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What do you think of this product? Users seem to like it. I don’t think it has Dolby Atmos but it seems to be able to achieve similar effects.

https://us.creative.com/p/speakers/sound-blasterx-katana

If we put X1E on mstand so that the speakers don’t get close to the table, will the sound effect be better if I add the katana or Dolby Atmos speakers?

I don't know. I never really thought about a soundbar for a laptop as soundbars go, that is a very low price. It does seem to get good reviews, but the dings on it from a review I just read was that the Subwoofer can't keep up at higher volumes and Audio doesn't sound as wide or directional as 2+ discreet speakers.

I guess it would depend on what kind of volume you are looking for and how much separation is enough.
 
I don't know. I never really thought about a soundbar for a laptop as soundbars go, that is a very low price. It does seem to get good reviews, but the dings on it from a review I just read was that the Subwoofer can't keep up at higher volumes and Audio doesn't sound as wide or directional as 2+ discreet speakers.

I guess it would depend on what kind of volume you are looking for and how much separation is enough.

I use it in a small bedroom. I cannot turn it in so loud as my neighbors will complain.
 
Sounds like you would never push it to the point where you notice the shortcoming of the subwoofer then. Your neighbor will probably be pounding on your door before you do :)

Do you recommend getting the Katana which is not really Atmos soundbar, a more expensive sony/samsung soundbar or an Atmos compatible headphone. One problem is headphone is that having sound source very close to the hears may cause damage in the ear.
 
Do you recommend getting the Katana which is not really Atmos soundbar, a more expensive sony/samsung soundbar or an Atmos compatible headphone. One problem is headphone is that having sound source very close to the hears may cause damage in the ear.

I am probably not the best source for an answer on that. I don't really see an under monitor soundbar fitting into my needs with a laptop and I am not much of a gamer. So for me, the headphones work. :)

I really don't know about that product at all and not sure
 
If I want to add external soundbar to the X1E that has Dolby Atmos, is it better to also use soundbar that is compatibility with Dolby Atmos?

What? A soundbar? Post pics when you do. Never heard of such a thing.
 
Hi, do other X1E users here still have jet engine like noisy fan issue? It has been about 10 days since I got the machine. I updated the BIOS to 1.12 and updated all the drivers via Lenovo Vintage. I still need more testings but it seems to me that I get very noisy fan more often when connecting the X1E to a 4K TV.

Case 1: Just for today, I had the laptop not connecting to the 4K TV most of the time. Jet engine like noisy fan happened once when I rebooted the machine, once when I was surfing the web (no video on the site), once when I was watching youtube and once idling. All happened in about five hours. Is this normal?

Case 2: However, for four times, after I connected the laptop to the 4K TV (either via HDMI 2.0 or USB-C to HDMI adapter), even without playing youtube video or doing anything, within about 15-20 seconds, I heard jet engine-like noisy fan. It took about two minutes for the laptop to become silent again. I have five tabs open under MS Edge. I just clicked on the tabs and within a minute, jet engine like noisy fan started again. In the next test, after the laptop became silent. Even without doing anything, it suddenly became very noisy again. This dos not look normal to me.

Anybody know of a way to fix this issue? Thanks.
 
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Hi, do other X1E users here still have jet engine like noisy fan issue? It has been about 10 days since I got the machine. I updated the BIOS to 1.12 and updated all the drivers via Lenovo Vintage. I still need more testings but it seems to me that I get very noisy fan more often when connecting the X1E to a 4K TV.

Case 1: Just for today, I had the laptop not connecting to the 4K TV most of the time. Jet engine like noisy fan happened once when I rebooted the machine, once when I was surfing the web (no video on the site), once when I was watching youtube and once idling. Is this normal?

Case 2: However, for four times, after I connected the laptop to the 4K TV (either via HDMI 2.0 or USB-C to HDMI adapter), even without playing youtube video or doing anything, within about 15-20 seconds, I heard jet engine-like noisy fan. It took about two minutes for the laptop to become silent again. I have five tabs open under MS Edge. I just clicked on the tabs and within a minute, jet engine like noisy fan started again. In the next test, after the laptop became silent. Even without doing anything, it suddenly became very noisy again. This dos not look normal to me.

Anybody know of a way to fix this issue? Thanks.

Apple and Lenovo took different approaches to cooling their laptops. Apple opted to run a bit hotter with the trade-off being a quieter laptop. Lenovo chose to be more aggressive with the cooling, but at the cost of being more noisy.

There are a couple solutions to this. One I believe you will find that if you move the power slider from Best Performance to Better Performance, you will hear a lot less fan and the CPU will still ramp up when it is needed.

