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Lion Clean Install Requires Snow Leopard Disk?
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Why is this post getting voted down so badly? What am I missing? The answer is right there in black and white on the Apple website.
For crying out loud if this rumor IS true then what are people complaining about reinstalling the OS on computers purchased with Lion for? Every Mac comes with an installation disk. A new Mac will either come with SL for this purpose OR a restore disk.
Get your heads on straight people.
And both SL and Lion are pretty cheap. If you didn't get SL yet then you might as well now. It is still cheaper to get both at current prices than it used to be for an OS. Go visit the Apple Store and get it over with now.
Probably there are many files in SL Os that do not require upgrading when Lion is installed. I would guess that is why the upgrades are cheaper than they used to be.
Get your heads on straight people.
And both SL and Lion are pretty cheap. If you didn't get SL yet then you might as well now. It is still cheaper to get both at current prices than it used to be for an OS. Go visit the Apple Store and get it over with now.
Probably there are many files in SL Os that do not require upgrading when Lion is installed. I would guess that is why the upgrades are cheaper than they used to be.
What happens when your HDD dies? The replacement drive won't have anything on it so how does Lion get put on?
I call BS.
1. You can create a DVD install by burning the DMG file stored in Install Lion.app. When you boot the DVD, it can cleanly install to a new hard drive, no Snow Leopard required.
2. The email 'SJ' posted seems made-up. You cannot mis-spell the word 'Leopaard' on an iOS device unless you turn off that spellcheck feature.
1. You can create a DVD install by burning the DMG file stored in Install Lion.app. When you boot the DVD, it can cleanly install to a new hard drive, no Snow Leopard required.
2. The email 'SJ' posted seems made-up. You cannot mis-spell the word 'Leopaard' on an iOS device unless you turn off that spellcheck feature.
This makes no sense. Why on earth would they put Leopard or SL on the MAS if you have to have SL in the first place to get on it?
I would guess that for most home users the idea would be to restore from a Time Machine backup. For those that backup their data in other ways I've no doubt you can easily clone the restore partition.
For those that have no backup solution in place? I guess that remains to be seen. I find it unlikely that Apple hasn't considered this though.
According to this "rumor", you install SL and then Lion. Then you would restore from Time Machine.
Or you could have been making Clones of your drive all along and take ti all from there.
What exactly is the problem?
Go buy a SL disk if you don;t have one. And if you are buying a new computer it will have one or it will have a restore disk.
I've done this as well, and it works just like my ThinkPads.
They've had recovery partitions and the ability to burn discs for years.
There's certainly nothing "Magical and Revolutionary" about this practice.
It's so easy it's just laughable.
Step 1: Get a job.
Step 2: Buy a new mac.
Step 3: End.
I hear this line of reasoning all the time, and boy does it piss me off.
Because I should spend all the money I get from my job on Apple hardware, and not little things like saving, the kid's college fund, etc.
Yes, computers have a lifespan that in my opinion is about 4 years. So, folks try to plan purchases into their budget around that schedule. If a hard drive dies at year 3, most people are more likely to replace the hard drive rather than buy a new computer a full year early, especially when money is tight.
Over 25% of Apple's Mac OS X install base is still running Leopard or prior. Apple should really consider working better with those folks.
The problem is what used to be a 1-step installation process is now at least 3 steps:
1) Install Snow Leopard
2) Install updates
3) Download/install Lion from App store.
Need I mention that steps 1 and 2 can be very time consuming! This, all because Apple doesn't want to make physical media available to those who want it.
Very stupid.
While I agree the comment you are responding to is flippant, I find it amazing that people considering getting Lion have not upgraded to SL. It makes no sense. Get SL and use it for a while then Lion later if you don't want to get both at once. $29 for SL isn't gong to stretch the budget as much as a new hard drive would.
So i'm running 10.7.5 with related files/apps and all of a sudden my drive dies. I now have to go back and install an outdated OS (including all updates) first, before i can get back to the current one...and this is just fine and dandy with you two?
I guess only geeks like clean installs?
I for one am a geek, and I think that pulling out an old disc to wipe clean a computer, then install that OS, then wait until that's done and install another OS? You're dreaming.
I for one am a geek, and I think that pulling out an old disc to wipe clean a computer, then install that OS, then wait until that's done and install another OS? You're dreaming.
Honestly, I think all of this is pretty moot. Let's look at this pragmatically almost anyone in this thread has the technical knowhow and the foresight to create their own bootable Lion install DVD or USB drive. Anyone else will just go to the Apple Store.
Hope its a Gimmick
I hope this does not turn out to be true, otherwise it makes no sense to switch digital transferring of media, instead of physical options. It was supposed to make things easier and faster.
In other words it would just suck to install Snow Leo on a machine which is meant for the more advance Lion.
I hope this does not turn out to be true, otherwise it makes no sense to switch digital transferring of media, instead of physical options. It was supposed to make things easier and faster.
In other words it would just suck to install Snow Leo on a machine which is meant for the more advance Lion.
Actually no. The media that came with my computer is 10.5.3 "Leopard". Whenever I need to do a re-install, I do it from my 10.6 "Snow Leopard" disk.
Any time you are replacing a bad HD there is lost time. This is nothing new. How often do you intend to wipe your drive and go through this process?
This is just a rumor and if true it is no big deal at all.
Installation of SL is not as long as older OS's used to be. I recently did it to upgrade my HD. It took under 1 hour for SL. And then the combined updates took no time at all. The largest amount of time was getting data from time machine.
But of course this was expected. It was a day I just planned to not have my computer available. And again the reason for that was the time machine restoration. That would happen even if there was a Lion instal disk.
I try to do a fresh install about once a year on each of my systems (No matter the OS it is running.) It makes the systems run faster and decreases the odds that you have some malware running in the background.
What I want to know is, can you put the recovery partition on a flash drive instead of the boot drive? Recovery partitions are a great place for malware to hide. I would think the safest option would be to keep the recovery partition locked in a box and not connected to a computer until needed. If you could put it on one of the flash drives that have a read only switch, so much the better.