Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
The one thing I'm finding a little irksome is the size of the laptop. What I mean by that is the dimensions of the laptop (14.24 x 9.67 x .074) is a bit larger then other 15" laptops and my existing laptop bag has an internal dimensions of 14.25 - a snug fit to say the least. I've been looking at Waterfield designs for a replacement but it seems many of the bags they have use 14.25 (or smaller). I've had my current bag for near on 9 years, so its time for a replacement.

I'm a fan of waterfield designs and love the waxed canvas look, they have a couple that barely fit (14.25 internal size) and I'm contemplating those.

I also see that nutsac has a bag called sac daddy that will fit the 15" laptop but there's no padded compartment, so I'll need to pick up a sleeve for protection.
upload_2019-1-27_7-4-39.png


I've long complained about apple's obsession with thinness, but in this case I do wish that Lenovo had gave me an extra tenth of an inch to work with :)
 
Are the owners of the X1E here getting the i7 versions? Has anyone tried the i5 version? I figure the i5 would have less issues with heat/fan noise.
 
Are the owners of the X1E here getting the i7 versions? Has anyone tried the i5 version? I figure the i5 would have less issues with heat/fan noise.

Mine has the i7-8850H and I’m not having any issues with heat and fan noise. YMMV

I also see that nutsac has a bag called sac daddy that will fit the 15" laptop but there's no padded compartment, so I'll need to pick up a sleeve for protection.
View attachment 818406

LOL those are quite the product names. I can confirm that this sleeve fits: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071FG82Y6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_6ZGtCbQ0TWAMC
 
As an Amazon Associate, MacRumors earns a commission from qualifying purchases made through links in this post.
The one thing I'm finding a little irksome is the size of the laptop. What I mean by that is the dimensions of the laptop (14.24 x 9.67 x .074) is a bit larger then other 15" laptops and my existing laptop bag has an internal dimensions of 14.25 - a snug fit to say the least. I've been looking at Waterfield designs for a replacement but it seems many of the bags they have use 14.25 (or smaller). I've had my current bag for near on 9 years, so its time for a replacement.

I'm a fan of waterfield designs and love the waxed canvas look, they have a couple that barely fit (14.25 internal size) and I'm contemplating those.

I also see that nutsac has a bag called sac daddy that will fit the 15" laptop but there's no padded compartment, so I'll need to pick up a sleeve for protection.
View attachment 818406

I've long complained about apple's obsession with thinness, but in this case I do wish that Lenovo had gave me an extra tenth of an inch to work with :)

Buffalo Jackson Trading Company has a Dakota Waxed Military Canvas Messenger Bag that I believe will fit the X1 Extreme. I was looking at one myself. The quality looks top notch, but they are a little pricey and also do not appear to have any real padding in the laptop compartment.

Dakota_Waxed_Canvas_Messenger_Bag_Field_Khaki_With_Chestnut_Brown_1_2000x.jpg


I have an old Tom Bhin bag I have had about a decade. It still looks great. I am more bored with it than anything :)

military-canvas-messenger-bag-dakota-field-tan
 
  • Like
Reactions: maflynn
I think this was missed here but i had a question about sleep mode on these laptops.

Does the laptop sleep just like a macbook pro ie it goes to sleep, saves your work and as soon as u open the lid or press a key it immedietly launches the lock screen(no boot screen etc)

On my dell xps 13 its sleep mode does that BUT it drains the battery considerably! and also sometimes even spins the fans(wtf) Its as if its sleep mode just blanks the screen...

While hibernate mode basically saves your current stuff but hibernates it and it requires a cold start sort of where it needs to boot itself for 10 seconds or so(load windows logo screen)
 
Wow that looks nice.

As you can see the Muy Grande is 16.5 x 11.5 x .4
upload_2019-1-27_17-58-13.png


Now compare that with Buffalo Jackson who's dimensions are 18 x 13 x 5 (The 18" includes the side pockets)

upload_2019-1-27_17-58-46.png


So while the Buffalo Jackson is a few inches taller and longer it does look nicer. the Muy Grande has a dedicated laptop pocket unlike the smaller one I mentioned earlier. Of course the Muy Grande is is 289, and so that's very pricey as well
 
Wow that looks nice.

As you can see the Muy Grande is 16.5 x 11.5 x .4
View attachment 818533

Now compare that with Buffalo Jackson who's dimensions are 18 x 13 x 5 (The 18" includes the side pockets)

View attachment 818534

So while the Buffalo Jackson is a few inches taller and longer it does look nicer. the Muy Grande has a dedicated laptop pocket unlike the smaller one I mentioned earlier. Of course the Muy Grande is is 289, and so that's very pricey as well

At that point you are within $30 of each other with the Buffalo Jackson @ $259. A lot of money, but I find quality bags like that tend last and last so the cost over time of ownership is really quite low.
[doublepost=1548636943][/doublepost]
I think this was missed here but i had a question about sleep mode on these laptops.

