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I already have an iPhone 5 and AppleCare+... If apple is no longer producing the iPhone 5, what would they replace my completely damaged 5 with... A 5C or a 5S?

If they replaced it with a 5C (Crap), I would be extremely upset!

In the short term, you would get a 5. Once their replacement supply runs out in the months down the road, you would almost certainly get a 5S.
 
Embrace it in their lives?

It's an entirely new piece of hardware designed to save you the 1-1.3 seconds it takes to type a 4 digit pin number.

That's the very definition of solving something that isn't a problem.

My lock screen has a strong password and so does my Apple ID (iTunes store). It will be a welcome addition for me.

My LastPass Master Password is over 32 characters and some of my other passwords are 16. The fingerprint scanner on my laptop makes things easy.
 
I'm a consumer, and a logical one at that.

I have no allegiances to an ecosystem or a brand. I care not for the engineering feats, just the result, in what it costs me and what it offers me.

I don't care for pious individuals telling me that I should worship at the alter of technology simply because I cannot comprehend the processes used to create it (Though ironically I've seen countless numbers of motor manufacturing locations). I won't sit here and gush over one billion transistors on a chip because that number in isolation is meaningless.

Here's the bottom line: If a logical consumer owned a high-end smartphone from the last 2-3 years, there is nothing of substance that the iPhone 5s offers that makes it worth the prices they command. It's faster, it's more polished, it looks ever so slightly different from the last one, so what? The competitors have raised their game of the last 18 months, and now Apple decides to bring a knife to a gunfight.

There's a new Android phone every 5 minutes. new iPhone once a year. You can't keep up with that. Tell me functions that are the "guns" in this situation that are things I must personally have and want, from other phones.
 
In the short term, you would get a 5. Once their replacement supply runs out in the months down the road, you would almost certainly get a 5S.

I think the chances of getting a 5s as a replacement for a 5 under AppleCare (remember only 2 years from purchase date) is slim... maybe for an "out of warranty replacement" but even then... I don't think the supply of the 5 model will dry up any time soon...
 
Boo, who cares about a cheap iphone that is no better than the old one they are still selling.

64bit ios7 is cool but fingerprint sensor is a bit big brother to me and it's going to be hacked and used to commit crime and be bad press it just will be bad PR.

No big iphone is real bad for stock market that places huge importance on a growing sector of phablet users who are crying for one now not next year.

Apples 2 year updates are broken, they need to do 1 year updates that refine the appearance, they are only doing it so they barely need to retool and can use existing leftover stocks.

NO LAPTOPS! what! this is getting ridiculous, now. two keynotes down and no haswell retinas, yet a shady mac pro peak? what the hell. Like a tonne of people it's getting hard to wait knowing they are likely to cull the non retina MBP too. I don't want to buy an AIR ok.

Really we all want 128GB iphones etc and larger flash drives apple. Honestly it's one of the only things holding me off buying a current gen!

Please apple just give us a little more space for profession full time laptop etc work.
 
Embrace it in their lives?

It's an entirely new piece of hardware designed to save you the 1-1.3 seconds it takes to type a 4 digit pin number.

That's the very definition of solving something that isn't a problem.

it's not the time, it's the security. Codes can be stolen or guessed, but not a fingerprint as easily. Especially to a thief.
 
The iPhone 5C's only purpose is to end the cannibilization of the latest iPhone by last year's model. Customers were preferring to buy the 4S over the 5 due to price. This will now end and people who buy the 5C will filling Apple's pockets with cash.

Who wants to buy plastic iPhone 5 versus iPhone 5 for this price? Not me that's for sure.
 
Yes, fingerprint technology has been around for a long time, but it has not been popularized in mainstream tech.

Come back to this post a year from now. All of Google's flagship phones will have fingerprint sensors and will be a key feature of their Wallet product.

silly silly silly

do some research on the Motorola Atrix :)
 
It says only the 5C is available for preordering on the 13th. Then it says the 5C and 5S available on the 20th.

No pre-orders for 5S will suck. The only reason I could see Apple doing this would be to generate long lines and media attention.

No, it's because supply is super limited due to low amount of fingerprint sensors. So preorders won't work. Get in line.
 
This was the "S" upgrade. It's appealing to people who bought the 4S 2 years ago. Also, there's not much in the GS4 that appeals to existing GS3 owners, so it isn't just Apple. That said, I think 64-bit is a bigger deal than most people realize.

I have a 4S (and previously Edge and 3GS). I've been upgrade eligible awhile now. The 5S just didn't do it.

I do fitness with an iPod, not an expensive hand-held computer. My camera is already good enough for the kinds of photography I would do with a phone. I don't use a passcode. And since my 4S doesn't feel slow yet, the 5S has nothing really to offer.

The 5S is an upgrade for people still running 3GS and 4. But so was the 5. Who is the 5S targeted at?
 
How many of these disappointing spec bumps do we have to go through before Apple is actually really forced to do something interesting. Fingerprint scanner is nice and all, but unless your contract is coming due, and you have a 4S or lower, AND you absolutely have to have an iPhone, there is no reason to choose the 5S over a plethora of better phones out there like HTC One, S4, Note III, Moto X, Lumia 928 or 1080, just to name a few. And then to STILL start at 16Gb and keep charging $100 extra for upgrade to 32Gb. Sad really, and probably the last nail in the coffin as I'm moving away from once an Apple-only household. I know I'm not the only one as I see it all around me. Every year the hope builds just to be shuttered by another mediocre update. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple ends up the way of Palm or Blackberry - once a must-to-have, now gone or soon to be gone because the time has passed them by and they couldn't do anything new or innovative.

Funny that you say that though but you're not touting what the other competitors can do better for you. ;)
 
I said it before - but I'll say it again. The 5C enables Apple to cater to those that want a cheaper iPhone and also have some variety in colors - something competitive to other phones in the market. They can do this WITHOUT "blemishing" their flagship phone.

They have basically divided their product offerings. It's no longer old/new. It's "Flagship" and "Budget"
 
was watching the Verge after show and they were discussing all new camera features on the 5S and Nilay pretty much summed up what I thought as well.

"The experience they want to create with this camera is matching the experience of using all of Samsung's *****."
 
silly silly silly

do some research on the Motorola Atrix :)

I know about the Atrix. Everyone knows about the Atrix. Oddly, no one actually owns an Atrix, nor did it bring fingerprint technology into the mindshare of the mass market.

You guys really need to stop worrying about who did it first and start focusing on who did it right.
 
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