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Are you saying your XR has 3D Touch? Your XR doesn’t have the hardware necessary so I’m assuming your comparing it to a phone that is capable of 3D Touch?
If that's the case, then 3D touch is more exaggerated than I thought because under iOS 12, haptic touch vs 3D touch on the XS and my friend's 7+ acted no different from each other.
 
If that's the case, then 3D touch is more exaggerated than I thought because under iOS 12, haptic touch vs 3D touch on the XS and my friend's 7+ acted no different from each other.
The iPhone 6S, 6S+, 7, 7+, 8, 8+, X, XS, XS Max all have the hardware necessary for 3D Touch. Any iPhone before the 6S as well as the XR and the new iphone 11 series don’t have the hardware hence they received long press or haptic touch. Your friends 7+ should of acted exactly like the XS because they both have pressure sensitive screens and 3D Touch
 
I've used 3D touch since it first came out and use it a hell of a lot, and now on iOS 13 on my XS Max it's bloody terrible being forced to use haptic touch. It is slower and very easy to accidentally activate, never once did I open the menus by mistake on 3D touch. It's extremely disappointing Apple removed this feature.

wait, you can still use it on the xs models though? i'm using it on my xs.
 
wait, you can still use it on the xs models though? i'm using it on my xs.
I believe so. I don't own an XS, but I've played with the 8, XS, and XR in stores for hours at a time for a solid week before buying my XR.
 
the move from 3D touch back to haptic boils down to this: 1-handed operations to now needing both hands, for example copy and paste is no longer easily done with 1 hand. the new copy and paste gesture requires 3 fingers to pinch in and pinch out, which requires something else to hold your phone (namely a second hand). although it is possible to tap tap tap to get to copy and paste, it takes at least 2 if not 3 times more inputs than before.
 
XS Max. I actually switched to long press on the spacebar for cursor movement pretty quickly. It feels much more natural than hard press. I also never use hard press on the Macbook Pro trackpad, could easily see it gone there also.

As for complaints about copy&paste - you do realise, that old way is still possible, there is only now a new option to use gestures.
 
XS Max. I actually switched to long press on the spacebar for cursor movement pretty quickly. It feels much more natural than hard press. I also never use hard press on the Macbook Pro trackpad, could easily see it gone there also.

As for complaints about copy&paste - you do realise, that old way is still possible, there is only now a new option to use gestures.

Tell more about copy and paste lol??
 
Tell more about copy and paste lol??


You do use iOS, or are you just a regular troll?

1. Input windows.

You had do select text first. Before you could use 3D touch and perform two hard presses to select text. Now you do a long press and swipe. With both after finished a black menu pops up for c&p operations.

2. Address bar Safari. No changes. Press to select, black menu pops up.

3. Everything else long press to select, 3D touch was not possible before.
 
I believe so. I don't own an XS, but I've played with the 8, XS, and XR in stores for hours at a time for a solid week before buying my XR.

yea no, the xs obvs had it prior to ios 13, but i still have it after, and i sure hope they don't remove it with 13.1...
 
You do use iOS, or are you just a regular troll?

1. Input windows.

You had do select text first. Before you could use 3D touch and perform two hard presses to select text. Now you do a long press and swipe. With both after finished a black menu pops up for c&p operations.

2. Address bar Safari. No changes. Press to select, black menu pops up.

3. Everything else long press to select, 3D touch was not possible before.

Sure I use iOS. Troll, no; you a smartass or nah?

Was genuinely asking because I knew how to hold finger on keyboard and drag cursor around then press slightly harder to select a chunk of text(on XS Max); when I had replied to this I had literally spent some time earlier in day trying to select a block of text inside a block of text and had been unsuccessful(on my Pro Max). I was curious as to how folks were doing it; hence me trying to get more info.

Thanks for the info; ironically was what I had been trying to figure out. Next time save your **** ass attitude for someone else
 
I think Apple had trouble implementing 3D Touch into iPads so they decided to adopt long press on all devices for cohesiveness.
 
