Lenovo the innovator? Apple the procrastinator.

[Firefly2002]

People that want Blu-ray ? Even though you don't want them to have it. Once again, 1 GB vram maybe overkill for you, but try to remember, will you, it's not all about you. Fingerprint readers are a great time saver. Wimax might be a great wireless feature. Don't know yet. And neither do you. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I like the looks of it and the black macbook. But that's just my persoanl taste. I wouldn't think of putting down somebody elses preference.

Don't be silly, of course it's all about me.

But seriously, 1 GB VRAM is overkill for everything except Crysis at maximum resolution with 16x Anisotropic Filtering and 8x FSAA.... which that graphics card isn't nearly powerful enough to push in the first plcae, and the laptop can't run in the second place.

It's therefore overkill for everyone.

Fingerprint readers.... are very silly. Most people I've talked to agree.

 

[ohforfckssake!]

Fugly, huge, and weighty. Old IBM notebooks were stealth fighters. New ones are a steam train with bells, whistles and fugly crap sticking out. Get a mouthful of those indentations!

 

[sushi]

A great photographer with a pocket camera and a Mac Mini will run circles around a mediocre photographer with the top-of-the-line Nikon/Canon/Hasselblad/etc. and a Lenovo W700... or any other computer. Tools make your work easier, but they're no substitute for knowledge, creativity and experience.

Very true.

Um, I think I'd be looking at who was more qualified for the position and not of what computer they had.

Agree.

It's not about the tool entirely, it has more to do with WHO uses the tool.

How are the specs silly? The thing has over a gig of VRAM and and a tablet built right in! :O 8GB RAM maximum, nVidia quadro, RAID configurations - that's got high-end written all over it.

Yes, no doubt it's a packed machine for sure.

It may not look sexy or anything, but this notebook seems like it'd be the perfect machine for professional photographers or designers that use Vista.

which pro photographer/designer uses Vista?

 

[bartzilla]

As an engineer... the tools that you use will influence your work. This machine is intended for photographers and graphics artists. If I had to hire someone for a job, and two candidates arrived, one carrying a MacBook Pro and one carrying this monster, I know who I would hire.

Well I'd turn up with the Mac under my arm (except... no I wouldn't for just a damn job interview) but as soon as you demonstrated this sort of behaviour you wouldn't get the option of hiring me.

 

[ezekielrage_99]

- Dual Raid hard drives
- QUAD CPU
- 1GB VIDEO CARD
- 400NIT BRIGHT SCREEN
- Fingerprint reader
- WIMAX
- Wireless USB
- BLU-RAY!!!


When will the Macbook Pro get these features? Cricket cricket cricket...

But still it's fugly.... it really doesn't have the appeal the Macbook Pro has (well from the overall design pov).

 

[netdog]

Lenovo has reported battery life as high as nearly 10 minutes!!!

Look out Apple!

(this is a machine that only the spec monkeys that hang around these halls could love)

 

[sushi]

Lenovo has reported battery life as high as nearly 10 minutes!!!

Powerful laptops usually equal short battery lives.

To me, this really isn't a laptop but rather a transportable computer. It has a battery so it can be operated on battery power for short periods, but is really designed to be plugged in.

In the future, we may start seeing more of this type of design. Folks want power, features and portability. This device serves that need.

(this is a machine that only the spec monkeys that hang around these halls could love)

Bragging rights!







Well, until the upgrade comes out.

 

[Tosser]

Fugly, huge, and weighty. Old IBM notebooks were stealth fighters. New ones are a steam train with bells, whistles and fugly crap sticking out. Get a mouthful of those indentations!

Go to lenovo.com, and you'll notice that most have the same "stealthyness" as the IBM Thinkpads.

 

[ohforfckssake!]

I disagree. The new Lenovos are far more baroque than their predecessors. Grilles here, indentations there, weirdly aligned screens, etc.

 

[Tosser]

I disagree. The new Lenovos are far more baroque than their predecessors. Grilles here, indentations there, weirdly aligned screens, etc.

