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Am I wrong or aren't these Skylake, the newest ones available?

New ones are, but they are still selling the Haswell based Macbook Pros for $1500. Its not even Haswell Refresh (Devil Canon), its Haswell.

If this was the plan, the previous generation Macbook should have Skylake Processors and the new ones should run Kaby Lake.
 
FoxConn assembles phones. Apple designs just about every component.
You do know I was joking. Apple has over 100,000 people working for them. Yes, many in retail, but that spaceship they are building houses more that just the phone unit. And speaking about the phone, although nice, Jonny has not been up to much lately, has he.
 
New ones are, but they are still selling the Haswell based Macbook Pros for $1500. Its not even Haswell Refresh (Devil Canon), its Haswell.

If this was the plan, the previous generation Macbook should have Skylake Processors and the new ones should run Kaby Lake.

I can't imagine too many are now amped to buy the old ones anyway. If they wanted one they've had 18 months. I don't know why you wouldn't buy Skylake if you're buying a new mac today.
 
Granted, but development cycles are getting shorter and shorter and if you keep waiting for 'that big thing' you'll be waiting forever. As it stands the Skylake CPU's released last year are already old in tech terms, we're looking at 12-18 month product cycles now. The 'new' GPU's in the Macbook Pro are already 4 months old in the form of the Polaris mobile chipset. The drivers for these have been present in the 10.12 builds for quite a while. A current Xeon Mac Pro would be great coupled with a single custom Quadro, dual Quadro or 2x GTX pascal based cards. I don't *need* OS X for painting, animation, modelling and rigging work, I can happily run Maya, Krita and other Foundry apps on Linux. My only OS X investment remains with my iTunes, Photos and Mail libaries, which can be served from my current Macbook Pro.

But thank you for re-posting the trimmed down note, worth knowing. What it boils down to *for me* is Apple have long ago abandoned the Pro user (even the average not-so pro user) and is now 95% focussed on the phone and tablet market. Some good things just come to an end, time to move on for me. I'm sure the pendulum will swing the other way again.

I can't disagree with anything you wrote. Though it has been frustrating as Intel's obligations and unforeseen delays forced our hand. There has been a strong focus on returning to powerful systems with current tech. Yet as you mentioned, it's almost self-defeating in a rapidly evolving technological world. This would have been avoided had Apple not been reliant on Intel's CPU's.

The OS and lacking professional editing suites that once drove Apple's bottom line are lost to pro's and studio's that once invested an easy 6-figures annually for hardware and editing suite licenses. We will never court them back; Apple lost their faith for those who held on and those who didn't have invested heavily in monetary and training on new systems. From a marketing stance (my position), iOS market saturation has been a problem for some time. Cook is pushing into China, India, and soon South America in hopes that new markets will stimulate interest and reverse course yet product cycles have been offering less since Jobs passed with exorbitant price tags in countries that offer alternatives for much less.

Bottom line: Jobs was the visionary, Ive and his team brought Jobs' idea's to life, and Cook handled the finances. Ive is uninspired and planned to leave to focus on family back in the UK and Cook is throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. That trio is what made Apple succeed after faltering under Sculley. Jobs was the Jack Sparrow of Apple and the "Black Pearl" has run ashore with no way to dig it out.

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SD card slot has been gone for awhile hasn't it?
No, it hasn't.

Mine never worked on mine from 6 years ago and I don't think they've gotten more reliable. I always use an adapter which doesn't corrupt my images.....It's not as big a deal as you may initially think.

Says you who doesn't seem to mind having a non-functional piece of equipment for six years, but I use it all the time, and it's nice not having to hunt around for a card reader.
 
I can't imagine too many are now amped to buy the old ones anyway. If they wanted one they've had 18 months. I don't know why you wouldn't buy Skylake if you're buying a new mac today.

Skylake was released in mid-2015, Kaby Lake is just around the corner. We have a processor released in 2015, still being sold on a computer which is coming in stock near the end of 2016 (so essentially 2017) which is priced at $2000 (Canadian Dollars).

Some people can't afford $2000 for a new computer. But they should not be sold a computer running a processor which is almost 3 years old for $1500.

Can I also throw in until yesterday we have Ivy Bridge Computer being sold at $1200 price point. A computer with a 5 year old processor is being sold for $1200 today.

