I'm sorry, but that has got to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever read on these forums. It's lake saying "I'm not going to eat at my favorite restaurant anymore because they started giving away free dessert with any dinner I purchase"
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Logic Pro X and MainStage Updated With Alchemy Integration From Recent Acquisition
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I'm sorry, but that has got to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever read on these forums. It's lake saying "I'm not going to eat at my favorite restaurant anymore because they started giving away free dessert with any dinner I purchase"
LOL
I absolutely agree. My first reaction was "Oh no, first Fender, now Apple!!1!1!"
Maybe it's just my imagination, but I feel like I'm detecting overt racism in these posts about not buying Logic Pro now because Apple added new hip-hop centered features. I don't personally care for hip-hop music, but I'm finding the implied innuendo disturbing to say the least. I had no trouble making a rock album with Logic Pro from a few years ago, let alone having banks of new synthesizer sounds and engines at no charge. Logic Pro has something for everyone and I've yet to see features removed, unlike Final Cut Pro. If you don't like a new FREE feature, don't use it.
Sorry, I was trying to make fun of the non-point that the quoted poster was trying to make - I totally agree, I find it incredibly stupid to not buy a product because it includes features that I personally might not be interested in using.
(And I'm a logic user as well, metal guitar stuff, mostly)
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Id say Logic X, for the amount of stuff it comes with, as well as its capabilities, is more than fair at $199.
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/search.php?s=cubase 8
Alchemy alone was $250, before Apple bought it.
Then sell support, not the app. People who need the support will shell out a few $K for it, I imagine.
People who need the app will gladly pay the bargain basement price of $200 for it, see how it works?
No joke. $200 is peanuts compared to the thousands spent on Albion, NI and Symphobia libraries. Lol
Yup. I spent three times that on a couple of new plugins last week, probably don't really need them either.
Yeah, Apple buys a business, integrates the functionality in Logic and will subsequently discontinue it the next year. That is a solid reasoning skill you have there.
I absolutely agree. My first reaction was "Oh no, first Fender, now Apple!!1!1!"
I have nothing against rap or good rappers. It's a genre of it's own, however I don't understand Apple is stupid americano-centric focus on it.
But EDM? This is not a genre, there are almost no EDM festivals outside of the US, this is both disgusting music, disgusting culture, disgusting public and disgusting business.
And Apple focuses on it?
Not, it's not about Camel Alchemy, it's about supporting and displaying EDM and Hip-Hop as the two target genre to be produced and featuring the presentation page with horrible false trap, dubstep and tech-house sound.
We're talking about professional tools and software targeted at people who supposedly produce and know music.
Except EDM these genre are an absolute disgrace, for any DAW, brand, or platform to condone, and here we're talking about Apple??
The company that use to never sponsors anything to respect the marketing 101 rule of never compromising your image by associating with other things that are not neutral.
I could to a whole anti-Apple Music campaign just out of this screenshot if I was a concurrent company! It'd be effective as **** if people saw Apple associate itself with EDM, Trap, Tech-House, Dubstep and all those disgusting genre for a minority of american couch potato teens...
And the best one out there in my opinion. It kicks the but of FL Studio or Pro Tools. Plus, running MachFive 3 inside lets me se any sound I want from anything ever pretty much. I'm big in to older synth stuff (see HERE) so this is very very cool for me!
Woah, a lot of EDM Hate! I mean I'm not a fan either, but I can appreciate that those features are aimed at converting some Ableton, Bitwig, FL Studio users to (or back to) Logic. Business always come back to growth, the more people invested in Logic's workflow the more people buying new Macs every 5 years.
Also $200 is a steal, you could go to Abbey Road Studios and they'll be using that same version of Logic, it's the Mac Pro it's running on that Apple make money on. (I think Abbey Road actually uses pro tools, but you get my point)
Also $200 is a steal, you could go to Abbey Road Studios and they'll be using that same version of Logic, it's the Mac Pro it's running on that Apple make money on. (I think Abbey Road actually uses pro tools, but you get my point)
I agree that $200 is a great price for a full-featured DAW like Logic. I paid $124 in December 2013 for Alchemy alone, and that was a really good holiday sale price. If Alchemy rolled in all their add-on libraries (which usually sold for around $50 each) into this new Logic version that's a tremendous deal. The new Alchemy UI update looks super slick, too.
Kind of amused by all the sweeping generalizations about hip-hop and EDM. Logic can be used to make any style of music, and so can Fender's products and instruments.
Kind of amused by all the sweeping generalizations about hip-hop and EDM. Logic can be used to make any style of music, and so can Fender's products and instruments.
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I see nothing wrong with apple turning focus to electronic music - after all, there is alot of it now adays - at least in europe. EDM is just a bad name for the genre, it doesn't necessarily have to be all the euro trance tiesto stuff - unfortunately some people use the EDM name for electronic music as a whole, which i think is what apple is doing here
Get a grip and breathe.
How are they focusing on it? It's a feature they're advertising. You have to go from the main Logic page, to "What's New", then scroll half way down the page to find the content that offends you so much. Hardly front and centre focus. In fact they actually say it helps fill out the feature set in their wording: "EDM and Hip Hop round out the bill in Logic Pro X".
Also EDM is enjoyed at festivals globally:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electronic_music_festivals#2013.E2.80.932015
When I don't like something, I just ignore it. Hence your addition to my block list.
You really should do the same with Logic and focus on the parts you like.
EDM is a growing segment of the music industry. You don't have to like it, just as I don't particularly like metal, but I do respect others that enjoy it and the effort the artists put into making that type of music.
There are plenty of EDM professionals, earning big money for their work. http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackoma...-highest-paid-djs-electronic-cash-kings-2015/
Your derogatory comments about people who enjoy EDM are actually disgusting. (And I'm not an American couch potato teen, nor am I huge on EDM either).
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As the quoted posts were deleted this now looks a little lost. Ha.
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Whatever happened to tolerance, this is Apple selling a product. It has nothing to do with genre you mentioned, one that others, including the media have made popular with some people.
FWIW, it works fine for me, also on the latest beta of El Cap'. I just played with the Alchemy plug for a few minutes for the first time as well. This isn't my main DAW though, it's my general purpose iMac and I don't have very many fancy plugins or any "real" audio hardware installed.
I'm a classically trained composer and have a BA from Audio engineering. I own Cubase 7.5 and ProTools 11, and I frequently work in Adobe Audition.
And I don't get one bit where your elitism stems from.
How is Logic being versatile harming it as a professional tool? I still rather edit in Logic Pro X than in PT11 since I find Flex-time Slicing by far the most reliable method of multi-track synced editing than any that competition offers.
And why do you think you're entitled to judge other music genres as "disgusting genre for a minority of american couch potato teens"?
Should we all listen and produce one kind of music?
Apple is making software with professional capacity thats very approachable by amateurs and hobbyists. As long as it gets the job done (and is better than competition at it!) I don't care who they market it for. When they start neglecting professional features, then I'll start complaining.
Genre elitism is the worst. EDM music scene is huge, one of the largest growing music scenes.
Which feature are you missing?