Live Coverage of Apple's 2013 iPhone Media Event

[Nocaster]

I have had the iPhone since 1Gen I honestly believe it is time to move to Samsung Galaxy Note 3, with the watch, they are just starting to offer more of what I want to see..

You'll regret it and switch back within three months. Trust me on this, I did it last year when Apple release a longer 4S and called it iPhone 5. I bought a Galaxy and hated it.

Android is awful. It's gimmicky, yet the gimmicks are clunky and do not work as advertised. Google Play is tedious and cumbersome. Losing iCloud and the seamless integration between devices was like losing a limb.

Hardware-wise, nothing stood out about the Samsung. The faster (at the time) processor gave a negligible performance boost. The screen was bigger, but didn't hold a candle to the Retina display. I had to zoom webpages in to read them, which pretty much negated the reason for having a larger screen in the first place.

But by all means, don't take my word for it. Make the switch.

But don't say you weren't warned.

 

[ElectronGuru]

I already have an iPhone 5 and AppleCare+... If apple is no longer producing the iPhone 5, what would they replace my completely damaged 5 with... A 5C or a 5S?

If they replaced it with a 5C (Crap), I would be extremely upset!

Apple discontinues plenty of other products on a regular basis, without issue. They'll have extra new ones, extra parts, refurb units, and last resort - 5s. No point inviting a law suit.

 

[samcraig]

Think games. Think AirPlay. Think big screens. Now imagine your iPhone as a controller.

Also, remember universal apps; there may not be anything to warrant that kind of power yet, but give developers a chance, they'll find a way!

Very few are going to need 64bit in the near future. I think it's safe to say it's a bragging tech point. Nothing more.

Except the "budget" is exactly the same price as today's "flagship,"

Not accurate.

no, not for the same storage space.

Exactly

 

[b_scott]

Why did you say again? Are you the same person with multiple accounts? And if you read the other persons comments he implied about the speed hence my reply. And I think you'll find people will get annoyed if their £700 phone takes longer to unlock using a finger.

what? why did I say? I have one account.

it's about security. Easier to crack a number code than a fingerprint, for a snatching thief at least.

 

[Pro31]

This is the first time I will be skipping an upgrade. I was really looking forward to something different.

 

[Dmunjal]

The competition isn't innovating either. Samsung throws hundreds of cheap gimmicks at the wall, hoping one of them will stick. Everyone is trying to replicate that heady time when smartphones were introducing amazing new features every year, but the fact is we've reached the point where there isn't much to do but improve each year iteratively. Given that situation, it makes perfect sense to begin diversifying the line into higher and lower end models (a la iPhone 5s and 5c). I don't think they're doing anything that Jobs wouldn't have done himself.

Getting rid of the 5 but keep the 4S? Bring out the 5C with nothing new except fancy colors? Both decisions smack of a profit motive ahead of building "insanely great" products.

The 5C should be no more than $450 and $0 subsidized. Slotted where the 4S is now. Keep the 5 in the $99 slot.

Again, what has Apple been doing for the past 12 months? They've got the best engineering talent, the most money, and a great brand. And this is it?

 

[yaxomoxay]

You'll regret it and switch back within three months. Trust me on this, I did it last year when Apple release a longer 4S and called it iPhone 5. I bought a Galaxy and hated it.

Android is awful. It's gimmicky, yet the gimmicks are clunky and do not work as advertised. Google Play is tedious and cumbersome. Losing iCloud and the seamless integration between devices was like losing a limb.

Hardware-wise, nothing stood out about the Samsung. The faster (at the time) processor gave a negligible performance boost. The screen was bigger, but didn't hold a candle to the Retina display. I had to zoom webpages in to read them, which pretty much negated the reason for having a larger screen in the first place.

But by all means, don't take my word for it. Make the switch.

But don't say you weren't warned.

I had Android for the past three years, on Samsung or HTC. Same my wife. Android is getting worse and worse. It sucks basically. Wife switched to iPhone and she loves it. I will switch to 5S quite soon.

 

[greenmeanie]

So we are back to the Color thing once again they are truly out of idea's.

So when we need a new Mac pro Cylinder they will just makes colors and call it a new machine?

