Fair point, but I find it hard to believe she didn’t hear about it at some point, perhaps not right away, and perhaps not in time to do anything about it. However, we’re talking about buying a house, not something trivial. If Lisa was part of their lives at that point, I find it hard to imagine that Laurene never heard anything about it. After all, she’s the one in the book who tells the psychiatrist she, Steve, and Lisa see that she and Steve are “just cold people”.
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Lisa Brennan-Jobs Discusses 'Coldness' and 'Moments of Joy' She Had With Steve Jobs in Upcoming Memoir 'Small Fry'
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Fair point, but I find it hard to believe she didn’t hear about it at some point, perhaps not right away, and perhaps not in time to do anything about it. However, we’re talking about buying a house, not something trivial. If Lisa was part of their lives at that point, I find it hard to imagine that Laurene never heard anything about it. After all, she’s the one in the book who tells the psychiatrist she, Steve, and Lisa see that she and Steve are “just cold people”.
Yeah, those sound like a lot more than a few small "mistakes"....
Long after the iPhone, Mac, and Apple itself are forgotten people will still talk about Steve Jobs. The legacy he left behind at Apple is near blameless, but the legacy he left with his family and those closest to him is troubling to say the least.
Woz's book was somewhat whitewashed, but you could still imagine the true Steve Jobs in that book. I have had "On the Firing Line" by Gil Amelio in my to-read list for some time, I wonder if it will speak to Jobs' personal life as well.
Woz's book was somewhat whitewashed, but you could still imagine the true Steve Jobs in that book. I have had "On the Firing Line" by Gil Amelio in my to-read list for some time, I wonder if it will speak to Jobs' personal life as well.
This is rich. It is very well known that Steve excelled at being a complete *******. For all his accomplishments and riches, I would rather be broke than be what he was. This is just a firsthand retelling of many stories we heard about. He was a horrible person without this book substaintiating previous comments from others.
I feel the same way. I like what Steve Jobs did, but the dude was a total ******* to everyone, including his children.
I love the internet, so many perfect people, I just wish there were more people like yourself in real life
Lol, for not buying a house for his ex??
Umm... I’ve never bought a house for my ex.
Have you bought a house for your ex??
You sure pick odd reasons to drastically change opinions of people for..
Yes, but lets be honest, none of the Jobs admirers ever became fan from his humility. If anything, it was brutal honesty and willing to throw it all out the window that made him and all the products we use.
I know, that is aweful and didn’t know that. I have always thought the fact he didn’t want to hide his horrible acts was somewhat redeeming.
He accomplished so much, but he could have done the same without the whole “being a douche” part. At least he realized in the end.
It's regularly reported research that finds that business leaders and CEO's typically exhibit sociopathic or psychopathic traits. One would presume that the further up the chain you go, the stronger those traits are. It also seems that people who are extremely dedicated to a particular cause are quite content to let all other things fall by the wayside, including family / relationships, and even manners / social skills.
Having read a number of books about him, watched interviews and read countless anecdotes, I've never been under any illusion that Jobs exhibited those traits. He was clearly a piece of work but also quite brilliant and interesting. The more of these stories you read, the more it just paints the overall picture of the man.. it doesn't make me find him any less interesting (quite the opposite in fact) and it just helps keep some perspective that whilst he was rightly lauded as a tech visionary, he was also a bit of a dick.
Having read a number of books about him, watched interviews and read countless anecdotes, I've never been under any illusion that Jobs exhibited those traits. He was clearly a piece of work but also quite brilliant and interesting. The more of these stories you read, the more it just paints the overall picture of the man.. it doesn't make me find him any less interesting (quite the opposite in fact) and it just helps keep some perspective that whilst he was rightly lauded as a tech visionary, he was also a bit of a dick.
From a FORTUNE 2015 article (http://fortune.com/2015/08/06/steve-jobs-apple-girlfriend/):
"Brennan says later Jobs apologized for the way he’d treated her and Lisa. After developing a closer relationship with his daughter—who legally changed her name to Lisa Brennan-Jobs at age nine—he increased his support “in small increments,” eventually to $4,000 a month, says Brennan. “He was cheap as he could be. He under-provided for everything. It was always like pulling teeth to get him to step up.”
Over the years after their daughter’s birth, Jobs bought Brennan two cars and a $400,000 house, paid Lisa’s private school tuition, and at times offered other financial help. Despite this, Brennan filed for bankruptcy in 1996."
"Brennan says later Jobs apologized for the way he’d treated her and Lisa. After developing a closer relationship with his daughter—who legally changed her name to Lisa Brennan-Jobs at age nine—he increased his support “in small increments,” eventually to $4,000 a month, says Brennan. “He was cheap as he could be. He under-provided for everything. It was always like pulling teeth to get him to step up.”
