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Yep, I meant to say no noticeable mention in the Keynote. I was just depressed. Worst WWDC Keynote I can remember for developers. They should leave the marketing department at home for WWDC.
 
Yep, I meant to say no noticeable mention in the Keynote. I was just depressed. Worst WWDC Keynote I can remember for developers. They should leave the marketing department at home for WWDC.
Xcode is for kids now. I totally get it. Emoji animation and all.
(This is sarcasm)
 
I don't need a new OS. I would still be using Snow Leopard if it was possible. What I need is an updated Macbook Pro and a Mac Pro. How is it possible not upgrading these products for more than a year? Apple don't seem to give a damn about their pro users anymore who spent a fortune on hardware. This is so frustrating.

Because they are preparing you to use the iPad/Siri for development or with Swift 3 and its new build system you will use linux for development. Computers, nah, that is so old school. In the hip/Rap world you ain't got no need for them laptops and desktops.
 
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Let's see what iOS 10 brings to the table - no major leaks leave quite a lot of room for excitement!

Also for those installing the beta today, please share the default wallpaper at your earliest convenience :D

Here they are, from iDownloadBlog! Loving Sierra's new wallpapers.
 
My Mac Pro 2010 is one step away from being obsoleted by Apple, Its specs are:

* 12-Core Intel Xeon X5690 3.46 GHz (41.52 GHz!!!)
* NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB Graphics Card
* 128 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Memory
* 512 GB Samsung SM951 PCIe SSD
* BCM94360CD 802.11ac + Bluetooth LE 4.0
* RocketU 1144C 4 port USB 3.0

Its Geekbench score is around 30,000, which is faster than Apple's fastest and most expensive Mac Pro 2013. If they drop it in macOS 10.13 I'm going to be livid.
 
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So iPhone 4S and iPad 2 dropped for iOS 10.

Why?

Because the big emojis and tilt-to-view lock screen in iOS 10 are going to slow down the whole GD phone.

I learned my lesson in the past. I'm staying on iOS 9 on my 6 untill my phone dies.
 
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Swift playground if great. What's lame is that it was the last thing shown to a room full of adult devs. People were expecting apple to finish on a high.

Great thing to launch at an education keynote
I didn't mind having Swift Playground presented in the keynote, but it was because there was so little else that makes it seem out of place. The spent 25% of the keynote on iMessage and emojis.

Swift Playground is the Logo/Turtle Graphics for the 21st century. In that respect it is a good thing.

Reminds me of the problem with Apple's App Store restrictions having prevented apps that "run" code that has not been created on the device itself. (no exchanging of source code files) There was a fantastic boardgame engine called "EveryGame" that allowed the user to create all sorts of boardgames by writing in xhtml-like syntax. It was great until Apple stopped them.
 
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My Mac Pro 2010 is one step away from being obsoleted by Apple, Its specs are:

* 12-Core Intel Xeon X5690 3.46 GHz (41.52 GHz!!!)
* NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB Graphics Card
* 128 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Memory
* 512 GB Samsung SM951 PCIe SSD
* BCM94360CD 802.11ac + Bluetooth LE 4.0
* RocketU 1144C 4 port USB 3.0

Its Geekbench score is around 30,000, which is faster than Apple's fastest and most expensive Mac Pro 2013. If they drop it in macOS 10.13 I'm going to be livid.


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Ditto on the livid part. My Mac Pro 4,1 has now been obsoleted by Timmy & his crew even though I have kept it performing very nicely with upgrades. Damn these people.
 
I didn't mind having Swift Playground presented in the keynote, but it was because there was so little else that makes it seem out of place. The spent 25% of the keynote on iMessage and emojis.

Swift Playground is the Logo/Turtle Graphics for the 21st century. In that respect it is a good thing.

Reminds me of the problem with Apple's App Store restrictions having prevented apps that "run" code that has not been created on the device itself. (no exchanging of source code files) There was a fantastic boardgame engine called "EveryGame" that allowed the user to create all sorts of boardgames by writing in xhtml-like syntax. It was great until Apple stopped them.

Playground is a great idea. It was just a let down, at the end of the WWDC , when people were expecting "one more thing " .

Actually it was probably one of the top 3 things presented today . Guess most people were fed up with the iMessage crap by the time they showed playground
 
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Or hire performers to do the presentation. I was disappointed that she didn't actually strut. Next year, hire Lin-Manuel Miranda. He'll get all the words right, and entertain the crowd. Plus he still appeals to Mathletes.

Or have female models do the presentation.
 
Good grief there is never a time in Apple's history where it didn't need to do [insert thing here] or it was doomed. Today is no different than any other day. Case in point the stock didn't tank today; it opened down about 1% (stock market in general is down today) and stayed there ever since.