 

[Spacial]

The Verge is pro-Apple? In what universe exactly? The Verge has become more and more anti-Apple over the past year or so. That's why I was surprised they actually said something nice about the 5C.

The Milky Way Galaxy, where human beings are individual & have their own opinions.

 

[yaxomoxay]

Getting rid of the 5 but keep the 4S? Bring out the 5C with nothing new except fancy colors? Both decisions smack of a profit motive ahead of building "insanely great" products.

The 5C should be no more than $450 and $0 subsidized. Slotted where the 4S is now. Keep the 5 in the $99 slot.

Again, what has Apple been doing for the past 12 months? They've got the best engineering talent, the most money, and a great brand. And this is it?

Let's see, I guess they just slept for twelve months:
-iOS7
-OSX Mavericks
-Mac Pro
-Macbook Air
-Apple Radio
-New Airport Extreme
-New Time Capsule
- iPhone 5s & 5c

Get a grip. One thing is saying that you don't like the products or are too extensive for you, one thing is accusing capable engineers of not doing their job at their best.

 

[votdfak]

You'll regret it and switch back within three months. Trust me on this, I did it last year when Apple release a longer 4S and called it iPhone 5. I bought a Galaxy and hated it.

Android is awful. It's gimmicky, yet the gimmicks are clunky and do not work as advertised. Google Play is tedious and cumbersome. Losing iCloud and the seamless integration between devices was like losing a limb.

Hardware-wise, nothing stood out about the Samsung. The faster (at the time) processor gave a negligible performance boost. The screen was bigger, but didn't hold a candle to the Retina display. I had to zoom webpages in to read them, which pretty much negated the reason for having a larger screen in the first place.

But by all means, don't take my word for it. Make the switch.

But don't say you weren't warned.

Don't spread the shill. You had to zoom pages to read them. LOL

 

[diamond.g]

Wait, wasn't AC+ 50USD per incident? When did it go up to 79USD?

 

[blue22]

don't get your panties in a bunch...

Yes. And yes, megapixels still mean nothing. You could have 100 megapixels and if the optics are crap and the sensor is crap then the picture would still be grainy and crap. Why do people find this so hard to understand?

It was a straight forward question dude, but thanks for answering it without being a judgmental schmuck.

And "yes" I too am well aware that megapixels aren't the end-all be-all of producing quality photos, but since I didn't hear much from the initial announcement in the way of a more significant improvement to the iPhone camera system in the 5S (a ƒ2.2 aperture and dual-LED flash being more representative of an incremental update) I thought I'd just ask about that other spec detail here on MR, so spare us your assumptive reckless attitude when replying to someone's post.

 

[Rafterman]

Very disappointed. I know its a "5" to "5S" upgrade and we shouldn't have expected much, but almost everything predicted was a wipeout (which goes to show that these industry "analysts" do not know crap).

128GB? Nope

Wireless AC? Nope

NFC? Nope.

On top of that, you can't even pre-order the 5S if you wanted to, just the 5C. Its almost like Apple only cared about getting the 5C to China and the 5S was an afterthought (e.g., a money grab).

Only the fingerprint scanner (whoopee) came true. An improved camera? Bleh. 64 bit sounds good, but few apps can take advantage of it, nor would even need to. Most of the time, you won't even notice it. I don't think Scrabble at 64 bit will improve gameplay

Again, I know, I know - only an "S" upgrade. And while I didn't expect all the predictions to come true, I also didn't think none of them (or only one) would either.

Just "bleh".

 

[yaxomoxay]

Very disappointed. I know its a "5" to "5S" upgrade and we shouldn't have expected much, but almost everything predicted was a wipeout (which goes to show that these industry "analysts" do not know crap).

128GB? Nope

Wireless AC? Nope

NFC? Nope.

On top of that, you can't even pre-order the 5S if you wanted to, just the 5C. Its almost like Apple only cared about getting the 5C to China and the 5S was an afterthought (e.g., a money grab).

Only the fingerprint scanner (whoopee) came true. An improved camera? Bleh. 64 bit sounds good, but few apps can take advantage of it, nor would even need to. Most of the time, you won't even notice it. I don't think Scrabble at 64 bit will improve gameplay

Again, I know, I know - only an "S" upgrade. And while I didn't expect all the predictions to come true, I also didn't think none of them (or only one) would either.