Does the laptop sleep just like a macbook pro ie it goes to sleep, saves your work and as soon as u open the lid or press a key it immedietly launches the lock screen(no boot screen etc)

On my dell xps 13 its sleep mode does that BUT it drains the battery considerably! and also sometimes even spins the fans(wtf) Its as if its sleep mode just blanks the screen...

While hibernate mode basically saves your current stuff but hibernates it and it requires a cold start sort of where it needs to boot itself for 10 seconds or so(load windows logo screen)

I am not sure if I am answering your question correctly, but the laptop sleeps similar to the MacBook Pro as you describe, with a small battery drain over time. My SP5 can go days without draining the battery. Not sure what was going on with your Dell, but it shouldn't be significant and the fans should not spin up.

Of course, you can also configure the lid close and power button actions individually for both plugged in and battery to do any one of 4 things, "nothing," "sleep," "hibernate" or "shut down."
 
Last edited:
At that point you are within $30 of each other with the Buffalo Jackson @ $259. A lot of money, but I find quality bags like that tend last and last so the cost over time of ownership is really quite low.
[doublepost=1548636943][/doublepost]

I am not sure if I am answering your question correctly, but the laptop sleeps similar to the MacBook Pro as you describe, with a small battery drain over time. My SP5 can go days without draining the battery. Not sure what was going on with your Dell, but it shouldn't be significant and the fans should not spin up.

Of course, you can also configure the lid close and power button actions individually for both plugged in and battery to do any one of 4 things, "nothing," "sleep," "hibernate" or "shut down."
I've heard the term s3 and some new adaptive sleep mode on Windows?
[doublepost=1548666363][/doublepost]edit: the x1 carbon had the same issues as the dell https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkP...n-Battery-drain-in-sleep/td-p/4075415/page/30

but lenova enables s3 again in bios
 
I've heard the term s3 and some new adaptive sleep mode on Windows?
[doublepost=1548666363][/doublepost]edit: the x1 carbon had the same issues as the dell https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkP...n-Battery-drain-in-sleep/td-p/4075415/page/30

but lenova enables s3 again in bios


Gotcha. S3 is Standby or Save to Ram: S3 (Standby) The CPU does not have any power; The RAM regenerates at minimum; the power supply unit is in mode of reduced power. This mode is also called “Save to RAM”.
 
Partly for giggles, and partly to get iMessage accessible on my computer, I successfully installed High Sierra in vmware. I first tried VirtualBox and while successful, I ran into an issue. It seems iMessage does some sort of hardware check and/or serial number validation. Its odd because I didn't run into any other iCloud problem, only messages. While a solution may be available for virtualbox, the steps I found were fairly straightforward for vmware. Involved and too time, but it was spelled out plain enough that I could follow along :)

After some work in getting everything install and configured, I now have macOS running in vmware. I'm not sure I want to keep it, but its there for now. Performance seems decent but I just finished up getting imessage and I need to eat dinner.
upload_2019-2-1_17-38-36.png
 
Partly for giggles, and partly to get iMessage accessible on my computer, I successfully installed High Sierra in vmware. I first tried VirtualBox and while successful, I ran into an issue. It seems iMessage does some sort of hardware check and/or serial number validation. Its odd because I didn't run into any other iCloud problem, only messages. While a solution may be available for virtualbox, the steps I found were fairly straightforward for vmware. Involved and too time, but it was spelled out plain enough that I could follow along :)

After some work in getting everything install and configured, I now have macOS running in vmware. I'm not sure I want to keep it, but its there for now. Performance seems decent but I just finished up getting imessage and I need to eat dinner.
View attachment 819474
Huh, I didn’t know that was possible. I have just one Mac app I would like to run on my PC... I might give this a go! Is it difficult?
 
Huh, I didn’t know that was possible. I have just one Mac app I would like to run on my PC... I might give this a go! Is it difficult?
Not terribly
virtualbox seemed a bit easier but I ran into issues with the aforementioned imessage. Performance was a bit slower then I would prefer.
Vmware Workstation was better all around. While pricier you can find cheaper licenses on amazon and other places. You'll need to run an unlocker application before starting anything - by default the macOS operating system isn't available until then. You create the VM, make a few changes to the vmx (very minor and quite easy) and then install macOS. PM me and I'll give you the details.

