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In the context you describe, absolutely correct, a wired power source, whether it is a doorbell transformer, a step down transformer plugged into a wall outlet, or simply line level 110v from a junction box.

The Ring Elite doorbell is POE, but despite that, unfortunately doesn't offer any great performance advantage over the Pro, being that it still relies on Wi-Fi for data, which many Ring users will tell you, can be frustratingly inconsistent. It's mostly a sleeker-looking version of the Pro, meant for a more integrated, permanent solution.
Not true. I have several Elites and the data goes over the Ethernet cable, which is why I bought them.
 
My circle 2 on HSV is so disappointing. The HSV interface is really buggy when playing back clips, but more importantly, I get big patches where the camera just misses stuff, despite set to record on any motion. It missed an actual crime on my road last year!
Too unreliable for security.
Huh. I haven't had any problems except for one that was of my own doing - I used two USB extension cords since the Circle's cord wasn't long enough, and my extension cords weren't weatherproof and failed. (The connection between the two extension cords corroded. I replaced the two with one single weatherproof USB extension cord, and it has been great ever since.)

I also have a Wyze cam, but it doesn't have native HomeKit support. It's decent, but I like the HSV support of the Circle. (I do have a beta Wyze firmware loaded and third-party software running on a computer in my house that makes the Wyze show up in Home, but not with HSV, just as a plain live-only cam. I have to use the Wyze app for playback.)

I will reiterate that the Yobi B3 is absolute trash, though. No HSV, just live-view only, such a long delay for notifications that by the time something happens, you've probably already missed it, super unreliable WiFi (in spite of being less than 10 feet from my WiFi access point, while my Logitech Circle 2 is about 50 feet from the access point and has zero WiFi issues,) and two of them died within a couple days of install - and after the second one failed, their support just stopped responding to me. Had to file a complaint with my credit card company to get a refund. (And it took two months just to get the first one replaced.)
 
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What would be REALLY cool is if Apple opened up Face ID / Touch ID to third-party IoT devices like this. I can envision a future where my doorbell detects I'm there and just opens the door. Sure, there are a couple of smart doorbells that have tried this with their own scanning technology, but I trust Apple a lot more in terms of security and efficacy in implementing biometric scanning.
OR Apple just sank some of their billions of dollars into developing the items themselves? I would love to have an Apple router again, as well as some other items like a smart door-lock.
 
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I really want this but my house didn’t have a wired doorbell. Anyone know of a way to hook this up without spending a lot of 💰 getting an electrician to come out?
 
Wouldn’t i have to drill into wall and run wire to a transformer?
It’s a bit more complicated than the other response if you’re wanting professional looking results with a transformer connected to your electrical box. Not a good first home electric project to take on if you have little to no experience. There are videos galore on how to do it on YouTube and you can ensure some degree of safety by using a non contact voltage reader to ensure anything you’re about to touch has indeed been shut off.

A easier and safer solution for someone with little to no experience would be to buy a 2 plug transformer off Amazon and plug it into an outlet. Paint the wire so it blends in and then put a decorative plant or piece of furniture to cover the wire.
 
The question is how good is the motion detection. Ring flags everything which is great. Homekit SV logic tech view camera doesn’t flag everything my doorbell does, especially car drive-bys at late hours. Logitech told me it was because there’s a missing sensor in Circle View that Circle 2 has. I wonder if this doorbell has the right sensors.
 
It’s a bit more complicated than the other response if you’re wanting professional looking results with a transformer connected to your electrical box. Not a good first home electric project to take on if you have little to no experience. There are videos galore on how to do it on YouTube and you can ensure some degree of safety by using a non contact voltage reader to ensure anything you’re about to touch has indeed been shut off.

A easier and safer solution for someone with little to no experience would be to buy a 2 plug transformer off Amazon and plug it into an outlet. Paint the wire so it blends in and then put a decorative plant or piece of furniture to cover the wire.
Why would you want to run the doorbell directly into a transformer mounted in the breaker box? Just plug the transformer into any outlet easily reached via wire (cheap).

$20 for a transformer and $10 worth of wire, plus an hour of your time and you'll be up and running. Zero danger.
 
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Why would you want to run the doorbell directly into the breaker box? Just use a transformer and plug it into any outlet easily reached via wire (cheap).

$20 for a transformer and $10 worth of wire, plus an hour of your time and you'll be up and running.
Read my whole reply pal.

and most traditional transformers are wired to your electric box.
 
I read your whole reply. You didn't answer my question.
“A easier and safer solution for someone with little to no experience would be to buy a 2 plug transformer off Amazon and plug it into an outlet. Paint the wire so it blends in and then put a decorative plant or piece of furniture to cover the wire.”

and this is a traditional transformer:
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A professional electrician would follow the above diagram that connects a transformer to the AC mains. As I said, it was a professional approach that you would receive if you hired an electrician.

Some people want professional results for their home projects.

nice edit on your post BTW.

didn’t realize this thread would turn into teaching others on electrical work. Wow!
 
I had 2 of the newest Logitech cameras that will only work with Homekit and I have to say it was not that great and not worth the price, watching recorded video was hit or miss, I had Wyze cam's before and then went to Logitech for Homekit but I went back to Wyze and they are a lot cheaper, yes but I have had no issues and there outdoor camera system is amazing, it was a lot of money just to go back to what worked before or an expensive test, just my opinion, thanks
My experience with homekit video has been similar. Have several nest cameras on the exterior of my home that I’ve had no problems with.

Bought the Logitech circle view 2 to check out homekit video and also because no annual subscription fees seemed attractive.

