How about just a regular no frills USB keyboard that costs <$20 ? I can go on Amazon and buy an Amazon Basics or Dell keyboard for under $20 that works great for a normal person in an office. The only affordable keyboard I've found is by Macally and it's not great. The Dell and Amazon keyboard is surprisingly good. (Also I'm talking about needing to buy keyboard for an office of 50+ people. Puts a hard stop on buying a $130 Logitech keyboard x 50 users.)
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Logitech Launches New 'Designed for Mac' Mice and Keyboards
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Right?! Logitech sells several Mac-specific keyboards and mice, but most of the normal versions already have Mac key markings (with Windows markings as well) and work every bit as well with Macs as with PC's. In addition, this keyboard appears to be available *only* in the "quiet tactile" version, while the "normal" version is also available in "linear" or "clicky." I do like the color scheme, though.
Also, I don't think Logitech quite gets mechanical keyboards yet. What I mean by that is that Logitech's mechanical keyboards feel great, but they give up three keys to the device-switching feature (compare, for example, to Nuphy, which uses a modifier key to access that feature and therefore doesn't give up primary key functions). This is a big deal for those choosing "mini" keyboards over extended keyboards. They also made some weird choices regarding the functionality of their function keys (emojis over Mission Control, for example) and don't include replacement key caps that someone could use instead of the Logitech-selected options. It's also not possible to simply switch out all of the keys (a common feature of mechanical keyboards generally), as the space bar is a non-standard size. Logitech is *so close* on these, but badly needs a version 2.0 with these improvements.
But back to your point, if you are looking at these, then I strongly recommend considering the versions that are not Mac-specific. You aren't giving up anything.
A few points:
-- You usually don't need Mac-specific peripherals. For example, Logitech's normal versions work with PCs and Macs, and most of their keyboards have Mac and Windows markings. Don't confuse peripherals marketed to Mac (of which there are some) for peripherals compatible with Mac (of which most are). There are probably as many Mac-compatible peripherals as there are PC-compatible peripherals, at least if you are talking about modern peripherals that a normal person would actually want.
-- For Logitech peripherals, you can typically use Bluetooth or a receiver. Logitech is behind the curve in the transition to USB-C, so many of their dongles are USB-A. If you have one of those and want to use it instead of Bluetooth, you would need an adapter (but those work fine).
-- The Magic Mouse is love-it-or-hate-it. Logitech mice are extremely common among Mac users. They work great (I use the MX Vertical, which I need for medical reasons), and the MX line is very programable. Choose whatever you want -- no advantage to buying one marketed as a "Mac" mouse.
yes I have this board and am disappointed that Logi doesnt provide other keycaps to switch. Its a good board but id say there are much better tactile feel boards than this. I mostly use the NuPhy even though I have the Logitech. The Logi switches are too soft mushy. This is a good board if you use it between win and apple devices.
The Magic Mouse is a "finger mouse" rather than a hand mouse. If you are trying to fit your hand around it, then yes, that will hurt. People have distinctly different ways of holding mice, so that's partly why it works beautifully for some and not at all for others.
yep you covered the obvious downfalls of Logitech. If only they allowed for switch swapping and if only they had quality shinethorugh keycaps.
I still wished that Logitech built a Mac-specific ergonomic keyboard that doesn't cost a lot of money like the K860 wireless keyboard.
Agreed. Yeah, I dont try and fit it in my hand (probably wrong choice of words).
I have been thinking about getting a mouse to go along with my trackpad. For most things, the trackpad is superior. When it comes to dragging something across three or four different monitors, it is a pain. I would not be willing to give up my numeric keypad, so I am not changing out the keyboard. I suspect I will also need a mouse pad as my desk is glass.
I have the new 16" and loved the keyboard until I decided to buy the logitech mx mechanical mini and the NuPhy Air60.
Now I almost hate the 16" keyboard and all apple keyboards. its almost aggravating to type on. If you spend a lot of time typing, maybe try the new NuPhy Halo or wait for them to release the Halo75. its actually pleasant to type. you feel more productive hitting those keys. there is a pleasure in it. Apple keyboards are tiring to type on in comparison. Youll only notice this when you experience the switch. Now I wouldn't buy an apple keyboard and the TouchID isnt enough to make me use them.
Another very satisfied customer using the Logitech K811 keyboard since 2018, and never looked back at using the Apple magic keyboards (in both small and full sized models).
At least re: the MX Master 3S:
Different color, exact same hardware and same price but minus the Logi Bolt Receiver = "for Mac". Oy.
So I get *less* functionality and hardware for the same price but get "for Mac" at the end of the product title.
Different color, exact same hardware and same price but minus the Logi Bolt Receiver = "for Mac". Oy.
So I get *less* functionality and hardware for the same price but get "for Mac" at the end of the product title.
Ugh those circle keys are awful, and I hate that Logitech has so many products that mimic chicklet keys. People went to Logitech because they didn't like chicklets.
The best keyboard Logitech ever made IMO was the DiNovo Edge for Mac. I was crushed when my last one stopped working. It was beautiful and perfect and solid (despite how it looked in pictures).
I've used the windows versions of those mechanical keyboards and I just didn't care for them :/ I really wish they'd bring back the DiNovo Edge.
The best keyboard Logitech ever made IMO was the DiNovo Edge for Mac. I was crushed when my last one stopped working. It was beautiful and perfect and solid (despite how it looked in pictures).
I've used the windows versions of those mechanical keyboards and I just didn't care for them :/ I really wish they'd bring back the DiNovo Edge.
So buy the regular one if you don't care about the color, you don't have to buy the Mac one cause you will use it with a Mac.
Haha fair. Although it does have some value for me as my monitor has KVM switching capabilities and I do switch to a PC for gaming. I will celebrate the day I can game with my Mac - but that is another topic entirely.
That's exactly what I did, I was rather pointing out the absurdity of the market...and what flimsy changes represent differentiation here.
You get what you pay for. That $20 isn’t going to feel or sound anywhere near as good as a custom built keyboard.
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Does that break anything with universal control? There’s broken scrolling issues for some users with logi+
I agree, but it will be interesting to see how PassKeys works. If you can authenticate with FaceID on your iphone, ipad, or even mac in the future, maybe keyboards with TouchID won't be necessary. Until then I really like having TouchID on my keyboard.
Used mx keys mini and mx mechanical mini. I like mx keys mini and I didn't like mx mechanical mini. Mainly because mx mechanical mini is gigantic in height which made writing on it not pleasant. That new keyboard also looks big (in terms of height).
Unfortunately mx keys mini has bad quality keycaps. This is how one key looks like after 11 months of frequent usage.
Unfortunately mx keys mini has bad quality keycaps. This is how one key looks like after 11 months of frequent usage.
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I would've appreciated separate keycaps that you can swap out for PC/Mac use, but I also understand this isnt very convenient when you want to switch machines on the fly ahaha