What you may not know is that HIPPA is useless. It is a law intended to make the public feel good while corporate medicine and the government have unfettered access to your private health records.
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There is going to be future viruses. I think the vaccine option is not a great strategy. Why isn't there other solutions that can be more effective on day 1 without all the expense and delays? That is where the focus should be for scientists.
Maybe they tried both. Logistically it's kinda impossible to 100% focus on funding one thing even if that's the aim.
They expect it to mutate in ways that dodge the vaccine but become less deadly as it does so. The common flu is the descendant of something that used to be inherently much more deadly. Remember, viruses don't "want" to kill people, only to spread.
Privacy or security through litigation never really works. It at least prevents them from violating it above the table. HIPPA definitely provides a false sense of security but is far from useless.
Maaybe one downside is, like GDPR, it creates barriers to entry that keep things as oligopolies. IDK, ask a doctor.
and here it begins... how many days until we will have Robocop walking the streets? "You got 20 seconds to comply"
This! People can spoof a "hey I got vaccinated message" from a smartphone app purporting to be something they are not.
I spent a lot of time in a large scale nursing home over the period of 4 years in Munich, Germany. The elderly there get a HORRIBLE diet. Bad fats, bad quality food (which ironically is regarded as great food).. All of them take huge amounts of medications, have hypertension, high cholesterol, high blood sugar levels, all sorts of diseases. Most of them just sit around all day, watch their room's wall or TV and most of them are stoned/high on meds or alcohol at least half of the day. Zero sports, zero care for the immune system, and zero interest in living a healthy life. I'm not critizising historical events, or their lifestyle choices or the system, but if COVID19 is teaching us one thing then it's this: get your act together. Bring your immune system and life up to par and then let's see how strong that virus really is.
How many politicians do you think are going to admit they were wrong for locking down the economy after destroying so many people’s lives? How many will admit they were wrong about masks, especially after so many of them politicized it? https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/
That doesn’t even begin to cover the ridiculous and arbitrary rules around the lockdowns... let’s put non-essential (ie, small businesses) out of business because they don’t vote for us while allowing big companies such as Walmart, McDonald’s and Home Depot to thrive because we can more easily control big business... it’s almost as if Ayn Rand was a prophet!
There are a lot of things that kill people. Alcohol kills almost 100K Americans a year, not to mention it’s the leading cause of domestic violence. Yet, just about anyone who looks 21 with the right ID can buy mass quantities of it.
Covid is deadly, yes, but not nearly as deadly as once thought. It’s certainly not worth giving up people’s rights over. If this were the Spanish flu, I’d probably be inclined to agree with you, but it’s not... not even close. It’s closer to the 1968 pandemic which has been largely forgotten.
Politicians in countries that didn't take Covid19 seriously have already admitted fault, either tacitly by reversing course or (in Sweden) upfront by admitting fault. Remember when doubters kept pointing to Sweden's policy?
McDonald's drive-through is clearly safe enough while their store isn't; likewise small restaurants are allowed to offer takeout, which seems fair. All the small shops are open with limited capacity like Walmart is. I can still shop at gun stores even in parts of CA trying to get rid of them by any means, so there you go. Of course a major lockdown is going to be subject to all the same corruption that applies elsewhere, and there will also be disagreements over what's considered essential, but that doesn't mean there should be no distinction. Really the biggest problem is the aid going to those who don't really need it, like these stupid $2K checks. If a shop is temp closed for the greater good, it should be financially supported by the greater good.
The 1968 pandemic killed 34K-100K people in the US by the end of it without them taking 2020-level precautions. There were 200.7M people in the US at the time, making that 0.05% of the pop at worst. Covid19 so far has killed 0.1% and continues to kill at an increasing rate with no end in sight.
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If everyone is vaccinated except "anti-vaxers" what's the worry? If the vaccine works, the proponents are safe, and the dangerous non-conformists and their offspring will eventually be vanquished from the gene pool. Unless of course, it's about control of the populace, but it's not like THAT ever happens.
Your analogy makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If you are vaccinated, then how is somebody who is not vaccinated a threat to you? On the other hand, if you are not vaccinated, but believe that vaccination should be a requirement for being in public, then you have no business being in public yourself, in which case other persons who are not vaccinated should still be no threat to you since you should not be exposing yourself to anyone.
Cause the vaccine isn't 100% effective, so vaccinated people can still get it. Unvaccinated people are still a risk to them. There's a well-defined threshold of % vaccinated above which the virus is considered contained.
"The critical value, or threshold, in a given population, is the point where the disease reaches an endemic steady state, which means that the infection level is neither growing nor declining exponentially." – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity
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Of course not... heaven forbid you dine next to a contagious person, then take the virus over to your grandparents. Had the restaurant had your info, they could have warned you of the exposure
This selfish behavior is a contributing factor to why we are in the situation we are in
and I’m guessing you only pay cash right?
When 1 in 1000 of the U.S.'s entire population have died from covid, the mortality argument isn't as convincing anymore given how infectious it is.
I hope the vaccine is safe and effective. My problem is forcing people to take it.
This vaccine was developed at warp speed and God knows what side effects could come 2, 5, or 10 years from now.
I rather wear a mask, distance, eat well, exercise, take vitamin D3 rather than jump into an unknown vaccine.
Sorry, but I don't trust officials and politicians. They botched the virus response many times over. What would make you think they can't do this again with this vaccine? There are too many forces playing a role here like profits, pharma, control, politics, etc.
This vaccine was developed at warp speed and God knows what side effects could come 2, 5, or 10 years from now.
I rather wear a mask, distance, eat well, exercise, take vitamin D3 rather than jump into an unknown vaccine.
Sorry, but I don't trust officials and politicians. They botched the virus response many times over. What would make you think they can't do this again with this vaccine? There are too many forces playing a role here like profits, pharma, control, politics, etc.
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no difference in societal risk? all those other diseases you mentioned combined don’t kill as many Americans in a year as covid has killed this month. no, let me guess - you think the covid death numbers are made up?
Ok, where does it end? And why do you think so?
All of humanity until the last 150 years had no experience with vaccines. That means Cicero abs homer and thousands of others of whom our best geniuses can’t hold a candle to, are idiots and morons because some modern people prefer not to live according to frankly stultifyingly stupid modern standards.
First off I don’t have a STD however if you apply to enter a lot of countries there are some you must declare such as HIV. Second to that there is a difference between catching something from being in side the same room as someone and being inside someone. You get the difference yeah?
As expected, this discussion is a complete dumpster fire. It’s sad to see what public debate has devolved to in the US. Who needs China or another hostile foreign power when we can tear ourselves apart for them?