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Well since he was at the dock and considering he was out on vendetta, I assume he was there to kill Penny Widmore. Whether he managed or not is yet to be seen.

Yeah, that's what I assumed the second I saw him covered in blood at the docks. I love how they didn't explain it and no one questioned why he was beat up. Desmond has his reason to return to the island now. I wasn't paying particularly close attention to this episode. My roommate who is not a Lost fan distracted me most of the episode. Didn't this all seem a little quick? I'm totally fine with them getting back to the island this early in the season and the plot device for their return, but didn't it seem a little rushed for them all to get back together? I'm fine with Hurley and Sayid's reasons being explained later, but it looked like they focused on Kate and didn't give a believable explanation from what little I paid attention to. I'll rewatch it again tonight. Where are Sun and Kate's kids?

I love how the three years off island don't really matter to the people on island because of the time jumps. I originally thought they would have to tell parallel stories on and off island. This is a great way to condense the story. So I guess the time jumps don't stop just because they return. It would be awsome if they have to make a choice about what time period to stay in. Some of them would be tempted to go back and save dead people like Charlie or Shanon. Of course that could create a paradox. So would staying in any time period where there would be 2 of any character. It would be great if they got stranded in a different time period and had a whole new reason why they couldn't leave the island.
 
Well since he was at the dock and considering he was out on vendetta, I assume he was there to kill Penny Widmore. Whether he managed or not is yet to be seen.

Damnit, that would give them an crappy out. Isn't Desmond somehow special in that he can change things while time travelling? What if he goes back and actually pushes the button so that Oceanic 815 doesn't crash?

If that happened then the entire series never happened...
 
I loved the beginning of the episode where they are underneath the church. The pendulum was very cool :).

Faraday's mum said that there are time windows in which you can travel from and to the island. I always assumed that you could always go back and forward from the island - you just needed the exact co-ordinates?

Does the island exist at all? Faraday's mum say's, "why don't you think you were ever rescued?". If the island was traveling through time, surely it would be found in space as well? Why was it so difficult for them to get rescued? Is it simply a case of when the first initial plane crash occurred, it happened in a pocket of time before the time line they were initially in? [2004 or whatever?].
So when people went to look for the crashed plane, it was never found?

I have a niggling feeling that Lost is ultimately going to end with some sort of repetition - like the final episode will show everyone boarding Oceanic Flight 815 unaware of their fate.
 
I really liked that Jin was in Dharma garb. Him, Farady and the rest are probably dressing like Dharma members to fit in, like you guys said. Maybe they're stuck in that time period?
Maybe Jin joined the Dharma team because that's the employment available, or because they offered him a way off the island eventually. It could be a practical deal, not necessarily a deceit. Then again, when is anything ever straightforward in Lost?

When the flash happened, I assumed it was just a normal Island time flash, and they were just in the proximity of the island when it occured. Maybe that's why the island started flashing in the first place. Maybe it has been "programmed" (for lack of a better term) to start flashing when people who shouldn't leave do, so that all they have to do is fly above the island and they are magically back in it. Maybe now, the time flashes will stop, since they have served their purpose of bringing people back - just a hunch.
If the time flashes have stopped completely, they'd be stuck in that Dharma era, and that might not be as fun for us and the writers. But the writers don't have to give them up. Here's my reasoning: The island needed the Oceanic Six plus the other expatriates to return. Ben said that it had to be all of them. (He and Elloise then seemed to backpedal and become willing to settle for as many as they could get, but maybe that was a ploy to make it seem like the Losties would actually have a choice.)

Let's take stock:
  • Jack: willingly went back, for the good of the people on the island
  • Locke: dead and on his way back, where he may revive
  • Ben: willingly went back, supposedly for the good of others (or the island), after some kind of bloody encounter the night before
  • Kate: came around to the decision to go back, but without Aaron, telling Jack not to ask her about Aaron
  • Sun: went back because she now believes Jin might be alive
  • Sayid: escorted in handcuffs, after saying he wanted nothing to do with it, so we'll need to be filled in on what happened
  • Hurley: ended up going along willingly, to be explained
  • Frank: didn't know he was going back, but seemed to realize it and maybe even accept it pretty easily
  • Desmond: says he's done with the island, presumably going to find out otherwise
  • Aaron: presumably with some other caretaker and not returning
  • Walt: I lost track. Where is he?
Without Aaron, the Oceanic Six have not all returned... unless Ben arranged for Aaron to be taken to the island some other way! The island is also missing Desmond and maybe Walt.