Second you could download a fan controller app such as Speed Fan, Notebook Fan Control, Argus Monitor, TPFan Control or the like. Speed Fan is the most advanced of the set, but in some ways also the most annoying since it constantly asks for Admin permissions. But you can monitor temps, set min and max fans speeds and set a cooling scheme that works better for you.

I personally don’t find the fans offensive, certainly quiet compared to what I have heard from Razer Blade. MacBook Pro fans, once you get them maxed are pretty high pitched and annoying as well. But I used the better performance slider most of the time and it works ok for me. You may wish to tweet it further to work for you.

If you really want a laptop with better cooling and less fan noise, the solution @Queen6 chose is ultimately the better route.
 
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Apple and Lenovo took different approaches to cooling their laptops. Apple opted to run a bit hotter with the trade-off being a quieter laptop. Lenovo chose to be more aggressive with the cooling, but at the cost of being more noisy.

There are a couple solutions to this. One I believe you will find that if you move the power slider from Best Performance to Better Performance, you will hear a lot less fan and the CPU will still ramp up when it is needed.

Second you could download a fan controller app such as Speed Fan, Notebook Fan Control, Argus Monitor, TPFan Control or the like. Speed Fan is the most advanced of the set, but in some ways also the most annoying since it constantly asks for Admin permissions. But you can monitor temps, set min and max fans speeds and set a cooling scheme that works better for you.

I personally don’t find the fans offensive, certainly quiet compared to what I have heard from Razer Blade. MacBook Pro fans, once you get them maxed are pretty high pitched and annoying as well. But I used the better performance slider most of the time and it works ok for me. You may wish to tweet it further to work for you.

If you really want a laptop with better cooling and less fan noise, the solution @Queen6 chose is ultimately the better route.
What solution did he post?
 
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Apple and Lenovo took different approaches to cooling their laptops. Apple opted to run a bit hotter with the trade-off being a quieter laptop. Lenovo chose to be more aggressive with the cooling, but at the cost of being more noisy.

There are a couple solutions to this. One I believe you will find that if you move the power slider from Best Performance to Better Performance, you will hear a lot less fan and the CPU will still ramp up when it is needed.

Second you could download a fan controller app such as Speed Fan, Notebook Fan Control, Argus Monitor, TPFan Control or the like. Speed Fan is the most advanced of the set, but in some ways also the most annoying since it constantly asks for Admin permissions. But you can monitor temps, set min and max fans speeds and set a cooling scheme that works better for you.

I personally don’t find the fans offensive, certainly quiet compared to what I have heard from Razer Blade. MacBook Pro fans, once you get them maxed are pretty high pitched and annoying as well. But I used the better performance slider most of the time and it works ok for me. You may wish to tweet it further to work for you.

If you really want a laptop with better cooling and less fan noise, the solution @Queen6 chose is ultimately the better route.

Thanks. Do you have the issue I mentioned? I wonder how many X1E users are affected.

The problem is that even I set the performance to the left-most (best battery setting), I still have this issue.

Among the fan controller app you mention, is there a good set of parameters that I should follow? Will I damage the laptop if I made a mistake in setting the values incorrectly?
 
Thanks. Do you have the issue I mentioned? I wonder how many X1E users are affected.

The problem is that even I set the performance to the left-most (best battery setting), I still have this issue.

Among the fan controller app you mention, is there a good set of parameters that I should follow? Will I damage the laptop if I made a mistake in setting the values incorrectly?

I don't know that I do. I mean the fans come on earlier and faster than they did with the 2018 MacBook Pro, but they aren't on constantly or anything. But I haven't attempted to connect it to a 4K TV either.

They are heavier and actually louder. How are they quieter?

That has not been my experience. Heavier, absolutely. Thicker, absolutely. But they have run cooler due to the larger chasis and move more air more quietly and efficiently, due to the larger fans and better heat pipes, making them overall quieter. But YMMV depending on the laptop.
 
I don't know that I do. I mean the fans come on earlier and faster than they did with the 2018 MacBook Pro, but they aren't on constantly or anything. But I haven't attempted to connect it to a 4K TV either.



That has not been my experience. Heavier, absolutely. Thicker, absolutely. But they have run cooler due to the larger chasis and move more air more quietly and efficiently, due to the larger fans and better heat pipes, making them overall quieter. But YMMV depending on the laptop.

Sorry I forgot to mention in Post #259 that those rare noisy fan issues described in Case 1 happened within about 5 hours. So, not very often. However, once I connected the laptop to the 4K TV, noisy fan happened every few minutes. That is too often to be acceptable.
 
