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Apple totalize a net loss of more than 10% of its Market value from friday closing.

That's a SHAME.

Sounds like you may be new to investing.

Savvy investors will see this as a TERRIFIC buying opportunity. Check the stock price in a week and you'll see what I mean.
 
I'm little disappointed in no redesign. Oh well. Still going to get. Have the two year itch. MUST UPGRADE 3GS! :D

Boyeeee will you be ticked when the new iphone5 comes out next spring, and you still have a year and a half left on your 4s contract.
(you're going to miss out on the next 2 iphones if you sign rt now) :eek:
 
I would also like to know more about these download speeds between AT&T and Verizon.

Also, wonder if in real world use, you will be able to tell any difference from the current phone.

Verizon 4G/LTE is much faster for downloads than AT&T. Virtually every test I've seen confirms that. However, you do make a valid point. While the difference between 3G and 4G on Verizon is up to 10 times slower, the user experience, while noticeable, is nothing like that factor. Greater frequency of stuttering and cacheing issues with 3G. Somewhat slower load times for web pages, but not anything like what you might expect.

The biggest advantage of 4G/LTE at the moment is the fact that bottlenecks due to demand are almost non-existent. Whether that remains the case as more 4G devices go into service is another question.
 
All the non-mac websites that talk about the iphone have headlines like "iphone 5 deosn't happen" / "iphone 5 a no-show" / "no iphone 5 this year"

I have yet to see a single "yay for 4S" headline.

That doesn't scream good PR to me.
 
I don't care for the tapered case etc etc, I don't care about any of that, but the majority of the world was looking at Apple and waiting for the iPhone 5 to be released, and it wasn't, that's more what I'm saying, what was released was a mild spec bump that Apple tried to pass off as a completely new phone, when it really isn't.

"mild spec bump"?

-Faster data speeds
-A dual core, much faster CPU
-7 times faster GPU
-apparently more RAM
-a 64GB version
-a freaking f2.4 lens that shoots faster and sharper than any other smartphone on the planet

that Apple tried to pass off as a completely new phone, when it really isn't.

Yes, what tricksters those Cupertino charlatans are! A "completely new phone" named the iPhone 4s. Geeesshhh (palm slap).....
 
Almost an hour of self-promotion and puny updates, many copied from Samsung's fine Android phones, by Apple's own admission.

Celebrate! It's Antennagate Redux Part II.

If Apple can't even get a single antenna to work properly, this phones bound to be a real nightmare as it attempts to switch automatically between the two it now uses. Apple? You have GOT to be kidding.

Steve Jobs told us a Bold Face Lie... he asserted there is nothing wrong with the Antenna in iPhone 4, but rather it was the dummies that were holding it wrong.

Finally Apple unveiled its latest iPhone, a warmed over re-run to satisfy the Apple apologists. Or Not.

Classic... Apple is now NEARLY TWO YEARS Behind and still struggling.

Samsung is licking their chops over this Epic Fail. :eek:
 
"mild spec bump"?

-Faster data speeds
-A dual core, much faster CPU
-7 times faster GPU
-apparently more RAM
-a 64GB version
-a freaking f2.4 lens that shoots faster and sharper than any other smartphone on the planet



Yes, what tricksters those Cupertino charlatans are! A "completely new phone" named the iPhone 4s. Geeesshhh (palm slap).....


"faster data speeds"
you got a link to the speed tests, or are you speculating?

"apparently more RAM"
what?, apparent you say? got a link to the spec?


"a 64GB version"
paying $100 for 32g of storage is not a "spec bump", it's a ripoff, (android devices take cheap removable ram)

Dude, you an apple fanboy or what, (just honestly wondering)
 
"faster data speeds"
you got a link to the speed tests, or are you speculating?

"apparently more RAM"
what?, apparent you say? got a link to the spec?


"a 64GB version"
paying $100 for 32g of storage is not a "spec bump", it's a ripoff, (android devices take cheap removable ram)

Dude, you an apple fanboy or what, (just honestly wondering)

1) They're theoretical, but the difference is noticeable depending on the carrier and what "restrictions" you have on the phone.

2) It is a different type of storage. Internal flash is faster and costlier than flash that you can just "buy" in a stick.

Are you just ignorant or a troll?
 
To be honest, I'm pretty damn happy with this update.

I honestly couldn't care less whether they do a physical redesign or not. A screen size increase would be MARGINAL without having to make the unit larger, which would be a huge strike against them.

Creating a good upgrade often means figuring out what the biggest weak points are to the old, and fixing them, while keeping around the tried and true that really work. Look, I'm not a HUGE fan of the iPhone 4 case design I much prefer the 3G beveled design, it doesn't dig into your hands. But, from what I hear, most people who have an iPhone 4 really like that design. So, if I were apple, I would keep it around for a while longer. The areas the iPhone 4 was looking weak in were: A) Battery Life, B) Speed, and as much as many of us here don't care C) Camera usability. All three of these things were addressed, IN SPADES.

I had an original 3G, and then 12 months in, it suddenly died, and I had to get a new 3GS. I was pissed about spending the money at first, and I was mad that it didn't look any different from the 3G. Then I started using it, and WOW, what a difference. And over 2 years later, it's still 95% compatable with everything on the market, still completely usable. While the original 3G started getting phased out 18 months ago. Had I kept a 3G around for 2 years, I would have been SCREWED, but the 3GS still is quite usable after 2 years. But, the difference between a 3G and a 3GS is NOTHING compared to the vast difference between the 4 and 4S.

