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From what I've heard from my client and friends over the past 2 years or so since the Pencil shipped, the significance of the Pencil support is less about people WANTING it and more about Customer Satisfaction AFTER purchase when they find out the iPad they got their kid for Christmas doesn't work with the Pencil the kid just hounded them to buy for birthday! "But the COMMERCIAL!" You can't believe how many returned, un-successfully-used Pencils Apple must have had to deal with… I have an idea because I've heard WAY TOO MANY complaints personally. Pencil support was something that NEEDED to happen for Apple to even have a prayer to remain relevant in the low-end EDU/kids market without 1 year CusSat tanking. In Apple Pencil, Apple created a monster by perceptually over-promising and under-delivering.
 
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Precisely. I bet Superintendent is going to ask money for the $249/student :)

While you may be right, a good superintendent would ask for the tool that is best for students. Unfortunately, Apple fails not just at cost, but also all around usability without a keyboard, and the crippled nature of Google Apps on iOS. Further, unless they fixed the IT management piece, it could be a nonstarter even if everything else was in place.

One small note. While the actual initial cost of a Chromebook is indeed around $249, the ongoing cost is higher. In my district, very few of our Chromebooks have had keyboards last more than a year. These things are not durable at all.
 
One hour for just one product but, boy, was it worth it.

Apple decided to offer a pretty sweet iPad with all you need for a low price.

Today the iPad is in fact the only Apple product with a properly tiered offer. Every customers has decent offers.

I hope this says something about future Apple launches.
 
WHAT IS MISSING is a way to manage ipads in larger numbers in a cost-effective and efficient way. I work in IT in a large private school. We have three ipad cards that have not been used in years because it became a full-time job to manage updates, software installations, etc., and the 3rd party ways to manage them were too expensive. We currently have no plans to replace these iPad 2s and have been on Chromebooks for a few years. $25/device for the lifetime of the device to manage and its all web-based management.

Apple, we would love to use all of this. But if we have to manage dozens of iPads individually, it's not going to happen. Whole districts have bailed on iPads for management reasons alone. It's a major piece if apple is really going to be successful in education.

If you have say... less than 50 devices, I imagine you could get away with using Configurator 2, on its own. I agree though, Apple should have produced their own management software from the get-go. Unfortunately most MDM software isn't free, so organisations should be factoring this into their costs before making purchasing decisions.
 
I think Apple is a little late to the party. Every school I know uses Chromebooks one to one with students. Web apps are the future.

Affordable, Easy to Replace, and unlike the iPad comes with a keyboard for typing and coding already.

Yeah Apple thought web apps were the future when they introduced the iPhone and iOS. Turns out they were very wrong.
 
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Then there is the flip side of this whole thing. Is all of this technology actually a good thing in the classroom in the first place? This is something I have grappled with the last couple of years as I see teachers forcing tech where it does not really belong.

That is the White Elefant in the Room. I teach at a technical college, my students carry all kinds of mobile electronics into the classroom. Did it actually improve their abilities?
I can not find the evidence that they are smarter now, than they where 10 years ago...
 
While you may be right, a good superintendent would ask for the tool that is best for students. Unfortunately, Apple fails not just at cost, but also all around usability without a keyboard, and the crippled nature of Google Apps on iOS. Further, unless they fixed the IT management piece, it could be a nonstarter even if everything else was in place.

One small note. While the actual initial cost of a Chromebook is indeed around $249, the ongoing cost is higher. In my district, very few of our Chromebooks have had keyboards last more than a year. These things are not durable at all.

Yeah but you know how the politics behind it works, especially with an elected board. If I had to make the decision, I’d buy this new iPad in the blink of an eye. It’s definitely a superior product, and that’s why on my first post on the issue I am not blaming the product but the lack of understanding of how the system works. Apple can make the best product in the history of humanity, but if it wants to sell it to public entities it has to consider the budgetary (= political! ) factors.
 
Does anyone know what font they used for iPad and the rest of the keynote presentation?
 
That is the White Elefant in the Room. I teach at a technical college, my students carry all kinds of mobile electronics into the classroom. Did it actually improve their abilities?
I can not find the evidence that they are smarter now, than they where 10 years ago...

I agree. There are definitely some really neat things that technology brings to the table, the Desmos graphing calculator being perhaps the best example, but for so many situations, they simply add complication and distraction from the learning.
 
While I might agree with your sentiments, Linus was not bounded by monetary elements. At least not in the beginning.
School districts, and public education in general, are.

Somebody in education infrastructure should create an "Open Education Foundation":

- create a github org
- create a repo in that org describing what's in the scope of that org
- solicit ideas from others, even vendors like Apple and Google
- collaborate/debate/argue and come up with an OK platform
- if/when you fail, scrape yourself off and keep at it
- solicit funds from those same vendors to ensure your foundation's viability. (Trust me, if Apple nor Google won't support you, some other hungry infrastructure company will. It won't be the leader, it will be the hungry competitor)
- get open source developers to help implement it
- steer your future to where you want it to go.

There are 50 million K-12 students in the US. Tap into that power.
 
What is the difference between the iPad Pro and this new iPad released today? Why would anyone get an iPad Pro now? That’s all I need to know.
 
Somebody in education infrastructure should create an "Open Education Foundation":

- create a github org
- create a repo in that org describing what's in the scope of that org
- solicit ideas from others, even vendors like Apple and Google
- collaborate/debate/argue and come up with an OK platform
- if/when you fail, scrape yourself off and keep at it
- solicit funds from those same vendors to ensure your foundation's viability. (Trust me, if Apple nor Google won't support you, some other hungry infrastructure company will. It won't be the leader, it will be the hungry competitor)
- get open source developers to help implement it
- steer your future to where you want it to go.

There are 50 million K-12 students in the US. Tap into that power.

Too many laws. In California, the biggest problem would be student privacy laws. I like the sentiment, but it would be very difficult to implement. The only platform that I know of that has had any success with this is Moodle, and even then, most of their momentum was sucked up when Google Classroom came along.
 
I work with UK schools, and though there was initial interest in the iPad when it came out, it just isn't there any more. No matter what shiny features you put in, the first thing (unfortunately) education purchasers ask is 'How much is it?' Especially in the UK where Apple over-inflates the exchange rate, a new iPad will be nearly £300. I can get a decent well built Chromebooks for £200. Yes they may not have the shiny apps, but they have a proper keyboard, and can do what students need to do. As much as i've tried, i can never sell the idea of Apple products to educators any more. And i'm an Apple fan.
I feel you. Apple has neglected too many areas for too long. Too many school districts had bad experiences with iPads and you can’t get them back without listening to the users about its biggest shortcomings. They haven’t addressed them. Although it’s a little step in the right direction, the competition in the meanwhile take three big steps in the right direction. Apple refuses to listen to it’s shortcomings and it’s not only showing in education. More and more people realize they don’t need über priced iPads or computers. They were willing to pay that in the past because there wasn’t any good alternative. Fast forward today: Apple is still über priced but also lagging in offering what the competition already addressed. It’s the arrogance they still think they’re king that they feel justified to ask high prices. Dear Tim Cook: Apple is getting out of date. Don’t you really get it? Look around you and see for yourself. You’re right though: you can only seeing coming that from Apple. It’s a mantra that worked in the past but is shameful today.
 
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