better, so much so it hasn't given me a single hiccup in a year of use. I sold my other MacBook and upgraded for 100 dollars.
if money grew on trees id own everything but I am going to keep years between upgrades
if money grew on trees id own everything but I am going to keep years between upgrades
Based on real-world testing, the 8-core Apple GPU is competitive with the AMD mobile GPUs on a not-insignificant number of tasks, including "demanding" work like 4K video rendering and editing. So the 16-core and 32-core Apple GPUs coming on these MacBook Pros will be even more capable.
In my real world testing it wasnt and I sent it back. Looking forward to seeing what the new chips are like, but I dont assume anything in regards to the specifications of the up coming MBP, plus the software needs to be written to utilise them properly.
can't wait!
The upcoming 14-inch MacBook Pro is set to be more expensive than the current 13-inch MacBook Pro and both the 14 and 16-inch models will offer the same performance, according to the leaker known as "Dylandkt."
The leaker shared the information on Twitter, explaining that both of the upcoming MacBook Pro models, expected to come in 14 and 16-inch sizes, will feature the same performance due to having the same "M1X" chip.
Currently, the 16-inch MacBook Pro offers a significant performance improvement over the high-end 13-inch models due to its more powerful Intel chips and better thermals, so bringing the two model sizes to parity could be a major boost for owners of the smaller, more portable model.
In addition, the 14-inch MacBook Pro will apparently be more expensive than the current 13-inch MacBook Pro. Dylandkt clarified to MacRumors that this relates to the entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro model with the M1 chip, which starts at $1,299.
Dylandkt also told MacRumors that the 14-inch MacBook Pro will be priced around the current high-end 13-inch model, which it is expected to replace in the lineup, but will be priced much more closely to the 16-inch model due to their similar feature sets and performance.
The current high-end 13-inch MacBook Pro, which still features Intel chips, starts at $1,799. A base configuration with 1TB of storage is also available for $1,999. The current 16-inch MacBook Pro, which is not expected to see a price rise, starts from $2,399. This means that the 14-inch MacBook Pro could be priced in the region of $2,000.
Dylandkt has correctly predicted details about a number of Apple's product launches. As early as November 2020, Dylandkt claimed that the next-generation iPad Pro would feature an M1 chip. This was five months before the device emerged. Before the launch of the 24-inch iMac earlier this year, Dylandkt correctly predicted that the new, redesigned iMac would replace the smaller entry-level iMac only and feature an M1 chip rather than an M1X.
The new MacBook Pro models are expected to debut around October, offering new designs, brighter panels with higher contrast, an improved webcam, function keys with no Touch Bar, more ports, and a MagSafe connector for charging. For more on what to expect, be sure to check out our dedicated MacBook Pro rumor guide.
Article Link: Leaker: Upcoming MacBook Pro to See Price Hike Over Current Model, Equal Performance Across 14 and 16-Inch Sizes
I bought (and am still using) a 15" MBP in 2011 (early) with 4gb ram (since upgraded to 8gb) and 768mb hard drive (since replaced with an SSD), 2.2 ghz quad-core i7, AMD GPU (which sadly died 2 yrs back), for $2200. Which I think is about $2600 in today's dollars.
So a new 14" machine priced around $2000 seems reasonable. I'd give up one inch of display, but get a lighter machine. But not user upgradeable.
Assuming the new 14" ones are $2k for 8GB/256GB then can someone explain how the extra $1000 is worth spending between the base MBA and the new MBP?
I mean M1X sure and 1" extra of screen but double the price? Nah
I mean M1X sure and 1" extra of screen but double the price? Nah
The 14" base model will be starting above $1500 (i think it will be either $1599 or $1699) and will still have 8 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD. And I was optimistic.
It's been mentioned many times already in the comments, the 14" base configuration will be 16/512 just like the 13" Intel MBP it's replacing.
If they could bring back the 15” Pro with 2 thunderbolt ports and an M1, priced at maybe +$1-200 over the 13” M1 I think that would make a lot of people happy. Maybe start calling those two just ‘MacBook’ rather than ‘MacBook Pro’.
unfortunately this and other rumours make it sound like instead the 2 port pro will be going away, and the price of admission to the pro lineup will be jumping way higher 😕
unfortunately this and other rumours make it sound like instead the 2 port pro will be going away, and the price of admission to the pro lineup will be jumping way higher 😕
Not exactly.
Remember back then there were two configurations of the Macbook Pro... starting at $1,499 and $1,799
The entry-level 13" Macbook Pro had function keys and two Thunderbolt ports.
The TouchBar model was the higher-end model at the time. It had four Thunderbolts ports... a faster processor... faster RAM... and a faster iGPU.
So it wasn't just the TouchBar that made it an extra $300... even though revisionist historians like to say it did...
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That's nonsense. If Dell and Lenovo can fit camera tech inside a thin bezel, then so can Apple.
In terms of biometrics, Apple still has it backwards--Touch ID (preferably under the screen) should be used on phones while Face ID should be used on notebooks. Apple is lagging behind (again).
The upcoming 14-inch MacBook Pro is set to be more expensive than the current 13-inch MacBook Pro and both the 14 and 16-inch models will offer the same performance, according to the leaker known as "Dylandkt."