When will see a new Kaby Lake Macbook? Will it come out priced higher than the current generation Skylake Macbook? Will we be sold the Skylake Macbook Pro for $2000 at that point and the Kaby Lake Macbook for $2500.

Apple is becoming a parody of itself. Lets just increase the price and see people pay for it. At least when Steve was in charge, we got a reasonable price point, and current generation hardware at that price point.
 
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That thing she did with photoshop you can do with mouse and set up shortcuts in about half the time or faster. When you want to edit your grandmas photos you wouldn't care but when I'm pushing on a 30 months project where every minute counts in the end this is simply not only not acceptable but literally borderline stupid.

Surface Studio is a PRO machine. This emoji pumpkin with a touch capable laptop is a toy. Very VERY expensive toy. Nothing PROfessional about it.

Surface would be great if you could use all the features on an OS that isn't Windows.

Unfortunately Windows is still garbage. That alone makes it a deal breaker. I couldn't even do my job duties without the Terminal and Homebrew at this point. Putty or even that stupid ubuntu crap built in to powershell just doesn't cut it.
 
Pretty lackluster announcement if you ask me. This is a product they are better off just debuting on their website. A pretty terrible follow up to Microsoft's Surface Studio as well. At this point, iMessage is about the only thing keeping me from at least trying Android. Several people I know are less patient than I am and have already made the switch.

As for computers, I have a Macbook Retina 13 and a Dell XPS 13, and if not for the Mac OS, I'd have moved exclusively over to my Dell by now. I keep hoping to see more innovation from Apple, but it never comes.
 
Once my 2015 15" MBP dies, I think it's time to move to Windows. I already have an SP3 and Windows is an amazing OS again. Theres some great hardware being produced in the PC world these days.

Waiting for a 2015 MBP to die is going to take awhile. I'm debating when to upgrade my 2011 iMac. Not sure if switching to a Macbook Pro is my plan. If not, then probably in 2017 I will get a new home computer. I hope you get similar life out of your computer.
 
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Surface would be great if you could use all the features on an OS that isn't Windows.

Unfortunately Windows is still garbage. That alone makes it a deal breaker. I couldn't even do my job duties without the Terminal and Homebrew at this point. Putty or even that stupid ubuntu crap built in to powershell just doesn't cut it.

Being familiar with both I'll say you just don't know how to use it so enjoy your OSX and get the new awesome emoji bar machine ;)
 
No, it hasn't.



Says you who doesn't seem to mind having a non-functional piece of equipment for six years, but I use it all the time, and it's nice not having to hunt around for a card reader.

I guess the last version had one.

My Canon uses CF cards anyway. I haven't found the built in to be reliable. Half the time it won't even see the card is inserted.

I feel like people aren't looking at the layout of the internals of the system. They needed more space, so they cut down on differing chips for exponential ports to save room so they can put battery there, among other things like better speakers.

Apple just had us waste 1.5hrs for a mediocre, expensive laptop in which the main feature is a replacement for Function keys.

Is it better than 2015's? Yes. Is it great for those of us who actually need an upgrade (pre-2011, which just got delisted for service)? Yes.

Those who have recent MBP's don't need one anyway. So, sorry but it looks good to my 2010 MBP.
 
I know that many are disappointed by what was announced and probably more by what wasn't announced. I'm sad to see the end of the 11" MBA, magsafe, and all of the other features that made the MBA line shine. There are many things to be disappointed in.

Having said that...

Maybe I'm way off base on this, but I think that the real reason for introducing Touch Bar was NOT to eliminate the function keys or as a gimmick but to dip their toe into introducing touch capabilities to macOS. I can see a future MBP that replaces the TrackPad with a Touch Pad that is essentially an iPhone screen.

If this was their motivation for the Touch Bar, then I applaud them for taking an intelligent, incremental step rather than leaping into the deep end of the pool approach that Microsoft took with Windows 8.0 and the Surface Pro.
 
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I feel like people aren't looking at the layout of the internals of the system. They needed more space, so they cut down on differing chips for exponential ports to save room so they can put battery there, among other things like better speakers.
Now you're just justifying their anorexic need to be thinner. They could have easily kept those ports without trying to create a knife-edge MBP.
 
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