We will see what happens tomorrow but opening up there walled garden like they have may be enough to keep investors.
 
The only announcement (or lack of) that I was disappointed by was no p2p Apple Pay, especially when they covered p2p payments within iMessage.
 
Really surprised there were zero hardware announcements, but at least that leaves the door open for some surprises in the coming weeks. But zero hardware at WWDC? It really is a software developer week.

Please, please, please let some fancy new hardware blow the tops off the industry!
Well, they don't announce hardware at WWDC, so no surprises there. If you go back and watch WWDC15 or 14 you'll find that they used them to announce upcoming OS X, watchOS and iOS versions and demo their features. Hardware events are in March, September and occasionally October.

I think part of the negative reaction is a delayed reaction to the lacklustre March event, where they introduced new Watch bands, the iPhone SE and the iPad Pro 9.7". Plus a long video about recycling, somewhat fittingly given that the "new" products felt a bit... recycled. A phone based on the same general design introduced in 2012 with the iPhone 5. A shrunken iPad Pro 12.9 (or a spiced up iPad Air 2 - take your pick).

In other words, Apple hasn't offered any reason to get out of bed since the 6s/ATV4/iPad Pro event last September.
 
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Apple have become seriously stale. What used to set them apart: Stability and Hardware quality.

On stability: Their software has become buggy as hell, when was the last time their OS came out stable? You look at pure android and their are almost zero bugs and most applications actually work and don't need much updating.
Not only that but IOS actually looks worse IMHO from a design point of view.

Hardware: There hardware looks outdated for the price, and the competitors have caught up (and some have even surpassed) in terms of build quality.
 
Guess I'm just getting old, but the message updates are garbage. Must be a millennial thing. I don't care about stupid effects on my messages. Now i just have to worry about receiving that crap from someone, I'm certainly not gonna be sending it out.
 
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Man, I was looking for a MBP update. What a bummer. I guess now only after summer we will see something. I really do not want to buy the current crop.
Apple is really dropping the ball on hardware updates. The current Mac Line up is so outdated is not even funny.
 
What a disappointment!

I don’t want “stickies” or jiggling emoticons in Messages, I want a Mail app that can show my mail from Gmail instantly like every other email client has been able to do for several years. I gave up my Blackberry for an iPhone and the email on that several years ago was more instantaneous than on the Mail app on my iPhone today.

I don’t want more gimmicks in Photos, i want the iPhoto and Aperture features I still use included in the app so that it actually replaces the apps that were withdrawn to make way for it (and its limitations).

It’s depressing when a feature on Apple Music that just tells you what f*cking music is actually on your phone was the most exciting thing.

The watchOS 3 features seem genuinely what users will find useful every day, and there are a few quality improvements in macOS and iOS but otherwise it was just another example of over 2 hours to present another handful of features that seem focused on school age One Direction fans rather than the longterm users of Apple’s products and ecosystem.
 
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My Mac Pro 2010 is one step away from being obsoleted by Apple, Its specs are:

* 12-Core Intel Xeon X5690 3.46 GHz (41.52 GHz!!!)
* NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB Graphics Card
* 128 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Memory
* 512 GB Samsung SM951 PCIe SSD
* BCM94360CD 802.11ac + Bluetooth LE 4.0
* RocketU 1144C 4 port USB 3.0

Its Geekbench score is around 30,000, which is faster than Apple's fastest and most expensive Mac Pro 2013. If they drop it in macOS 10.13 I'm going to be livid.
You should be good until 2018 I'm guessing (or 10.14). Typing this on an '08 and El Cap is the last official release for it... I wonder why '09 got the shaft for 10.12 as well?

Dammit Apple, if you're going to kill the Mac Pro, just do it already. Makes you wonder if the 2013 Mac Pro was just a rouse.
 
The Dock is a major user interface element effecting everybody's workflow. Try to say the same about Mickey Mouse stickers in Messages. I want them to polish minor annoyances which might look trivial on stage, but make for a refined user experience. But I'm no longer sure if all the changes to iOS make for a better experience.

Good point, and that's a great example of what I mean. Yes the Dock is important, but I picked apart portions of that keynote, in a similar way that people are target fixating on trivial aspects of Apple software updates introduced in this keynote.

A good portion of these keynotes are to show off UI changes (sometimes trivial) that devs can incorporate into their own apps, or UI.

AAPL dropped more than twice the DJIA - not good - Wall Street continues to speak. Your referencing the market down today was an attempt (IMO - nice try) to distance AAPL stock drop as not being driven by another poor set of announcements from WWDC.

I am not attempting to distance anything. I am dealing in facts, while you are busy posturing. I asked someone else if down 1.35% is hitting the floor, and followed up with the fact that most markets are down today. Read into it however you like.
 
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