Doesn't look like that to me:

http://www.pc.ibm.com/uk/thinkpad/

 

[vm7118]

Blu-ray is optional, not standard, and who gives a damn. 1 GB VRAM is serious overkill, fingerprint readers are dumb, wimax is meh.

Ugly pos.

LOL!

some people here amaze me. in two years, 1gb of vram definitely won't be "overkill" for applications/games in that era. hell, it probably isn't even overkill for crysis right now.

fingerprint readers are dumb unless you need one.

wimax is meh until sprint/clearwire rolls it out, at which point it could be indispensable.

sure, it ain't the prettiest, but read the ****in specs on it! god, some people are really insane. i.e. people who don't think this is a beast of a notebook, that puts the MBP to shame, are insane. and YES, they do target the same crowd! the crowd looking for big (15/17") high-powered workstation notebooks.

this lenovo pretty much wipes the floor with the MBP, and i will bet my left nut that we will be well into 2011 before there's an apple notebook that offers all of those features.

all that being said, my MBP sure is pretty... i just wish my top of the line apple was as fast as a similarly priced dell

 

[leRiCl]

Besides the built-in tablet, does not look like a computer targeting the aesthetics market, consisting of artists and photographers.

The only other type of person I could think of that might want this, is the Engineer using CAD.

 

[Yixian]

Yeah my next laptop is going to be a Thinkpad ultralight.

You forgot the important part though... this has a quad core processor and all the goodies, and its not even gimungous.

bu bu but the faboys tell me that to put anything more than a ***** GPU, Superdrive and dual core processor it's have to be 4" thick!!

 

[KingYaba]

That $3,000 price tag is a killer. Ten minute battery life? No thanks.

 

[Yixian]

That $3,000 price tag is a killer. Ten minute battery life? No thanks.

mate it's the same price as the high end MacBook pro, and no the battery life isn't half bad actually.

These brain dead fanboys are getting old, fast.

 

[aristobrat]

Apple come on! When lenovo is kicking your butt this bad you have to do SOMETHING. Steve the ref is counting and he's at "9". KO.

Seriously?!

This machine is so niche that it might as well be covered in Swarovski Crystals like Paris Hilton's old SideKick.

 

[MacDawg]

Look, I can afford to buy any notebook I want
But lets be real, this is after all a Mac site, what do you expect?

It could be faster than a speeding bullet and able to leap tall buildings with a single bound and able to bend steel with it's mouse... but the bottom line to me is it runs VISTA (or it is the latest greatest using the ancient XP)

I buy for OSX... my MBP does everything I need AND it runs OSX
I don't have to download an update every 3 days for security
I don't have to update my AVG every day
I don't have to update my Defender every day
I don't have to use all that horsepower to scan in the background all day
I don't have to worry about everything sent to me in email
I don't have to worry about every site I visit
I could go on and on

So, if you want to come to a Mac site and extol all of the virtues of a PC that runs 0-60 in 1.8 seconds and gets 273 miles per gallon... so be it... but the bottom line is.. it is a PC and runs VISTA

Don't want it
Don't need it

If I did... I would buy one and not complain about the Mac not doing this or that... I would just get it

Woof, Woof – Dawg

 

[redwarrior]

it is a PC and runs VISTA

Don't want it
Don't need it
Woof, Woof – Dawg

Can't argue with that. But I'm sure some will try. And we'll continue to be amused.

 

[GGJstudios]

Look, I can afford to buy any notebook I want...

I agree! I'm not a "fan boy" or any other kind of "boy". I bought a MBP because it works. It works without having to monkey around with antivirus, the Windows Registry, bloated, slow software, having 30+% of available processing power devoured by AV and OS overhead, etc. The MBP also happens to be a good-looking, well-designed, highly portable notebook with great battery life and an elegant, efficient, highly-useable operating system. And yes, there ARE some of us who use a notebook computer without it being plugged in.... that's what they're designed for! If they were "designed to be plugged in" all the time, manufacturers wouldn't be spending millions trying to develop smaller, lighter batteries that last hours and hours.

... and able to bend steel with it's mouse...

Haven't you seen the new Logitech YX Steelbender Bluetooth series?

