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Leopard Build 9a410 Seeded

Little changes may mean it's almost as close as it's going to get before we see the top secret features.

I can't wait for Q&A time during the quarterly conference call on Wednesday...some 'splaining needs to be done on what "soon" meant for iLife & iWork to be released.

NAB will not see anything new with Leopard. It's likely that the pro apps to be released will be running on Leopard and may characterize some traits of the OS, but nothing 'top secret' or what we didn't see coming.

-=|Mgkwho
 
Peace said:
Exactly how is this obvious ?
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Simple, any feature has to be tested...we're almost at the end of April for a release date in June and nothing has come up. Let's get real, we might get a thing or two like iChat connectivity, under-the-hood speedups and TimeMachine/iLife improvements...nothing else.
 
BRLawyer said:
Simple, any feature has to be tested...we're almost at the end of April for a release date in June and nothing has come up. Let's get real, we might get a thing or two like iChat connectivity, under-the-hood speedups and TimeMachine/iLife improvements...nothing else.
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Let's get real, the OS doesn't need developer testing for parts that have nothing to do with developers. You admit that 'a thing or two' might come change...which obviously wouldn't be tested by developers. Where's the line?

Are you actually claiming that in Apple's history they've released every single bit of the OS for testing months before its release?

-=|Mgkwho
 
BRLawyer said:
Simple, any feature has to be tested...we're almost at the end of April for a release date in June and nothing has come up. Let's get real, we might get a thing or two like iChat connectivity, under-the-hood speedups and TimeMachine/iLife improvements...nothing else.
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What time zone are you in. It is barely Mid April.
 
Just finished installing the new seed, haven't had much of a change to play with it yet... but one change leaps out at me. No, I am not making this up...

UNIFIED THEME
NO MORE BRUSHED METAL

Every application I have fired up so far has the same theme. Safari, Finder, Mail, iCal, everything. Not a hint of brushed metal anywhere. It looks to be the same theme as iTunes 7 is currently using under Tiger, so just imagine all of your apps looking like that.

On a sadder note, ZFS is still not working in this seed.
 
Peace said:
Well this kind of blows my long standing theory of seeing Leopard's "secret features" at NAB..No way Apple is going to seed this build then 3 days later show off it's secret features..
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Why? If they are really holding back, there is no need to seed it right after showing it. Show it and release the seed 2 weeks after that. What's the problem?
 
Egomaniac said:
Just finished installing the new seed, haven't had much of a change to play with it yet... but one change leaps out at me. No, I am not making this up...

UNIFIED THEME
NO MORE BRUSHED METAL

Every application I have fired up so far has the same theme. Safari, Finder, Mail, iCal, everything. Not a hint of brushed metal anywhere. It looks to be the same theme as iTunes 7 is currently using under Tiger, so just imagine all of your apps looking like that.

On a sadder note, ZFS is still not working in this seed.
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Pics or it didn't happen :p
 
Egomaniac said:
Just finished installing the new seed, haven't had much of a change to play with it yet... but one change leaps out at me. No, I am not making this up...

UNIFIED THEME
NO MORE BRUSHED METAL

Every application I have fired up so far has the same theme. Safari, Finder, Mail, iCal, everything. Not a hint of brushed metal anywhere. It looks to be the same theme as iTunes 7 is currently using under Tiger, so just imagine all of your apps looking like that.

On a sadder note, ZFS is still not working in this seed.
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Well you probably have already broken your NDA by saying that so please post some pictures.
 
Egomaniac said:
Every application I have fired up so far has the same theme. Safari, Finder, Mail, iCal, everything. Not a hint of brushed metal anywhere. It looks to be the same theme as iTunes 7 is currently using under Tiger, so just imagine all of your apps looking like that.
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Screenshot?
 
Egomaniac said:
Just finished installing the new seed, haven't had much of a change to play with it yet... but one change leaps out at me. No, I am not making this up...

UNIFIED THEME
NO MORE BRUSHED METAL

Every application I have fired up so far has the same theme. Safari, Finder, Mail, iCal, everything. Not a hint of brushed metal anywhere. It looks to be the same theme as iTunes 7 is currently using under Tiger, so just imagine all of your apps looking like that.

On a sadder note, ZFS is still not working in this seed.
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Mmm...

IF THIS IS TRUE:

Are there changes to the scrollbars, checkboxes etc?
 
In other news, I played with Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic Edition today and its GUI is pretty flashy. I like it, and I'm not afraid to admit it. No transparency, though.

please don't hurt me

-=|Mgkwho
 
psychofreak said:
That would not help you see if what he is saying is true, as he could be using UNO :)
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Nah, UNO doesn't make everything look like iTunes 7, it makes everything Unified Aqua. Egomaniac specifically said " It looks to be the same theme as iTunes 7 is currently using under Tiger"

Everything looking like iTunes 7 would be an interesting screenshot since iTunes is that dull grey-blue smooth look instead of ultra shiny.

You'd think InsanelyMac would've mentioned the iTunes 7 theme thing.
 
screenshots

screenshots would be nice, but .... didn't I read something about screen capture not working in this release (perhaps they did THAT on purpose :) ), oh well out comes the camera, zoom in , click, download to iPhoto and post it :) Go on, I don't have Leopard, someone else has to do this :)
 
shrimpdesign said:
Nah, UNO doesn't make everything look like iTunes 7, it makes everything Unified Aqua. Egomaniac specifically said " It looks to be the same theme as iTunes 7 is currently using under Tiger"

Everything looking like iTunes 7 would be an interesting screenshot since iTunes is that dull grey-blue smooth look instead of ultra shiny.

You'd think InsanelyMac would've mentioned the iTunes 7 theme thing.
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They just did! :)


Oh by the way, I stand corrected, screencapture crashes on PPC versions, nothing about not working at all, so go on, screen shots already ;-)
 
Diatribe said:
There is at least one person on InsanelyMac mentioning this.
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Well, cool. That means either it's true, and iTunes 7 smooth-blue-grey is probably the future OS X UI, or both are lying about the UI.

The former seems more likely.
 
Im amazed at people thinking there wont be any extra features because they havent been tested or shown so far.

And get those screenshots up!
 
k2k koos said:
You nailed it there! This is exactly the way Steve Jobs operates Apple, each develop their own section, but non disclosure agreements everywhere, so no one is allowed to talk about what he-she is doing. This avoids the big picture to leak out. It has worked that way since the original Macintosh, most recently with the iPhone, and also software get's the same treatment.
For the same reason, dev versions are still buggy. I firmly believe that Leopard is closer to release, than everyone thinks. They may have a last few issues to work out, hence the seeds, but i bet that the known issues already have solutions. Still think it will be ADC before it's released, but it will be a great release, less buggy than Tiger was at it's birth.
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As someone might have already mentioned:
I'm almost willing to bet that the reason most of the critical parts of 10.5 seeds don't work is that apple has removed the updated code (aka hints) so that others can't go through it and see what new improvements might be included
which is why some of the seeds released seem almost rediculous considering how buggy they are
I'm willing to place a bet on an end-of-May release on Leopard, giving everyone (including devs) time to get their hands on it and look through it, used to it if you will, before WWDC so that Apple can give more details on new things that can be done with it.
Countdown to Leopard will start at beginning of May.
:)
 
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