Therefore, the writers can keep the time flashes going if they want! I'll take a guess, that the time flashes will be fewer in number, but not gone.

By the way, when Desmond was angry, I was sure he was going to knock the pendulum aside, and something bad would result. Nope!

Since I'm not great with predictions, I'll continue to play it safe by typing the numbers every 108 posts. :)
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Damnit, that would give them an crappy out. Isn't Desmond somehow special in that he can change things while time travelling? What if he goes back and actually pushes the button so that Oceanic 815 doesn't crash?

If that happened then the entire series never happened...

I think you just ruined the series finale. Desmond goes back prevents the crash. The plane lands normally in LA and all our losties are still alive but they dont know each other they just walk by each other in the airport on their way out. Kate and jack exchange a mystical glance as if they have seen each other somewhere before but dont quite know where.....

roll credits..
 
I think you just ruined the series finale. Desmond goes back prevents the crash. The plane lands normally in LA and all our losties are still alive but they dont know each other they just walk by each other in the airport on their way out. Kate and jack exchange a mystical glance as if they have seen each other somewhere before but dont quite know where.....

roll credits..

I like it!
 
I think you just ruined the series finale. Desmond goes back prevents the crash. The plane lands normally in LA and all our losties are still alive but they dont know each other they just walk by each other in the airport on their way out. Kate and jack exchange a mystical glance as if they have seen each other somewhere before but dont quite know where.....

roll credits..

At which point I will lament the fact that I wasted X hours watching this show only to have it ruined by a very crappy and foreseeable ending. It would be almost as bad as having Jack wake up and realize it was all a dream...
 
If the time flashes have stopped completely, they'd be stuck in that Dharma era, and that might not be as fun for us and the writers. But the writers don't have to give them up.
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It could make sense that they are stuck in the Dharma era, because we have seen two main characters in Dharma dress. Maybe they are all stuck in the Dharma era (including the O6 now) and have to find a way to get un-stuck in time. Maybe Sawyer, Daniel, Jin, and the others have been stuck in the Dharma era for 3 years, waiting for the O6 to return.

Or, perhaps the "others" (Jin, etc.) have been stuck in the Dharma era waiting for their return, and the flash of light that brought the O6 off the plane onto the island was a flash bringing them back to normal time? Jin could have been driving the bus during the flash (being in the Dharma era) and it went with him back to normal time when the O6 returned because Jin was touching it.
 
Since I'm not great with predictions, I'll continue to play it safe by typing the numbers every 108 posts. :)
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Just because it was you that said this I checked. You were off by 14 posts...
 
Since I'm not great with predictions, I'll continue to play it safe by typing the numbers every 108 posts. :)

Just because it was you that said this I checked. You were off by 14 posts...

He never clarified where the 108 was referencing. Maybe every 108 posts he posts in this thread with the numbers. Maybe he's responsible for every 108th post on the forums?
 
I think you just ruined the series finale. Desmond goes back prevents the crash. The plane lands normally in LA and all our losties are still alive but they dont know each other they just walk by each other in the airport on their way out. Kate and jack exchange a mystical glance as if they have seen each other somewhere before but dont quite know where.....

roll credits..

I am really worried this is how the show is going to end.
 
I think you just ruined the series finale. Desmond goes back prevents the crash. The plane lands normally in LA and all our losties are still alive but they dont know each other they just walk by each other in the airport on their way out. Kate and jack exchange a mystical glance as if they have seen each other somewhere before but dont quite know where.....

roll credits..

I really hope that doesn't happen. That would ruin it for me.
 
