Logic Pro X 10.5 Released With Live Loops, New Beat-Making Tools, and More

[ekwipt]

While live looper is cool, for me the best new features are the Sampler upgrades and drum grid sequencers!

 

[mdriftmeyer]

That can't be right. I don't have the update yet - but will check when it arrives. EXS24 has been a backbone for many years - unless Sampler completely subsumes it and seamlessly gives the same results?

Sampler replaced EXS24 and all EXS24 presets are preserved. It's much better.

 

[DeepIn2U]

Apple turned Logic into Ableton! Start your photocopiers Cupertino!

Apple battles Ableton Live with new Logic Pro X 10.5 features

Live Loops, Step Sequencer, and new Sampler tools headline the update.

arstechnica.com

I highly doubt Ableton can compare to the full swath of features and capability of Logic Pro.
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Sampler replaced EXS24 and all EXS24 presets are preserved. It's much better.

Curious ... how is Sampler better than EXS24 ?

 

[trusso]

Logic Pro for Mac release notes - Apple Support

Learn about the enhancements and improvements in the most recent versions of Logic Pro for Mac.

support.apple.com

That’s the longest patch notes I’ve ever read.

It's almost as if the Logic Pro team isn't constrained by arbitrary deadlines and marketing. Instead, they can focus on crafting solid, bug-free software with thorough documentation and release notes.

What a novel idea!

 

[mdriftmeyer]

Apple battles Ableton Live with new Logic Pro X 10.5 features

Live Loops, Step Sequencer, and new Sampler tools headline the update.

arstechnica.com

I highly doubt Ableton can compare to the full swath of features and capability of Logic Pro.
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Curious ... how is Sampler better than EXS24 ?

I'll just leave this here to marinate on. The Zone section is not shown until you click on it and it's a whole other bundle of joy. The Synth is completely non-confusing and nothing is a Where's Waldo Feeling anymore.

 

[musicus]

I am still waiting with the update because Sampler replaces EXS24. It disappears from the list. So backwards compatibility is compromised already which might be an issue for some.

This kind of stuff can break your perfectly running setup sometimes. I have about 200GB of my own EXS libraries which I don't wanna lose. A GUI update would have been sufficient for me.

From Apple's release notes: "Sampler ... Supports all existing EXS24 instruments."

 

[logics8]

Great to see what looks like a major update to a pro application.

I wish Apple wasn't so schizophrenic on the pro-side of things.

I just don't understand what Apple is actually trying to do in "Pro". They went from not releasing a professional workstation in 6 years to releasing a monster that doesn't make sense for many levels of professionals... even though many of their highest-end professionals left the platform when they couldn't get their act together on hardware for years on end.

Then I look at other applications that I use, like Motion, and its barely been updated in a decade -- I'd be willing to pay more for a more useful application, After Effects has kept getting more advanced while it seems like Apple is letting Motion wither and die. And as others have already mentioned about Aperture. I'm hoping such a big update to Logic Pro suggests maybe they've reinvested in FCPX/Motion as well.

Its hard to invest in a "pro" platform when you can't tell from one day to the next if the vendor is actually committed to it

Yeah... I really with motion got a worthy upgrade after getting rid of final cut studio and everything of that sort.


They really need to integrate all of their pro apps together though.

I hate having to export final cut to logic and resync it back together. Then send to motion for FX and back to FCP for editing.

 

[Techwatcher]

It’s funny, I’ve been a Logic Pro user for years and switched to Ableton Live a while back. Now Logic Pro has become Ableton live. Great lol.

 

[ErikGrim]

I’m pretty sure it’s been heavily optimised for exporting. Bouncing out the wet Ocean Eyes tracks into individual 24 bit wavs took no time at all on my six year old iMac :O

 

[Joosst]

BAD NEWS: Found the first feature they completely removed which I was using all the time. It adjusts the velocity range of your instrument. I can not find it in the controls of Sampler (even not under "details").

Easy, easy. Just because you can't find it on your first try doesn't mean it's gone. I found it for you It's, quite understandably, under 'Mapping'. Cheers!

 

[Doc69]

The value you're getting from Logic Pro X is incredible, I bought it when it was released and it just gets better and better.

Yeah, the value today is incredible. I bought Logic for the first time in 1994, then called 'Logic Audio', and have since spent several thousand dollars on it. Before Apple bought Emagic, and bundled everything, you paid for individual instruments and effects as well. I remember paying $600 for the Space Designer plug-in alone when it came out. And now you can get the whole shebang for only $199! It's really remarkable.

