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20 bit audio? I suppose Logic Pro 10.8 will arrive soon, or perhaps only Apple Mastering at 20 bit, but there is no support in Logic Pro for 20 bit audio track production.
There will be. So long as you keep up with your $29.99/month subscription.
 
It's almost like this will happen soon...... Tim Apple Spring 2024.... Today Im happy to announce iPhone 15 Rev 2... all iPhones bought from today will have their ability to double battery life enabled. Only available on iPhone 15's bought after XX
 
By the time VP 1st gen is on sale.. they will be announcing the 2nd gen and Apple AirPods Pro 2 (Rev 5)...
 
So, I have to buy a $250 product on top of a $3499 product just to get lossless audio? huh......

Why is this thing gonna be the next big thing again?

From the price to the features, I don't really see what's groundbreaking.
In this form factor you do not hear the difference between backwards compatible 320 kBit / s MP3 and Apple Lossless (both 48 kHz).
 
It's amazing how many Apple Hardware Engineers are on here saying it's the exact same chip when they have no clue if it is a second or later revision. Hardware companies do it with components all the time. Even motherboard manufacturers or router companies will have special firmware for different revisions of the same model.

But go on and have your faux outrage, everybody seems to do that nowadays. When you bought your APP2, it never advertised lossless so move on.
 
It's amazing how many Apple Hardware Engineers are on here saying it's the exact same chip when they have no clue if it is a second or later revision. Hardware companies do it with components all the time. Even motherboard manufacturers or router companies will have special firmware for different revisions of the same model.

But go on and have your faux outrage, everybody seems to do that nowadays. When you bought your APP2, it never advertised lossless so move on.
But this is the thing... its not the same model... the port is different and apparently the headphones are different too.. so its not really the same model...
 
But this is the thing... its not the same model... the port is different and apparently the headphones are different too.. so its not really the same model...
Exactly, so why do people think Apple screwed them in not making the lightning APP2s compatible with this new feature? It's clearly a different revision of the APP2 with a couple enhancements (likely H2 rev B, IP rating increase of both case and AirPods themselves, etc).
 
I have. APTX is not CD quality.
It’s near enough to make no difference.

And I can clearly hear the difference between 96k, 44.1, and compressed mp3/aac.

I could hear immediately that the same file played off my iPod touch was using a lesser Bluetooth codec than my MacBook.

Bottom line, Apple is far behind once again.
 
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Exactly, so why do people think Apple screwed them in not making the lightning APP2s compatible with this new feature? It's clearly a different revision of the APP2 with a couple enhancements (likely H2 rev B, IP rating increase of both case and AirPods themselves, etc).
But this is the issue... Apple used to keep things simple... but now you have a situation where AirPods Pro 2 are not the same as another set of AirPods Pro 2

There's nothing wrong with the device... it's the name of it.
 
It’s near enough to make no difference.

And I can clearly hear the difference between 96k, 44.1, and compressed mp3/aac.

I could hear immediately that the same file played off my iPod touch was using a lesser Bluetooth codec than my MacBook.

Bottom line, Apple is far behind once again.
And you're in the .001% that gives a **** about that sort of thing. Apple builds to the masses, sorry if you have a niche desire outside of that.
 
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It’s near enough to make no difference.

And I can clearly hear the difference between 96k, 44.1, and compressed mp3/aac.

I could hear immediately that the same file played off my iPod touch was using a lesser Bluetooth codec than my MacBook.

Bottom line, Apple is far behind once again.

It is good, but it's not CD quality, that's what I'm saying, and that's what you're grudgingly agreeing with.
 
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But this is the issue... Apple used to keep things simple... but now you have a situation where AirPods Pro 2 are not the same as another set of AirPods Pro 2

There's nothing wrong with the device... it's the name of it.
I agree the same name is confusing, but doesn't change the fact that they are a new revision. They apparently felt that calling it the USB C version was a big enough differentiator in naming. I think they got that wrong. But that doesn't mean everybody on here is correct in feeling Apple is leaving them behind because this isn't supported by the first rev of the APP2.
 
So they are AirPods Pro Gen 2.1?

I guess?

Bizarre
No, they are AirPods Pro 2, but not the same as AirPods Pro 2 from last week... wait a minute, when did you buy them... which port do they have...

Oh, I think I need to go to Apple Store

Me: Hello, I have an issue, Ive got two pairs of AirPods Pro 2... but they are not the same and Ive mixed them up. Can you help me separate my AirPods from my AirPods.

Apple Store: Can you start from the beginning and explain.. Im a bit lost.

Me: Yeah, one pair is lossless, but I don't know which is which.

Apple Store: Can we interest you in AirPods Pro 2 (rev 3) they have lossless and anti-lost functionality.
 
I agree the same name is confusing, but doesn't change the fact that they are a new revision. They apparently felt that calling it the USB C version was a big enough differentiator in naming. I think they got that wrong. But that doesn't mean everybody on here is correct in feeling Apple is leaving them behind because this isn't supported by the first rev of the APP2.
Only Apple seems to use this as a way to differentiate a revision.. if they just called them AirPods Pro 2 + or S... they would have been no confusion
 
You clearly haven’t heard of ATPX.

Try again.
aptX was billed as CD quality (technically "CD-like") but the reality is more complex. There was still compression used so it wasn't lossless, which is what CDs are (should be). Lossless, which is much closer to CD quality, wasn't introduced until 2021.

Now, in reality it doesn't matter. aptX was close enough to CD quality to work. In any case, there is no evidence that people can reliably tell the difference between lossy and lossless. There might be a few people who can. If you're one of them, that's awesome. Otherwise, it's placebo (which is fine too).

I've done aptX versus standard bluetooth tests and can't tell the difference, at least I'm not comfortable saying I can in a reliable and reproducible way. I enjoy music and have several headphones and a "cheap" $200 headphone amp at my computer but most of my music listening is done through AirPod Pros. It's good enough that I can enjoy the music without getting overly bogged down by technicalities.
 
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