I think you just ruined the series finale. Desmond goes back prevents the crash. The plane lands normally in LA and all our losties are still alive but they dont know each other they just walk by each other in the airport on their way out. Kate and jack exchange a mystical glance as if they have seen each other somewhere before but dont quite know where.....

roll credits..

That's basically how Stephen King ended The Dark Tower Series <- (Name of the series in white, so I don't spoil it). I wasn't fully satisfied with that.

That's also how they accounted for Patrick Duffy being killed on the show Dallas- the entire season was one of the characters' dream.


I think that would be a lame way to end Lost.
 
I think you just ruined the series finale. Desmond goes back prevents the crash. The plane lands normally in LA and all our losties are still alive but they dont know each other they just walk by each other in the airport on their way out. Kate and jack exchange a mystical glance as if they have seen each other somewhere before but dont quite know where.....

roll credits..

I posted this on the IMDb Lost board and this one interesting response that I got:

as I've always said, the real meaning of LOST (among the many) is that each of these characters were lost in their lives. each one had major problems and were struggling with the path they were on.

the island, and all the resulting experiences, teach them lessons and help them to understand what's wrong in their situation and how to make it better. it's their chance at redemption.

it seems like it could very well be a possibility that in the end, the plane never crashes, but like desmond suddenly having a memory of faraday, all the losties' brains will be filled with the memories of everything that happened on the island and in that timeline. they will then go on to find the right path and no longer be lost.
 
Just surfing around and found this chart and I thought I'd share.

Found on Graph Jam
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I watched the last episode again and it seemed interesting that the flashing on the plane happened right after Ben left Jack to read the letter. In the following sequence and up to the flashing, we see all the characters, but Ben isn't seen sitting or standing not even in the wide shots.
 
I think you just ruined the series finale. Desmond goes back prevents the crash. The plane lands normally in LA and all our losties are still alive but they dont know each other they just walk by each other in the airport on their way out. Kate and jack exchange a mystical glance as if they have seen each other somewhere before but dont quite know where.....

roll credits..

I've been picking up on that for a few episodes now. I hope they don't pull that off. Lost needs some kind of original, mindblowing ending to match the rest of the show. Pulling a Mullholland Drive (was it?) or that other "it was all a dream" show (Dallas? I don't watch these shows so I don't know) would be a cop out of the highest calibre.
 
Just because it was you that said this I checked. You were off by 14 posts...

Those 14 posts were related to the time when Desmond didn't push the button that caused the plane crash... of course :D

Just something about 'Jughead' and it being behind all the concrete at the 'i can't remember the name' station.

I remember that there was some magnetic field behind the concrete and when they didn't press the button all magnetic stuff was drawn to that concrete wall. Why would anyone put a nuclear bomb that close to an unstable magnetic source like that?
 
I watched the last episode again and it seemed interesting that the flashing on the plane happened right after Ben left Jack to read the letter.
I liked the timing. The letter kept returning to Jack, as if the island (or was it fate?) needed him to read it. As soon as he accepted that fate, the island was ready to bring them all back. Poof!
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Charlie, or at least Dominic Monaghan, isn't dead after all. Monaghan showed up playing a rock star with a suitably decadent lifestyle, on a recent episode of Chuck! Anyone been to a DriveShaft concert lately? :)
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Has anyone been reading the ew.com commentary.

He points out that lost is roughly following the Chronicles of Narnia books. He also pointed out that we are going to see the lamp post as the gateway to the lost island, much like the lamp post was the first thing they saw when going through the wardrobe. He had a few predictions there as well.

In Narnia they all grew old, but when they returned through the wardrobe, they were young again, so he may be on to something...
 
I hope so. Narnia had a fantastic ending, can't wait for the film series to get to it.
 
He points out that lost is roughly following the Chronicles of Narnia books.

Desmond goes back prevents the crash. The plane lands normally in LA and all our losties are still alive but they dont know each other they just walk by each other in the airport on their way out. Kate and jack exchange a mystical glance as if they have seen each other somewhere before but dont quite know where.....

roll credits..
They would think they saw each other in a dream...or a dream of a dream.
</Narnia reference>
 
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