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I get that Vision Pro has its fans, but even one million units sold is a drop in the bucket compared to the smartphone market.

That’s why I question when I hear people say it will replace the iPhone. Not anytime soon, if ever, imo.
That product definitely not I will never see that happening. It would have to be a brand new generation where it’s just like glasses then that would make sense
 
Great, but that's still the Vision PRO, not an Air. A POUND on your face is still not comfortable. Honestly this whole device is flawed. VR will always be niche. Smart glasses will be more mainstream.
I think at the present moment Apple understands the product is niche. But a niche product should have a niche killer app that ONLY a product like this can really take advantage of in a unique way. Right now they don’t have that app. I think Apple believes there is some as of yet unknown or not fully realized application that will be novel to use with a VR headset and Apple wants to be able to say they were there first or at least best. Only time will tell, but I don’t see wide adoption for VR in a long time unless things get so bad in the real world that droves of people will retreat to a virtual world
 
I feel like they should drop these naming schemes til they get a solid product they know how to market. like all the pro users are gonna be Mad if an air come out and its better
By the time this air version comes out, the original pro will probably be about three years old, so I would expect the air to be more powerful and overall better product.
 
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I want one for a TV replacement. If this new one gets rid of the stupid external battery and adds 120hz, it’s an amazing price for a superb tv watching experience
I’d recommend you try it. This is a device not meant to be worn while walking around so the external battery is not a big deal. As far as the refresh rates, the image on this device is as good as any flatscreen TV. I’ve seen out there.
 
Imagine trying to use a cpap machine and apple goggles at the same time.
George Lucas predicted exactly that

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Apple seems lost. It's as though VisionOS remains as Apples main focus, Apples primary passion.

Conversely Apple Intelligence seems to be a distraction, an annoyance that Apple would rather not be dealing with but must, due to public pressure and the role artificial intelligence currently plays in the tech sector.

Being relentlessly pushed out to the public, Apple has little choice but to compete. With far less success than any of its competitors, it will be interesting to see how Apple handles themselves going forward.

With massive resources and stacks of cash they have no excuses, only struggles being revealed in front of the world. It would be nice to see them emerge as equal competitors at a minimum.
 
Developers snubbed the Vision Pro because they are so anti-developer with their policies. It's sad - I really want one and will consider buying this but they need more killer apps to make it worthwhile.

Meta Quest 3 is killing it - and they even allow you to use games you bought from Steam!
 
Apple seems lost. It's as though VisionOS remains as Apples main focus, Apples primary passion.

Conversely Apple Intelligence seems to be a distraction, an annoyance that Apple would rather not be dealing with but must, due to public pressure and the role artificial intelligence currently plays in the tech sector.

Being relentlessly pushed out to the public, Apple has little choice but to compete. With far less success than any of its competitors, it will be interesting to see how Apple handles themselves going forward.

With massive resources and stacks of cash they have no excuses, only struggles being revealed in front of the world. It would be nice to see them emerge as equal competitors at a minimum.
The issue is that they need really good AI because it's a huge part of the vision OS experience. They fumbled the bag, but they're getting there now. Seemed to be a leadership issue between software and AI depts.
 
I’d recommend you try it. This is a device not meant to be worn while walking around so the external battery is not a big deal. As far as the refresh rates, the image on this device is as good as any flatscreen TV. I’ve seen out there.
I have tried it, and I do plan on sitting down whilst using it, and I still hate the battery pack.

Agreed, especially for this rumoured price, you can’t get a tv better than this

The other thing missing is 8K iTunes movies and tv shows, as well as immersive iTunes stuff. Hopefully this becomes a thing too, I have a big collection for this
 
I think still too expensive and limited uses.

If it could just work with PCs normally them I could see it capturing gaming and other (ahem) markets.

With the Apple reputation for usually good quality they might be able to make life difficult for the other VR headset makers.
 
I think the issue is even at $50 it won’t sell well.

Because nobody wants to strap a pair of goggles to their face to compute.

I say this as an owner of the vision pro.
It’s getting old. Whenever a new technology emerges, a lot of naysayers start to argue, why that specific technology is bound to fail. Often times they claim to speak for everybody and won’t accept any opinions deviating from their own, because they have the absolute knowledge.

Happened with Apple Watch, iPhone, AirPods, cellphones, home computers, TV in general, cars (100+ years ago it was combustion, nowadays it’s electric) etc. etc. History repeating.

Will everyone on this planet want to have such a device? Surely not.

But even the 1st gen found buyers in the 5- to 6-digit numbers (not even counting in competing products of other companies). That's definitely more than “nobody” already.

Now let the price get into more affordable regions and the technology mature (esp. size/weight/comfort and motion sickness) and more people will get interested. Be it for the atmosphere and convenience in games, movies, sport events or maybe even pr0n (which is known for its ability to mobilize masses, re: VHS vcr format).

I know that I’m interested for sure!

And I’m convinced that it will eventually be perfectly normal to wear some kind of smart glasses every day, even in public. The younger generation will then mock the older generation that still tries to hold tight to their familiar tech slabs a.k.a. Smartphone, just like some elderly people today prefer a dumb phone.

It will probably still take 10+ years for smart glasses being well established in the mass market, but the potential of that tech imho is huge!
 
$1750 is still too much for the present use cases.
Absolutely not the case. I use mine single day. It’s hard to put a price on having a movie theater experience anywhere you are. I have literally gone to the movies and said to myself “it doesn’t look as good as my Vision Pro at home”. And that isn’t worth the price of an iPhone? Yeah ok
 
I think at the present moment Apple understands the product is niche. But a niche product should have a niche killer app that ONLY a product like this can really take advantage of in a unique way. Right now they don’t have that app. I think Apple believes there is some as of yet unknown or not fully realized application that will be novel to use with a VR headset and Apple wants to be able to say they were there first or at least best. Only time will tell, but I don’t see wide adoption for VR in a long time unless things get so bad in the real world that droves of people will retreat to a virtual world
The killer app is a movie theater experience or having a Mac double wide screen anywhere you go. You DO know what a Vision Pro is right?
 
Think it will be priced at $1999. Waiting to see all the changes this one will have. Hopefully this model will be available worldwide.
 
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Apple seems lost. It's as though VisionOS remains as Apples main focus, Apples primary passion.

Conversely Apple Intelligence seems to be a distraction, an annoyance that Apple would rather not be dealing with but must, due to public pressure and the role artificial intelligence currently plays in the tech sector.

Being relentlessly pushed out to the public, Apple has little choice but to compete. With far less success than any of its competitors, it will be interesting to see how Apple handles themselves going forward.

With massive resources and stacks of cash they have no excuses, only struggles being revealed in front of the world. It would be nice to see them emerge as equal competitors at a minimum.
There is a rumor that Apple is going to release a new, improved version of Apple Vision the year after next. How do you get from there to "VisionOS remains as Apples main focus, Apples primary passion"?

As an AVP owner and daily user, I see this headline, and think "Yay, news, or at least vague rumors of possible future news about Vision OS devices. Sometimes it seems that Apple has totally forgotten it". You see the same headline and think it's the only thing Apple cares about.
 
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