The leaker shared the information on Twitter, explaining that both of the upcoming MacBook Pro models, expected to come in 14 and 16-inch sizes, will feature the same performance due to having the same "M1X" chip.
Currently, the 16-inch MacBook Pro offers a significant performance improvement over the high-end 13-inch models due to its more powerful Intel chips and better thermals, so bringing the two model sizes to parity could be a major boost for owners of the smaller, more portable model.
In addition, the 14-inch MacBook Pro will apparently be more expensive than the current 13-inch MacBook Pro. Dylandkt clarified to MacRumors that this relates to the entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro model with the M1 chip, which starts at $1,299.
Dylandkt also told MacRumors that the 14-inch MacBook Pro will be priced around the current high-end 13-inch model, which it is expected to replace in the lineup, but will be priced much more closely to the 16-inch model due to their similar feature sets and performance.
The current high-end 13-inch MacBook Pro, which still features Intel chips, starts at $1,799. A base configuration with 1TB of storage is also available for $1,999. The current 16-inch MacBook Pro, which is not expected to see a price rise, starts from $2,399. This means that the 14-inch MacBook Pro could be priced in the region of $2,000.
Dylandkt has correctly predicted details about a number of Apple's product launches. As early as November 2020, Dylandkt claimed that the next-generation iPad Pro would feature an M1 chip. This was five months before the device emerged. Before the launch of the 24-inch iMac earlier this year, Dylandkt correctly predicted that the new, redesigned iMac would replace the smaller entry-level iMac only and feature an M1 chip rather than an M1X.
The new MacBook Pro models are expected to debut around October, offering new designs, brighter panels with higher contrast, an improved webcam, function keys with no Touch Bar, more ports, and a MagSafe connector for charging. For more on what to expect, be sure to check out our dedicated MacBook Pro rumor guide.
Article Link: Leaker: Upcoming MacBook Pro to See Price Hike Over Current Model, Equal Performance Across 14 and 16-Inch Sizes
Before I worry about price, I will wait to see if Apple can manage multi-monitor support.
So done with this revering of Jobs. He was a squeeze and scrooge just like the others. They could have delivered the 'best' at affordable prices during his reign and they didn't either. There is no alternative anymore if you want MacOS and they will milk it. They won't make a killer Mac Mini since they can put out second-best models for years and people will have to buy them. I'm one of those people since I make my money with them, but it really sucks when you're coming from a beefed up Hackintosh.
I like the Mx performance, but the rest of the machine really needs to keep up to justify this price hike. I expect 64gb+ models and disk and GPU performance to be market-leading, but they probably won't be as it never has been.
The bottom of the range M1 MacBook beats my top of the range 16” i9 MBP for CPU power.
The new M1X is going to completely wipe its ass.
And on top of that I can get all that power in a smaller form factor and for cheaper than the 16” MBP.
I hit the CPU limit of my 8 core i9 regularly using Cubase. so for me CPU power is what it’s all about. Not docker
The real headline should be “Apple offers 16” performance in a smaller, cheaper format”. But then people here still find reasons to complain!!
ive been buying 15”/16” MBPs purely because I need the maximum CPU available for real-time audio plugins.
but now I can get the power I need, in a form factor I prefer, for less money than before.
finally!!
ive been buying 15”/16” MBPs purely because I need the maximum CPU available for real-time audio plugins.
but now I can get the power I need, in a form factor I prefer, for less money than before.
finally!!
It isn't if you don't want the extra power of the M1X chip (which will likely have 2x the perfromance cores, 2x the GPU cores and possibly support more RAM, displays etc). We already know that the M1 is more than good enough for general use and light "pro" work - the M1X will be for people running "pro" apps that need - and can use - more CPU and GPU cores or need over 16GB of RAM
Remember that the MBA is rumoured to be getting an upgrade to M2 and a total re-design next year. So we could be looking at a scenario like:
New 13" M2 Air: $1000-$1700
New 14" M1X MBP: from $1800
New 16" M1X MBP: from $2400 (main difference being the larger screen).
... i.e. the new MBA will probably make the current low-end 13" MBP irrelevant.
Also note that the M2 will probably only be an incremental 10-20% all-round improvement over the current M1 and may share similar RAM/External displays limits (because they're not an issue on an entry-level ultraportable where the priority os power consumption) whereas the M1X will likely have double the CPU and GPU cores and/or a different balance of performance/economy cores, and support for more RAM, which could lead to 50-100% speed increases for pro apps optimised for multithreading and GPU computing.
(that's taking M2 to mean a direct M1 replacements new core designs + tweaked fabrication process and M1X to mean a more powerful configuration of M1-tech building blocks - if I were Apple I'd find a more consumer-friendly naming scheme)
NB, we're arguing about an article containing self-contradictory statements like this:
...wuh? Pick whichever meaning you prefer.
Sounds to me that we're dealing with an International Journal of the bloomin' Obvious observation that (a) the 14" is a replacement for the high-end 13" MBP not the low-end M1 version (which replaced the '2-port' Intel version, formally known as the 'non-touchbar' version). The low-end M1 MBP will probably hang around until the new MBA launches.
This.
New MBA will likely look similar to the MBP but with bright colours, just like iPad Air vs iPad Pro.
That said, I think the M1 Air will be kept in the line-up for the $999 price point. M2 Air will be more of a replacement for the lower-end M1 MBP.