The 4 upgraded the screen and form factor from the 3GS, but not a lot of processing power, not a lot of battery power, so really, the 3GS is mostly an iPhone 4 with lower resolution. Meaning, in the modern world, the 3GS is a perfectly capable device. Where the real changes are is during the off years where they spend their energy upgrading the processing power. Meaning, the iPhone 4 is going to have an 18th month usable life (like the iPhone 3G), where the iPhone 4S will have a 30 month usable life (like the iPhone 3GS).

Trust me, if they had changed the appearence of the device, you would be ooing and aahhhhing so much, you wouldn't notice that they only marginally upgraded the hardware, just like they did with the 4. So, in some ways, it's better that they didn't. We're not going to get EVERYTHING.

I just bought a new MacBook Pro this year, on an off year. No physical redesign at all, huge processing increase. There was whining all over the place, I'm HAPPIER THAN A CLAM with the thing.

With 18 month contracts, only a very small percentage of the iPhone 4 owners would be upgrading, whether this be a 5, 5G, iPhone X, or whatever. Bottom line, the iPhone 4S is an upgrade for us iPhone 3GS users, not for you 4 users. And for us, it's awsome.

My ONLY dissapointment, is that they didn't put back in the stereo analog audio linein that they removed from the iPhone 4. I'm going to have to keep my 3GS around to be able to do stereo audio field recording. But I'm only 0.5% of the population who cares, so I wasn't expecting that.

If they keep doing this two year cycle, I'll be very happy, and it makes a lot of sense, seeing most people will only upgrade every two years.

Oh, and Siri is going to be absolutely revolutionary. Lol, I actually heard someone say, "People are going to look rediculous speaking to their phone." Isn't that what we already do, anyway? Who's going to notice the difference? If it makes it faster to write an email or essay on a cell phone than a desktop computer, I think that's a huge update...

Speaking of which, I wonder if they'll release Siri for Mac OS X. I'd love to have it on my Mac Book.
 
No iPhone 5 ha ha ha ha ha ha a! Just kidding! I love my 4 and I'm happy they haven't changed the style. The specs look great IMO and this is no minor refresh as many will whine and complain about! I wasn't planning on upgrading but if this phone is as advertised I WILL!

NOW can we all agree that the Apple lockdown on info leaks are a thing of the past? Everything pointed to a 4s rumor-wise and thats just what we got. It's hilarious the rampant conspiracy theories that surround Apple releases. Things are usually just as they appear and with Apple it's no different!
 
Almost an hour of self-promotion and puny updates, many copied from Samsung's fine Android phones, by Apple's own admission.
If that had any connection to reality, it would be Apple getting sued by Samsung for patent infringement instead of the other way around, now wouldn't it?

If Apple can't even get a single antenna to work properly, this phones bound to be a real nightmare as it attempts to switch automatically between the two it now uses. Apple? You have GOT to be kidding.

No question it will be an ""epic fail"... After all, you said so.

Steve Jobs told us a Bold Face Lie... he asserted there is nothing wrong with the Antenna in iPhone 4, but rather it was the dummies that were holding it wrong.

Ummm, the phrase is "bald face(d)", I believe. Please polish your attacks! ;-)

Classic... Apple is now NEARLY TWO YEARS Behind and still struggling.

Spot on. Apple is slitting their wrists over Sprint's commitment to purchase 30 million of these puppies.

Samsung is licking their chops over this Epic Fail. :eek:

Epic Fail, eh? Strong words. Care to quantify what "epic fail" will mean? Think this phone won't sell like hotcakes? REALLY??? :D
 
All the non-mac websites that talk about the iphone have headlines like "iphone 5 deosn't happen" / "iphone 5 a no-show" / "no iphone 5 this year"

I have yet to see a single "yay for 4S" headline.

That doesn't scream good PR to me.

I just went to the first non-tech site I thought of that would cover this, Guardian.co.uk, and here's their headline, against the 4 icons from the invitation, top and centre on their homepage:

"iPhone 4S launch
New CEO Tim Cook unveils Apple's latest gizmo
A slimmed-down, faster version of last year's iPhone 4 aims to cement Apple's as the world's largest phone maker by revenue"
 
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here comes a redesigned iphone 5 my friends :)

fail ;)
 
1) They're theoretical, but the difference is noticeable depending on the carrier and what "restrictions" you have on the phone.

2) It is a different type of storage. Internal flash is faster and costlier than flash that you can just "buy" in a stick.

Are you just ignorant or a troll?


Wow, you are very ignorant period and have no right attacking me!
(I wasn't the one to post speculation, and pass it off as fact)
 
I'm happy. I like the form factor of the 4 but wil rejoice in the better camera and faster processor. I can't wait as I'm putting my unlocked original iPhone to rest!:D

What about all that talk in the past about "anything over 5 mp's is a waste on a phone"? Seriously doesn't it matter now that it's on an iPhone?
 
"iPhone 4S launch
New CEO Tim Cook unveils Apple's latest gizmo
A slimmed-down, faster version of last year's iPhone 4 aims to cement Apple's as the world's largest phone maker by revenue"

Yeah, that's what I'm seeing too.

I wonder what percentage of the general population even knew about the iPhone 5 rumors, or cares.
 
So no voice navigation in iOS 5?? Still would have to rely on third-party apps..which could be hit or miss..
Anyways does anybody have any recommendations on good voice navigation app for iOS?? Preferably: Free
 
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