You only lose 3D Touch if you upgrade to iOS 13. Which Apple provide for free. So you aren’t losing anything you have paid for.

The reality is, supporting features costs developer effort, even if you never enhance or improve them. So keeping a feature around for a marginal user group would cost everyone utility along the way.

And I say this as a person who liked and used 3D Touch.
True. Not forced to upgrade but then need to choose over security upgrades. We’re talking hundreds of millions devices or more. ip6 to ipxs
 
The loss of 3D Touch blows. Long press with haptic feedback isn’t a replacement.
 
The loss of 3D Touch blows. Long press with haptic feedback isn’t a replacement.

Matter of opinion. Personally I find long press and haptic feedback a much more intuitive interface and will gladly trade 3D touch for a larger battery.

3D touch was a great demonstration of Apple's technical superiority, but without a good practical implementation.

Just ask yourselves - if it was so great, why did nobody copy it after all these years?
 
Matter of opinion. Personally I find lo
Just ask yourselves - if it was so great, why did nobody copy it after all these years?
Matter of opinion. Personally I find long press and haptic feedback a much more intuitive interface and will gladly trade 3D touch for a larger battery.

3D touch was a great demonstration of Apple's technical superiority, but without a good practical implementation.

Just ask yourselves - if it was so great, why did nobody copy it after all these years?


No need to ask friend. Very simple: it’s a patented technology. Something totally unique to iPhone that they abandoned in my opinion. You can bet that when that patent expires, you’ll be seeing force touch on future android phones.
 
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You can bet that when that patent expires, you’ll be seeing force touch on future android phones.

Like we're seeing touchbars on PCs? Not everything Apple does is great. 3D touch is one of those things. Useful for moving the cursor, pretty much useless for everything else.
 
Like we're seeing touchbars on PCs? Not everything Apple does is great. 3D touch is one of those things. Useful for moving the cursor, pretty much useless for everything else.

Never said everything Apple does is great. Universal consensus is the touchbar sucks. And they’ve misfired many times over the course of their history. Nevertheless, just because you find it useless doesn’t make it so. There are plenty of people that enjoy 3D Touch and will miss it going forward.
 
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I missed 3D Touch at first but have already adapted. I’m in the camp that the extra battery life is worth the 3D Touch loss.
 
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Never said everything Apple does is great. Universal consensus is the touchbar sucks. And they’ve misfired many times over the course of their history. Nevertheless, just because you find it useless doesn’t make it so. There are plenty of people that enjoy 3D Touch and will miss it going forward.

How many non-tech people do you know, who use 3D touch? Most people I know are simply annoyed by not differentiating between a long press or a hard press.

It's not intuitive. And general consensus is that it sucks also. So it was axed finally.
 
Long press is definitely slower due to the mandatory wait time. The biggest regression is the keyboard trackpad, otherwise there isn’t big difference in other areas.
 
I turned 3D Touch off on my X as I figured I may as well get used to long press, and it’ll give me consistency between my iPhone and iPad Pro.

I’ve turned it back on now as I missed the ability to delete text faster with 3D Touch and the pressure sensitivity in markup.
 
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Matter of opinion. Personally I find long press and haptic feedback a much more intuitive interface and will gladly trade 3D touch for a larger battery.

3D touch was a great demonstration of Apple's technical superiority, but without a good practical implementation.

Just ask yourselves - if it was so great, why did nobody copy it after all these years?
How is long press any more intuitive?
How many non-tech people do you know, who use 3D touch? Most people I know are simply annoyed by not differentiating between a long press or a hard press.

It's not intuitive. And general consensus is that it sucks also. So it was axed finally.
What’s your source for this? Apple never said why it was axed so any reasons people give are pure conjecture.
 
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Here’s the proof this feature was all marketing to sell the iPhone 6S, when many people including me were telling the apologists that it was the same exact thing as a long press. It shows.
Those that didnt use 3dt or comparing to android long press don’t understand that long press will never replace the functionality 100% nor be as on the mark as 3dt. Some, like this post have blinders on and don’t understand. It shows.

How to spin the headphone jack? Marketing as well?
 
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