I stayed away from Mojave, it gave me the most headaches and in one case refused to boot up.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jrichards1408
First impressions

Appearance/build quality:

Not the kind to take a microscope to the products I purchase, but this time I wanted to make sure that there was no exterior cosmetic damage. The X1 was in perfect condition, so absolutely no complaints with the exterior appearance. I do see a need for a wipe down from time to time for the fingerprints, but that’s no big deal since I’ve done that with all my electronics. Flex to the screen is so very minimal when touching it. But I don’t touch it, so not to worry about it.

Boot-up:

Initial boot up time was OK, about 14 seconds the first day, and about 10 seconds 2nd day. I don’t have my computer set to sleep or hibernate, and the power setting is on high performance. I’ve heard issues using sleep or hibernate, so I just use the power button to power on. The short delay in booting up is not an issue for me.

Screen:

4K is nice to look at and brightness is more than adequate indoors. I turned down the brightness slightly for my needs. I don’t use my computer outdoors. There is some glare from an overhead light, but not irritating. No dead or stuck pixels ;) Screen is larger than expected but good on the aging eyes. 14 inch would be the sweet spot for some, but this is nice and sharp.

Bloatware:

Not too many bloatware apps and they were very easy to uninstall without doing a clean install of windows. Did not find candy crush, but I did find solitaire.

Fan noise:

Fan noise is noticeable on high-performance setting, but not irritating to my ears and it’s not on all the time either. The whooshing sound subsides after a short period time and I don’t notice it anymore unless I’m using task that needs the fan to cool down the CPU/GPU.

I don’t understand some saying it sounds like a jet engine. I know what a jet engine sounds like and this is nowhere even close to being one. Just a soft whooshing sound. Of course others might be more sensitive.

Keyboard:

What can I say, it’s up Lenovo keyboard and very pleasant to use. All the keys worked as opposed to one reviewer that said one of his keys did not.

Up dates:

Updates were done without any hiccups.

Windows:

I had windows for a few years with Windows 7 and XP, Vista and now I’m going to have to re-learn windows again. A whole lot of options at my disposal that I didn’t have with macOS. This should be interesting.

I made 2 USB recovery drives just in case.

Installed - Windows Office + BitDefender

C53BA33B-EDDC-4396-B842-346D7B286B9D.jpeg
 
Last edited:
Not terribly
virtualbox seemed a bit easier but I ran into issues with the aforementioned imessage. Performance was a bit slower then I would prefer.
Vmware Workstation was better all around. While pricier you can find cheaper licenses on amazon and other places. You'll need to run an unlocker application before starting anything - by default the macOS operating system isn't available until then. You create the VM, make a few changes to the vmx (very minor and quite easy) and then install macOS. PM me and I'll give you the details.

I stayed away from Mojave, it gave me the most headaches and in one case refused to boot up.

Thanks, I may drop you a line later in the week!
 
First impressions

Appearance/build quality:

Not the kind to take a microscope to the products I purchase, but this time I wanted to make sure that there was no exterior cosmetic damage. The X1 was in perfect condition, so absolutely no complaints with the exterior appearance. I do see a need for a wipe down from time to time for the fingerprints, but that’s no big deal since I’ve done that with all my electronics. Flex to the screen is so very minimal when touching it. But I don’t touch it, so not to worry about it.

Boot-up:

Initial boot up time was OK, about 14 seconds the first day, and about 10 seconds 2nd day. I don’t have my computer set to sleep or hibernate, and the power setting is on high performance. I’ve heard issues using sleep or hibernate, so I just use the power button to power on. The short delay in booting up is not an issue for me.

Screen:

4K is nice to look at and brightness is more than adequate indoors. I turned down the brightness slightly for my needs. I don’t use my computer outdoors. There is some glare from an overhead light, but not irritating. No dead or stuck pixels ;) Screen is larger than expected but good on the aging eyes. 14 inch would be the sweet spot for some, but this is nice and sharp.

Bloatware:

Not too many bloatware apps and they were very easy to uninstall without doing a clean install of windows. Did not find candy crush, but I did find solitaire.

Fan noise:

Fan noise is noticeable on high-performance setting, but not irritating to my ears and it’s not on all the time either. The whooshing sound subsides after a short period time and I don’t notice it anymore unless I’m using task that needs the fan to cool down the CPU/GPU

Keyboard:

What can I say, it’s up Lenovo keyboard and very pleasant to use. All the keys worked as opposed to one reviewer that said one of his keys did not.

Up dates:

Updates were done without any hiccups.

Windows:

I had windows for a few years with Windows 7 and XP, Vista and now I’m going to have to re-learn windows again. A whole lot of options at my disposal that I didn’t have with macOS. This should be interesting.

I made 2 USB recovery drives just in case.

View attachment 819521
Great review
 
  • Like
Reactions: SDColorado
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.