Attempting to view the homekit video history is often a tedious task that sometimes just doesn’t work. Trying to find a specific clip among many is difficult. Clicking the next or previous clip often doesn’t play automatically. Sometimes hitting the play button gets it going. Other times that doesn’t work.

The lack of 24/7 recording was sorely missed when I realized how often the camera didn’t detect movement when it should have. Also encountered a few times were the video stopped recording even though there was still movement going on.

Nest also seems to handle notifications better. If my nest cam sees me in my driveway washing my car, I’ll get an initial notification but then it seems to smartly squelch subsequent notifications related to the same activity. The circle view 2 / HKSV on the other hand, would hammer me with notification after notification, every minute or so.
 
Not true. I have several Elites and the data goes over the Ethernet cable, which is why I bought them.
You're correct, my mistake.

My impression of the Elite was probably colored by the lack of enthusiasm for it, in the sea of complaints about the other models, not even as a panacea. The original $500 price tag may have had contributed to that, but even after the price cut to $350, some may struggle to find the value in the wired data connection.
 
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I received mine today and got it installed tonight. I originally had the Ring Pro, then Nest Doorbell, and just swapped out the Nest to the Logitech. I am also fully invested in HomeKit so I like having all native HomeKit support. Before I go further, yes I also use HomeBridge/Hoobs with the Nest Cam plugin so I can see the Nest doorbell in HomeKit.

The first thing I noticed was the aspect ratio of the Logitech. I never had to use the angle mount for my Ring Pro or Nest and it could see my entire pouch. Not so with the Logitech. It's almost like it was rotated 90 degree, which is why they advertised "head to toe" footage. I can see more top and bottom than my previous doorbells. Anyways I changed to the included angle mount and now I get a complete view.

Onto HomeKit integration - if I want to view the live footage, it's fast, much faster than Nest and Ring. It's almost as quick as my POE/hardwired SynologyNVR camera system. With Nest and Ring you have to open their app and wait for the connection to establish. Even with HomeBridge there's a significant delay before the video starts streaming for my Nest.

I have a hardwired dome camera on my pouch so all my video doorbells are just to complement my setup. For my own purpose, this logitech doorbell seems to work better than my previous doorbells. I need to spend more time with this doorbell to see how well notifications and recordings work.

Lastly I think the Nest doorbell still feels more premium and solid.
 
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I received mine today and got it installed tonight. I originally had the Ring Pro, then Nest Doorbell, and just swapped out the Nest to the Logitech. I am also fully invested in HomeKit so I like having all native HomeKit support. Before I go further, yes I also use HomeBridge/Hoobs with the Nest Cam plugin so I can see the Nest doorbell in HomeKit.

The first thing I noticed was the aspect ratio of the Logitech. I never had to use the angle mount for my Ring Pro or Nest and it could see my entire pouch. Not so with the Logitech. It's almost like it was rotated 90 degree, which is why they advertised "head to toe" footage. I can see more top and bottom than my previous doorbells. Anyways I changed to the included angle mount and now I get a complete view.

Onto HomeKit integration - if I want to view the live footage, it's fast, much faster than Nest and Ring. It's almost as quick as my POE/hardwired SynologyNVR camera system. With Nest and Ring you have to open their app and wait for the connection to establish. Even with HomeBridge there's a significant delay before the video starts streaming for my Nest.

I have a hardwired dome camera on my pouch so all my video doorbells are just to complement my setup. For my own purpose, this logitech doorbell seems to work better than my previous doorbells. I need to spend more time with this doorbell to see how well notifications and recordings work.

Lastly I think the Nest doorbell still feels more premium and solid.

You don’t waste much time LOL. Glad you’re happy with it. Any chance of a picture please? I wouldn’t mind seeing a real world image. Just wish this was available in the UK.
 
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I own multiple large homes with front, rear, and utility entrances.
I see. thanks.

can’t say I would find a doorbell camera on my back door all that useful, I use a regular camera mounted up higher next to the door for that.
 
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Doorbell received and installed, took about 30 mins. Very happy so far easy to add to HomeKit, powered it up via usb connection and held phone over it, iPhone then prompts to add to HomeKit. Mounted 40” up great field of view. Notifications are very fast, video is clear and two way audio is easy and workable. I don’t know how to export or modify video footage that would be handy.
 

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“A easier and safer solution for someone with little to no experience would be to buy a 2 plug transformer off Amazon and plug it into an outlet. Paint the wire so it blends in and then put a decorative plant or piece of furniture to cover the wire.”

and this is a traditional transformer:View attachment 1690615
A professional electrician would follow the above diagram that connects a transformer to the AC mains. As I said, it was a professional approach that you would receive if you hired an electrician.

Some people want professional results for their home projects.

nice edit on your post BTW.

didn’t realize this thread would turn into teaching others on electrical work. Wow!
Sorry to beat a dead horse but I’m having some trouble wiring mine up, so I figured I would ask;

Is it theoretically possible to wire one of these doorbells to only a transformer and not a chime box?

I don’t have an actual chime, just a transformer in a wall box with two cables running to my doorbell...

I have been trying various wiring combos to no avail. My transformer is one of the classic 3 terminal 8,16,24v models.
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Sorry to beat a dead horse but I’m having some trouble wiring mine up, so I figured I would ask;

Is it theoretically possible to wire one of these doorbells to only a transformer and not a chime box?

I don’t have an actual chime, just a transformer in a wall box with two cables running to my doorbell...

I have been trying various wiring combos to no avail. My transformer is one of the classic 3 terminal 8,16,24v models.
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Yes some have reported not using a chime. They’re cheap though if you end up needing one
 
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