 

[Nicky G]

Guys, of course they will. What will almost 100% not work is opening an arrangement using Sampler on an older machine using EXS24. That's what I meant. Can someone try that out?

Can I ask why you would have any expectation that this would work or be a reliable workflow? Opening project files made with a newer version of a pro application than the version you’re using is generally a no-no.

 

[-DMN-]

• It is now possible to use the key command to toggle the Metronome on/off during recording.
• ITS ABOUT DAMN TIME

 

[user_xyz]

Thanks Apple!!

Logic Pro is probably the Best piece of pro software that apple has!! Now even better.

It's why I just spent $2,000.00 on a Mac just for Logic!!

 

[R3k]

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[HackMacDaddy]

Easy, easy. Just because you can't find it on your first try doesn't mean it's gone. I found it for you It's, quite understandably, under 'Mapping'. Cheers!

Thanks my man! Will check it out.
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Can I ask why you would have any expectation that this would work or be a reliable workflow? Opening project files made with a newer version of a pro application than the version you’re using is generally a no-no.

This is a viable scenario since not all studios update their systems all the time to the latest OS and therefore latest DAW versions. I am still on Mojave and will stay on it until we get a stable OS.

Since EXS got replaced by Sampler I was scared that new arrangements could not open on older systems because they simply dont have Sampler in their plugin list. But I made the test yesterday and indeed the older Logic version interprets what was done in Sampler and opens it up in EXS24.I‘ve never seen anything like this before. The norm is: plugin does not exist->not loading.

 

[Substance90]

Damn, that looks sweet but it’s too late. I couldn’t resist 30% off Ableton Suite + Push 2.

 

[miscend]

Apple battles Ableton Live with new Logic Pro X 10.5 features

Live Loops, Step Sequencer, and new Sampler tools headline the update.

arstechnica.com

I highly doubt Ableton can compare to the full swath of features and capability of Logic Pro.

I doubt Ableton have anything to worry about. This is only lite version of Ableton Live style loop sequencing.

 

[carambo]

It’s funny, I’ve been a Logic Pro user for years and switched to Ableton Live a while back. Now Logic Pro has become Ableton live. Great lol.

Live Loops in Logic is just a gadget compare to the full version of Live... Ableton has nothing to worry about, to the contrary many Logic users might enjoy playing with loops and then switch to the real thing, Live !

 

[MVMNT]

Support below Mojave has been dropped.

Is this Apple making a push-like interface for the iPad now?

Is this Apple making you want to buy an iPad to get all the features of Logic now?

 

[R3k]

Is this Apple making you want to buy an iPad to get all the features of Logic now?

Nope. macOS version of Logic has all features.

iPad app is a companion app. Actually good value as many people who would have bought a 3rd party control surface may just opt to put the app on an iPad they already own.

 

[ErikGrim]

Live Loops in Logic is just a gadget compare to the full version of Live... Ableton has nothing to worry about, to the contrary many Logic users might enjoy playing with loops and then switch to the real thing, Live !

Could you give me some examples of what Live does better? Genuinely curious

 

[dspdoc]

It's almost as if the Logic Pro team isn't constrained by arbitrary deadlines and marketing. Instead, they can focus on crafting solid, bug-free software with thorough documentation and release notes.

What a novel idea!

Funny, cause I’m reading reports all over the place about 10.5 being a disaster with a ton of 3rd party plug-ins. Apparently it’s crash city. Not good at all. It’s almost as though Apple could care less about developers.

 

[Techwatcher]

Live Loops in Logic is just a gadget compare to the full version of Live... Ableton has nothing to worry about, to the contrary many Logic users might enjoy playing with loops and then switch to the real thing, Live !

Sounds good! Would hope so because I actually enjoy Ableton Live far more than Logic Pro.

 

[Sandman118]

I'm working on a 3,5 year old Macbook Pro (Nov 2016, so it was the first one with the horrible butterfly keys) with the High Sierra 10.13.6 version. Is there really no way to update my Logic to 10.5? I read the update is not compatible with my version, which is a real shame, considering the fact I spent 3500 euros and the laptop ain't even that old.
I really feel gutted, as I'm still working hours in Logic each day. Is there really no way to get to Logic 10.5 with my laptop, without going for a new laptop?