 

[KingYaba]

mate it's the same price as the high end MacBook pro, and no the battery life isn't half bad actually.

These brain dead fanboys are getting old, fast.

Yes and that's why I don't own a 17" Macbook Pro. Brain dead? I think not. I like cash in my wallet. I could go on explaining the errors in your post but it's really not worth it.

 

[MacDawg]

The basic argument here is from two different world views...
all fanboy talk aside

The PC world only talks about "hardware"... it all about bigger, faster, more Megahertz and Gigabytes, VRAM, video cards, gaming power, slots, ports, etc. and if you don't have the biggest, baddest, upgradeable MFing box.. you are a brain dead fanboy

The Apple world talks about "OS"... OSX to be exact. Stability, security, functionality, integration, elegance, and oh, btw, it runs on a pretty d**m good looking box with plenty of punch that will do everything I need

Look at it this way... I can have tricked out Mustang with a 600 horse engine, with headers, dual carbs, racing gear ratio, back seat full of the latest dolby surround sound speakers... (you get the point)... but the speed limit is 55 and all I really do is burn rubber between red lights and hope everybody looks at my bad ass MFing machine before I have to take in to do another tune up on it

OR... I can get in my F150 4X4 Lariat with leather seats, a sun roof and a towing package and actually haul some stuff around and do some work

But, but, but... look at the badass specs!
But, but, but... look at the size of that HD!
But, but, but... look at the video card
But, but, but... look at the games!! Crysis! WoW! Etc.


Yeah... I drive the F150... I don't play games

Woof, Woof – Dawg

 

[CWallace]

this is a beast of a notebook, that puts the MBP to shame...

That is part of the problem. How many people are going to want a 10+ pound MacBook Pro that, with accessories, will weigh 15+ pounds on their shoulder?

(A)nd YES, they do target the same crowd! the crowd looking for big (15/17") high-powered workstation notebooks.

A true workstation notebook, like this Lenovo, is aimed at a very different crowd then a MacBook Pro - or even a Lenovo ThinkPad W500.

And the majority of the applications those folks run on those workstation notebooks are not available under OS X. So what we end up is with a large, heavy MacBook Pro that spends the majority of it's time running Windows under Boot Camp.

 

[tip]

Who really cares if it's ugly? Laptops are not fashion accessories. Reminds me of the recent MBP case redesign threads/whining.

I think it's great that Lenovo is pushing the boundaries on high-end laptops. Still too pricey for my budget, but hopefully we'll see some competition on the mid to low end market.

 

[sushi]

Look, I can afford to buy any notebook I want
But lets be real, this is after all a Mac site, what do you expect?

Same here. In fact I was going for a loaded 17 inch, but a buddy of mine convinced me to go with a 15. Glad I did due to my work/travel use.

I don't have to download an update every 3 days for security
I don't have to update my AVG every day
I don't have to update my Defender every day
I don't have to use all that horsepower to scan in the background all day
I don't have to worry about everything sent to me in email
I don't have to worry about every site I visit
I could go on and on

You are such a party poop!

It's so much fun to do these things!

BTW, running Windows XP or Vista via VMware or Parallels makes it nice to be able to do all these things while your Mac just keeps plugging along.

 

[iMacmatician]

Looks good for the proffesional who cant accept he needs a Desktop.

Maybe he works in two different places and so can't have a desktop.

I'm sure that the new MBP when they come out will have some extra goodies, why wouldn't they.

Glass trackpad…

Also consider that Apple is looking in different directions (possibly with new chipsets and the like) and has a tendency to not follow the mainstream to a T. Should be interesting to see what they come out with.

I don't think the MacBook Pro has to be thick to give additional unique performance. Similarly to when the Santa Rosa chipset was overclocked from 800FSB to 1067FSB, the Montevina chipset could be overclocked from 1067FSB to 1333FSB. Also, Apple could use custom low-clocked quad-cores, which would outperform dual-cores in multithreaded tasks, as well as an additional RAM slot for triple-channel RAM (50% more bandwidth). Apple could offer a faster GPU than what they do now, and have it so that when it's on 100%, the CPU can only max out at 50%, and vice versa.