Sorry I forgot to mention in Post #259 that those rare noisy fan issues described in Case 1 happened within about 5 hours. So, not very often. However, once I connected the laptop to the 4K TV, noisy fan happened every few minutes. That is too often to be acceptable.

I will try to connect mine to a 4K TV tomorrow and see what result I get. You have the power slider all the way to the better battery mode when you connect it? Or did I misunderstand that?
[doublepost=1540088096][/doublepost]Actually, just now hooked it to my 4K TV. The fan is running a bit in Best Performance Mode. Nothing too annoying. Certainly, nothing I would describe as even remotely close to "jet engine."

Ran a 4K movie for a while. Same. Steady fan noise, but no different than the MBP when connected to the TV. Obviously, I can't hear yours, but if you opted for in-home service, you could always get a tech to come out and listen and see if the amount of fan noise is unusual.
 
I will try to connect mine to a 4K TV tomorrow and see what result I get. You have the power slider all the way to the better battery mode when you connect it? Or did I misunderstand that?
[doublepost=1540088096][/doublepost]Actually, just now hooked it to my 4K TV. The fan is running a bit in Best Performance Mode. Nothing too annoying. Certainly, nothing I would describe as even remotely close to "jet engine."

Ran a 4K movie for a while. Same. Steady fan noise, but no different than the MBP when connected to the TV. Obviously, I can't hear yours, but if you opted for in-home service, you could always get a tech to come out and listen and see if the amount of fan noise is unusual.

Thanks. Yes, power slider all the way to better battery mode. Strangely speaking when it became noisy, sometimes moving it to highest performance lowered the fan noise!
 
They are heavier and actually louder. How are they quieter?

17.3" i7 8750H, 32Gb @ 2666, 1070 GTX, NVME SSD & SSHD, sub 3Kg. Has silent mode and even under load not offensive. The Silent mode (TDP down) allows the notebook to be completely silent under basic productivity tasks, even then it's still a very powerful solution. Literally at the push of a button you can flip it to this...

Six cores @ 3.9GHz full sustained Turbo Boost - Want a more powerful Mac, you'll need a iMac Pro
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17.3" i7 8750H, 32Gb @ 2666, 1070 GTX, NVME SSD & SSHD, sub 3Kg. Has silent mode and even under load not offensive. The Silent mode (TDP down) allows the notebook to be completely silent under basic productivity tasks, even then it's still a very powerful solution. Literally at the push of a button you can flip it to this...

Six cores @ 3.9GHz full sustained Turbo Boost - Want a more powerful Mac, you'll need a iMac Pro
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3kg.. Some desktops custom builds are around that weight lol you may as well use a desktop tbh
 
3kg.. Some desktops custom builds are around that weight lol you may as well use a desktop tbh

Desktop's don't as a rule play well with air travel, with the display being a bit of a problem. My current primary is a massive 1Kg heavier than the current 15" MBP, maybe that's a tad too much for you, LOL, :rolleyes:

Last time I checked a full desktop as in tower Workstation is likely to be in the region of 20Kg upwards for the computer in isolation. Like I've stated if you want a Mac to outperform this portable solution you need to ask Jony Ive to design a nice little travel bag for the iMac Pro. You can take that as being a little funny or a sad reflection of the current Mac line up.

If the Mac was as superior as it was once I'd be replying on one as that's what "pays the bills" simple as that.

Doors always open :p
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Waiting for Apple, not holding breath anytime soon :p

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17.3" i7 8750H, 32Gb @ 2666, 1070 GTX, NVME SSD & SSHD, sub 3Kg. Has silent mode and even under load not offensive. The Silent mode (TDP down) allows the notebook to be completely silent under basic productivity tasks, even then it's still a very powerful solution. Literally at the push of a button you can flip it to this...

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Can I have some kind of silent mode through software in X1 Extreme. Everything on this machine is fine except for the noisy fan (especially when connected to 4K TV).
 
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Can I have some kind of silent mode through software in X1 Extreme. Everything on this machine is fine except for the noisy fan (especially when connected to 4K TV).
What are the temps? The fans are on for a reason, whileI can empathize, because the Razer had an aggressive fan setup and I preferred a quieter machine. they were running for a reason, i.e., cooling the laptop. I found even with my MBP, that using an external monitor, the temps increase.

If you set the cooling to passive in the power setting and the fans are still on, then the temps may be too high for passive cooling.
 
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What are the temps? The fans are on for a reason, whileI can empathize, because the Razer had an aggressive fan setup and I preferred a quieter machine. they were running for a reason, i.e., cooling the laptop. I found even with my MBP, that using an external monitor, the temps increase.

If you set the cooling to passive in the power setting and the fans are still on, then the temps may be too high for passive cooling.

What is a good way to check the temperature?
 
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