That seems... complicated. And risky. Call me paranoid, but the idea of having a network cable relatively easily accissible outside my home just sets all sorts of anxiety. Yes, you can cordon the port off and yes it would take a lot to actually hack into it. But to me, that's presenting an invitiation on my own front porch that I'd rather not present.
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Logitech Circle View Doorbell With HomeKit Secure Video Launches at Apple
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Holy moly you have some serious patience!
Not only did it come out 1.5 years late, but it was finally released with the "promise" that it's biggest feature - HomeKit integration - will come later.
That's what August said about their doorbell that I bought many, many years ago.... what they did several years later is remove all reference to that feature ever coming, it never happened. Not saying that will happen in Netatmo's case, but heaven forbid am I ever falling for that again!
Logitech have just won me over.
Not a plug in, no. But they do require a wired power connection. Which is what I'm getting at. I should have used different wording.
Tried to find it, seems even the Canadians can't get it.
Logitech has limited geographical scope for other products in the past (e.g. getting the MX keys in US layout can't be done unless you go to very shady sources or have family or good friends in the US - esp. with not being allowed to travel due to covid -)
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It's wired using 16V doorbell transformer. If you have an old school wired doorbell, this would be powered off of that transformer.
Live streaming is available without iCloud storage plan for as many cameras as you want. With 200GB plan you get 1 camera able to save clips recorded when motion detected. For 2TB you get 5 cameras able to save clips recorded when motion detected. You can choose all motion or specific things like cars people pets. Recording length of the clip is as long as there is motion. So once motion stops the clip ends.
Frickin' finally.
The Robin ProLine is way too expensive, and the Yobi B3 is absolute garbage (and their customer service is even more garbage than their product.)
I have a Logitech Circle 2 camera as a home security cam with HomeKit Secure Video, and it's excellent. Just ordered this, and will report on it when it arrives. (I went for the pro install because our doorbell wires are so short on the exterior of the house that I don't want to mess with them. I'll let the pro splice in extensions.)
The Robin ProLine is way too expensive, and the Yobi B3 is absolute garbage (and their customer service is even more garbage than their product.)
I have a Logitech Circle 2 camera as a home security cam with HomeKit Secure Video, and it's excellent. Just ordered this, and will report on it when it arrives. (I went for the pro install because our doorbell wires are so short on the exterior of the house that I don't want to mess with them. I'll let the pro splice in extensions.)
Yes this is the doorbell I have been looking for! Ordered will self install this weekend.
I ordered it as well, but I wonder if there is any info on minimum and maximum height requirements for this doorbell.
There is more information on Logitech website
CIRCLE VIEW DOORBELL
Shop Circle View. Features head-to-toe HD optics, Face Recognition, color night vision, high dynamic range sensor, 2-way talk, secure video & more
Well, I didn't know this site existed until I googled "doorbell height":
How High to Install a Video Doorbell: Best Height for Most Perfect Angle
Check the best height to install Ring, Nest, etc. video doorbells to identify a person’s face and read license plates. Make the most out of your smart doorbell easily!
doorbellexpert.com
I expect the Logi is typical but you might want to review the Logi site for this detail.
Just sell your current ones. You only pay the difference. I can’t expect it to be that much.
which things are you wanting improved? I tried HSV and thought it was terrible just to try to see events that occurred. We have 3 nest cams and 1 doorbell and the software is just too great to give it up. Curious on your thoughts.
Same here. If I didn’t already have a Ring Pro I’d order pronto. Maybe when my year of Ring service expires.
Awesome, are you buying one? I can't wait for the reviews to come in.
Netatmo fumbled the ball regarding HomeKit Secure video.
It's about 2 years ago they promised HKSV for their Presence cameras, and its still not here.
The only benefit the Netatmo doorbell currently has is that you can save more than 10 days of data (if you add a bigger SD card).
As far as I know Apple HomeKit Secure video doesn't allow you to store more than 10 days, even if you have enough iCloud space is available. Sometimes you'll want more, as you want to be able to look at older videos when someone steals your stuff, or something else bad happened. (To check if they visited /scouted the house before, maybe leaving more clues for identification)
My circle 2 on HSV is so disappointing. The HSV interface is really buggy when playing back clips, but more importantly, I get big patches where the camera just misses stuff, despite set to record on any motion. It missed an actual crime on my road last year!
Too unreliable for security.
In the context you describe, absolutely correct, a wired power source, whether it is a doorbell transformer, a step down transformer plugged into a wall outlet, or simply line level 110v from a junction box.
The Ring Elite doorbell is POE, but despite that, unfortunately doesn't offer any great performance advantage over the Pro, being that it still relies on Wi-Fi for data, which many Ring users will tell you, can be frustratingly inconsistent. It's mostly a sleeker-looking version of the Pro, meant for a more integrated, permanent solution.
My wife and I use Nest Cams as baby monitors and sometimes we’re watching separately so I need to ability to watch the live feed from two devices at the same time. And like you said HSV past event viewing is terrible compared to Nest’s. I think I had other complaints but I can’t remember them now.
that's cool. i would love to rid myself of Nest, but i just can't. It's that good IMO. Past event viewing on HSV was an absolute joke. It would take me 20-30 seconds to scroll through an entire day real quick on Nest to see if anyone walked up our driveway or front door. 20-30 seconds on HSV takes me through just 1 little clip lol. I don't know how anyone is using it.
I'm stuck with a Ring Pro and man would I like to ditch the $3 monthly fee and replace it with this thing, but $200 to replace a working product is more than I can justify.
One question I have about this that I don't usually see answered is how quickly the mechanical doorbell ring responds when you push the button.
When I first got the Ring Pro I hated it because there was a 2-5 second delay between when the person pushed the button and the physical doorbell went "ding" despite being hardwired, so it failed at the most fundamental task of a doorbell. Best I could tell, it had to check in with the server before it would ring the bell, since it was always at the same time as the phone app would chime.
To Amazon's credit, they must have pushed a firmware update that fixed this over the last few months, because it seems to work correctly now (the bell rings immediately and the app sometimes lags by several seconds).
One question I have about this that I don't usually see answered is how quickly the mechanical doorbell ring responds when you push the button.
When I first got the Ring Pro I hated it because there was a 2-5 second delay between when the person pushed the button and the physical doorbell went "ding" despite being hardwired, so it failed at the most fundamental task of a doorbell. Best I could tell, it had to check in with the server before it would ring the bell, since it was always at the same time as the phone app would chime.
To Amazon's credit, they must have pushed a firmware update that fixed this over the last few months, because it seems to work correctly now (the bell rings immediately and the app sometimes lags by several seconds).
I wouldn’t mind saving the $12 a month that I’m paying for Nest, especially since I’m already paying for an iCloud storage plan. HSV just isn’t there yet for my usage. Hopefully someday soon though.
Apple does allow more than 5 camera with HKSV. They just only allow 5 to be recording at the same time. I have more than 5 and I can manage which ones record and which ones stream easily.