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Live Coverage of Apple's Education Event in Chicago

cardfan said:
Yep, as much as Apple is dead here, it's not like I favor spending even 200 a student on chromebooks. Students aren't learning PC skills. These are basically browsers or turning in half baked papers. They stopped teaching grammar at my daughter's middle school. I'm not sure she's even been assigned a paper to do yet in middle school and it's 7th grade. She's never had a test in science. They don't do it. No textbooks. Not even digital ones. It's all worksheets.

If not for the fact we've always had a Mac or PC in house and I've taught her over the years, my daughter wouldn't have a clue how to use Word, Excel, Adobe, an email program like Outlook, etc.
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True, but iPads and Chromebooks are just halfway PC’s in a way.
I wrote this in the Live thread:

I think that the cardinal sin was to give up on eMacs, especially if they believed that iPads could compete in the educational system. They should’ve kept going with laptops, maybe based off the plastic Macbook, call it eMacBook or whatever, all with an iCloud based system. Then augment it all with ePads.
 
KPOM said:
Yes. School boards want to give away user data to Google in exchange for ultra cheap devices. Nothing bad can possibly happen out of that.
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Oh come on... that’s so old and based on assumptions. You shouldn’t use any google on Apple either and not using iCloud because it’s stored on google servers.

Google is eating apple’s lunch these days and Apple isn’t the Apple it used to be anymore. It doesn’t seem to be able to be competitive.
 
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iReality85 said:
I've been thinking about upgrading from my iPad mini 2 (we're talking an A5 processor and no Touch ID- ancient by today's standards) to something newer, and this new 9.7 might fit the bill.

For $329? Very tempting.
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It is an A7 SoC!
 
phphreak said:
What is the difference between the iPad Pro and this new iPad released today? Why would anyone get an iPad Pro now? That’s all I need to know.
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iPad Pros have...
  • Larger and MUCH better screens (laminated (no gap between glass and display), ProMotion 120 Hz refresh rate, True Tone, wide color gamut, better anti-reflective coating)
  • Faster processor (6 core CPU vs 4 core, and 12 core GPU vs 6 core)
  • More RAM (4 GB vs 2 GB), so that more apps can remain open in the background without reloading
  • Much better front camera (7 MP with Auto HDR vs 1.2 MP) and rear camera (12 MP f/1.8 with OIS and Auto HDR vs 8 MP f/2.4)
  • Much better speakers (4 vs 2)
  • Better microphones (2 vs 1, with noise cancelling)
  • Smart Connector, for better keyboard accessories
  • Thinner case
  • Larger storage options (256 GB and 512 GB)
  • Rose Gold color option
Did I miss anything?
 
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We need a petition to replace Tim Cook with Scott Forstall.

Then again why would Scott want to come back to this mess Cook has created. The one that I still can't get over is Cook letting Ive run amok with that 10k+ gold Apple Watch, see how that worked out for them.
 
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phphreak said:
That partially answers my question, however I have the iPad Pro 9.7 inch, which is mentioned on that page. As far as I can tell, the “new” iPad released today doesn’t have the Apple Smart Keyboard connectors at the bottom, and thus must be used with an external Bluetooth keyboard. It also doesn’t have the TrueTone display (?).

The one thing the new 9.7 inch iPad does have is a better processor than the 2016 9.7 inch iPad Pro model.
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A10 is faster but the A9X has the graphic processor inside it! More memory too! Wide color display.
 
gtg465x said:
iPad Pros have...
  • Larger and MUCH better screens (laminated (no gap between glass and screen), ProMotion 120 Hz refresh rate, True Tone, wide color gamut, better anti-reflective coating)
  • Faster processor (6 core CPU vs 4 core, and 12 core GPU vs 6 core)
  • More RAM (4 GB vs 2 GB), so that more apps can remain open in the background without reloading
  • Much better front camera (7 MP with Auto HDR vs 1.2 MP) and rear camera (12 MP f/1.8 with OIS and Auto HDR vs 8 MP f/2.4)
  • Much better speakers (4 vs 2)
  • Better microphones (2 vs 1, with noise cancelling)
  • Smart Connector, for better keyboard accessories
Did I miss anything?
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thank you. Now do one for the iPad Pro 9.7 (2016) vs the new 9.7 (just kidding). thanks again.
 
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phphreak said:
The 2016 iPad Pro 9.7 inch has the A9X chip compared to the non pro 9.7 one released today that has an A10 (no x). I wonder what the difference is?
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I would definitely go for the laminated screen on the iPad Pro. But I feel your dilemma... new or refurbished they’re both still expensive and won’t come with pencil included.
 
Well they released the space grey keyboard, Magic Mouse, and trackpad. Which is something I guess. Still wanted airpower though.
 
iPaintCode said:
We need a petition to replace Tim Cook with Scott Forstall.

Then again why would Scott want to come back to this mess Cook has created. The one that I still can't get over is Cook letting Ive run amok with that 10k+ gold Apple Watch, see how that worked out for them.
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While I’m not sure Scott is the right person anymore, I agree that something must happen. We need a guy with the passion for the tech and vision again. Definitely no bean counter! Profits needs to be made but Apple is taking it to the extreme and returning or delivering below acceptable.
 
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macduke said:
Not sure which is worse: Teachers being able to make up whatever "alternative facts" they want to teach their students, or some megacorp mass-producing textbooks based on horrible government standards.
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Does it matter which is worse? Let's replace whatever doesn't work, and isn't giving us our desired outcomes.
 
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KPOM said:
Yes. School boards want to give away user data to Google in exchange for ultra cheap devices. Nothing bad can possibly happen out of that.
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Google Apps for Education doesn't use customer data like the standard Google ecosystem does.
 
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Lobwedgephil said:
Well they released the space grey keyboard, Magic Mouse, and trackpad. Which is something I guess. Still wanted airpower though.
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They’ll soon deliver new iPhone X colors too. I’ll guess that will be all for the year, otherwise they will overdo themselves. Except maybe the new autumn collection of watchbands :rolleyes:

Seriously, they really are underperforming hardware/software wise. It shows Tim Cook isn’t as passionate about tech and software and also in many ways clueless. He’s the best bean counter you could possibly have in a company. But Apple needs its soul back!
 
gtg465x said:
iPad Pros have...
  • Larger and MUCH better screens (laminated (no gap between glass and display), ProMotion 120 Hz refresh rate, True Tone, wide color gamut, better anti-reflective coating)
  • Faster processor (6 core CPU vs 4 core, and 12 core GPU vs 6 core)
  • More RAM (4 GB vs 2 GB), so that more apps can remain open in the background without reloading
  • Much better front camera (7 MP with Auto HDR vs 1.2 MP) and rear camera (12 MP f/1.8 with OIS and Auto HDR vs 8 MP f/2.4)
  • Much better speakers (4 vs 2)
  • Better microphones (2 vs 1, with noise cancelling)
  • Smart Connector, for better keyboard accessories
  • Thinner case
  • Larger storage options (256 GB and 512 GB)
  • Rose Gold color option
Did I miss anything?
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and if you go in store and use the 9.7" iPad and then a Pro it is amazing how much that 120hz refresh rate matters. It is a night and day difference just simply navigating the UI.
 
L-Viz said:
My iPhone 6 is dying so i just ordered an iPhone SE1. F you Apple.
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I would go android for that price and have better specs and screen than the 3 years old SE. The difference between iOS and Android isn’t that big anymore and in many ways Android has a better GUI than iOS. :eek: Never thought I would ever say that o_O
 
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