Over the years after their daughter’s birth, Jobs bought Brennan two cars and a $400,000 house, paid Lisa’s private school tuition, and at times offered other financial help. Despite this, Brennan filed for bankruptcy in 1996."
Many don't put parental/family bonds in the same category as "paying the bills"... "normal" folks don't worry about "paying the bills" (in a real sense... more a first world keeping up with the neighbors, having the 2nd SUV... part of the value issues America has today).
Case in point... the unhappiest time of my life was during the dot-com boom while having a net worth in the low 8 figures...
He told Walter Isaacson that he regretted the way he treated Lisa. I guess his deliberate family helped him to understand what happened with Lisa was wrong.
Maybe someday you, along with the rest of the millennials, will grow an attention-span that allows you to consume information in larger chunks. Something to strive for, perhaps?
Emotional and psychological abuse, nothing short of.
As much as folks knock Tim C he comes across as a much nicer person doing things for other people and the planet, which is my measure of greatness.
As much as folks knock Tim C he comes across as a much nicer person doing things for other people and the planet, which is my measure of greatness.
Interesting thing about that... it's not actually possible for her to have inherited "nothing" from Steve, even if he had explicitly stated as much in his will. Because she inherited him. She will always be his daughter. She has that legacy, no matter what Steve might have thought he could withhold from her.
And since it's public knowledge now, she also inherits the opportunity to gain financially from that relationship, through writing this book -- though, as she has clearly indicated by her choice to switch publishers, that is by far and away the less important inheritance. I respect her decision, here; it can't have been an easy one.
And while I have somehow managed to stay clear of the other Steve Jobs "bio" works, which were transparently published (and/or produced) specifically to profit off of his legend, I think I'll have to make a point of buying a copy of her book. It sounds like it could be interesting.
I suggest not drawing conclusions from one photo showing how someone looked for one instant in her life. Furthermore, the photograph was picked by an editor at The New York Times, and may or may not represent how Ms. Brennan-Jobs feels now or felt that particular day.
Why do these people always write these things after a person is deceased. At least have the decency to call someone out when they are alive to defend themselves. No 1 on my do not read list.
1- I don't mean to be rude, but is she famous for something other than her father is Steve Jobs and he named a Macintosh computer after her? Why is she writing a book, usually autobiographies are about important people in society not your average joe.
2-Just wondering did Jobs give his wealth to his family, or did he give it away in donations? If he did, maybe his family should be more grateful. They are famous and rich because of him, so in a way he might not have been the best example of a family man but he still cared and provided.
Products made with care and love usually tend to have this kind of attachment and following by customers and users. This is evident in classic porsche, some videogames, Harley-Davidson... you get the idea. You can say FireFox, 1password, Linux too.
Compare that to your average commercial product made as a "me too" product, like generic toasters, LG cellphones from the past, or daewoo car.
2-Just wondering did Jobs give his wealth to his family, or did he give it away in donations? If he did, maybe his family should be more grateful. They are famous and rich because of him, so in a way he might not have been the best example of a family man but he still cared and provided.
Products made with care and love usually tend to have this kind of attachment and following by customers and users. This is evident in classic porsche, some videogames, Harley-Davidson... you get the idea. You can say FireFox, 1password, Linux too.
Compare that to your average commercial product made as a "me too" product, like generic toasters, LG cellphones from the past, or daewoo car.
Jobs was a genius, but let's not pretend Tim Cook was just along for the ride. Dude is an absolute business beast. Unapologetically brutal in negotiation and squeezing suppliers, hard. Design is pretty much dominated by Jony and many of the old ideas around iPhone have changed...screen size, software methodology, hardware like FaceID, and a bigger push toward services.
Jobs had great ideas, but I don't think he executed as well as Cook does and/or Cook was the brains behind execution. Jobs was stubborn too. No iPhone bigger than 4 inches? Cook fixed that. I think Cook is a better leader...tough, but not a jerk...at least not all the time.
People want the next "big" idea from Apple, but I'd argue they are already doing that in the transformation of iPhone, the introduction of the services model, and even hardware like Watch, AirPods, and even potentially a foray into cars.
Let's not forget iPhone is on a completely different level than it was in the Jobs era. Apple sells 3X as many iPhones as before, at higher prices. That doesn't just happen.
Theres always 2 sides to a story, and many here are dissing SJ after only hearing 1 side of it. And SJ isn't here to defend himself..
This rather reminds me of when Princess Dianna died and all the dirt that was dished on her afterwards.
I don't doubt there is at least some truth to what Lisa says, but I also don't doubt that she is milking it for all its worth.
This rather reminds me of when Princess Dianna died and all the dirt that was dished on her afterwards.
I don't doubt there is at least some truth to what Lisa says, but I also don't doubt that she is milking it for all its worth.