Just "bleh".

True. You just get.64 bit, fingerprint, a brand new OS, iWork, iPhoto, iMovie. Life sucks.

 

[MalusSylvestris]

It was a straight forward question dude, but thanks for answering it without being a judgmental schmuck.

And "yes" I too am well aware that megapixels aren't the end-all be-all of producing quality photos, but since I didn't hear much from the initial announcement in the way of a more significant improvement to the iPhone camera system in the 5S (a ƒ2.2 aperture and dual-LED flash being more representative of an incremental update) I thought I'd just ask about that other spec detail here on MR, so spare us your assumptive reckless attitude when replying to someone's post.

Seems like the biggest camera update so far to me. Image stabilisation, burst mode, improved flash, slow-mo video...

 

[Nocaster]

Don't spread the shill. You had to zoom pages to read them. LOL

Shill? I ragequit the iPhone, I'm hardly a shill. I stand by my comments regarding my experince with android / Samsung

 

[kruug]

The competition isn't innovating either. Samsung throws hundreds of cheap gimmicks at the wall, hoping one of them will stick. Everyone is trying to replicate that heady time when smartphones were introducing amazing new features every year, but the fact is we've reached the point where there isn't much to do but improve each year iteratively. Given that situation, it makes perfect sense to begin diversifying the line into higher and lower end models (a la iPhone 5s and 5c). I don't think they're doing anything that Jobs wouldn't have done himself.

So, if no one is releasing major updates/upgrades, stop holding annual showcase events...I don't see Samsung getting up and holding a Galaxy S5 event, nor do I see Google exclusively showing off their Nexus devices (yes, they have I/O, but that's not Nexus/Android specific).

 

[yaxomoxay]

It's incredible how many people believe that a small upgrade of a working product is a simple matter. This upgrade ain't even that small.

 

[apolloa]

Getting rid of the 5 but keep the 4S? Bring out the 5C with nothing new except fancy colors? Both decisions smack of a profit motive ahead of building "insanely great" products.

The 5C should be no more than $450 and $0 subsidized. Slotted where the 4S is now. Keep the 5 in the $99 slot.

Again, what has Apple been doing for the past 12 months? They've got the best engineering talent, the most money, and a great brand. And this is it?

Yeah, I know people say Steve never would, well he never would have sold his company down the toilet for even more greed and profit like Cook is! He is taking it on a one way ticket to destruction IMO. The only thing I think they have innovated with is the new Mac Pro design, I can't see any watch being particularly innovating either from Apple.

 

[macaddict06]

1. he's not gonna get your reference
2. look at his name... don't waste your time

...because anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot and names like "macaddict" really have no place in a Mac rumors site, right?

 

[chakraj]

...because anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot and names like "macaddict" really have no place in a Mac rumors site, right?

I dont Troll often.
But when I do, I Troll Mac Rumors.

 

[Dmunjal]

Let's see, I guess they just slept for twelve months:
-iOS7
-OSX Mavericks
-Mac Pro
-Macbook Air
-Apple Radio
-New Airport Extreme
-New Time Capsule
- iPhone 5s & 5c

Get a grip. One thing is saying that you don't like the products or are too extensive for you, one thing is accusing capable engineers of not doing their job at their best.

I'm talking about the iPhone team. The product that makes them the most money? Again, this is it?

 

[KPOM]

How, on a device with less memory than would be able to make use of 64-bit addressing?

Two things. First of all, it has a different instruction set. Second, it gets application developers thinking in 64-bit now, so by the time we have phones that have 4+ GB of RAM we'll actually have applications that can take advantage of it. Unlike the X64/X86 world where we had 64-bit processors running 32-bit OSes for years because nothing was written for 64-bit.

 

[codefuns]

The C in iPhone 5C means "cheaper for us to make so we can keep that fat profit margin."

wow, just know that

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Quoad core on a phone is an overkill too, but it's innovation when samsung does it.

64 bit cpu should pair with more memory, otherwise, not too much meaning