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Lost TV show (Part 2) -- includes spoilers on show nights
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I'm not surprised. I never played Myst, but I was a fan of Riven, and Lost definitely has the same look and feel. I noticed the similarities especially in the second and third seasons as the cast started to leave the beaches and we encountered the other's villages and the various Dharma stations.
I think you're both on to something. Aside from the references to doubting Thomas, remember that the episode was named "316", as in chapter and verse from the Gospel of John:
"For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, so that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
Clearly the act of believing is central to the Losties' fate, and may indeed have caused a split between Jack, Kate, and Hugo v. the rest. We'll see.
I hope they don't go too far though with the Christ parallels and John Locke.
The flight number is also 316. They are really trying to drill this in. Good find on the passage. I like the Locke/Christ parallels, but I agree that they shouldn't over-do it. It's been done before, gentlemen!
that is brilliant! And now that I am caught up with the show I can participate in this thread.
I liked how they tried to recreate the situations from the first crash. I also wondered if Kate's little romp with Jack made her the pregnant passenger instead of the prisoner previously. </a thought>
Tonite's episode will reportedly include more scenes with Matthew Abbadon, who pushes Locke's wheelchair during hospital rehab. If you remember, he mysteriously said "Oh, I'm a lot more than just an orderly" and talked to John about miracles.
He was also known as Arthur Stevens. He recruited Naomi, Faraday, and others for their mission to the island. He also visited Hurley in the asylum, acting like a lawyer for Oceanic Airlines.
The actor is Lance Riddick, who also plays Homeland Security agent Philip Boyles in Fringe, another show I like.
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He was also known as Arthur Stevens. He recruited Naomi, Faraday, and others for their mission to the island. He also visited Hurley in the asylum, acting like a lawyer for Oceanic Airlines.
The actor is Lance Riddick, who also plays Homeland Security agent Philip Boyles in Fringe, another show I like.
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Yeah, he's been in a number of other successful TV shows as well - namely all the Law and Orders, the Wire, CSI Miami and Oz. I really like this guy, I'm glad he's getting the attention he deserves. He's been a mysterious character, like Richard Alpert, so this should be good. I remember watching the scene in the episode where he is an orderly where he takes John to the top of the stairs by the elevator and talks to him for a while. What a great LOST scene that was...
Man I love this so much, for some reason I wish it would never end. Ever since I first saw this show and Evangeline Lilly, I could not stop dreaming about her. I look forward to all the surprises the last two seasons.
Just a heads up, if you are recording it, it will run until 10:06.
Either we're getting a **** load of commercials or 6 more minutes of juicy Lost goodness. My moneys on the latter.
Either we're getting a **** load of commercials or 6 more minutes of juicy Lost goodness. My moneys on the latter.
Well we had to find out how John Locke died. Now that Ben did it, it drives me nuts as to why. I understand John HAD to die like Richard said, and looks like Ben was trying to find Eloise Hawking and got his answer and then killed him.
Also, I'm trying to figure out whether John is in the same time zone as Jack and co. because the latino guy mentions they disappeared from the plane. Ben and John didnt disappear. Hmmm?
Also, I'm trying to figure out whether John is in the same time zone as Jack and co. because the latino guy mentions they disappeared from the plane. Ben and John didnt disappear. Hmmm?
Loved it. I mean I hate Ben now, killing my favorite character (twice) is just inexcusable.
I'm thinking Jin & co. are in the Dharma Initiative times. Explains why there was a nice Dharma van and why Farraday was working on the Orchid. So when there was that bright flash on the plane the O6 were taken off and transported onto the mainland with Jin & co. and they are in the 70s with them. The rest who didn't belong (not sure why this includes John, but...) landed on the Hydra. And I guess it's possible they are in the 70s too...? I mean there was paper work on the desk it didn't look run down. But anywho, they are on that island and it appears Lapidus and someone else took off on one of the canoes, probably to the mainland.
I'm sure next week we'll find out what is going on, who is where and all that jazz. I don't think I like Ceasr, seems like the tyrant type.
I'm thinking Jin & co. are in the Dharma Initiative times. Explains why there was a nice Dharma van and why Farraday was working on the Orchid. So when there was that bright flash on the plane the O6 were taken off and transported onto the mainland with Jin & co. and they are in the 70s with them. The rest who didn't belong (not sure why this includes John, but...) landed on the Hydra. And I guess it's possible they are in the 70s too...? I mean there was paper work on the desk it didn't look run down. But anywho, they are on that island and it appears Lapidus and someone else took off on one of the canoes, probably to the mainland.
I'm sure next week we'll find out what is going on, who is where and all that jazz. I don't think I like Ceasr, seems like the tyrant type.
Ben didn't want to kill Locke. He was trying to keep him from committing suicide. As soon as Locke mentioned "Eioise" That's when Ben killed him.
When Locke mentioned Eioise Ben knew Locke had to die so he killed him knowing he would wind up on the island at an earlier time before Locke died. That's why Locke appeared on the island with the survivors of the plane crash. As soon as the casket hit the island Locke came back to life. Remember when locke first went to the island he couldn't walk and a miracle occurred. Same thing with the casket.
The Latino guy was the same guy that gave Jack his condolences at the airline ticket counter so they were on the plane together.
As for Ben and John Locke. John Locke was in a casket on the plane so we really don't know if he disappeared or not.
I don't know about this. He wouldn't have said "I'll miss you John, I really will."
Locke knew too much. Ben likes to control his fate.
Same thing with Jacks father.
Someone speculated earlier about why ben was so bloody. On the Pop up edition of Lost (last weeks episode shown with commentary), the commentary did specifically talk about Ben's promise to Whidmore about killing Penny. I suspect that either she fought back or Desmond fought back and Ben killed them both.
I think this was one of the most straight forward shows of the season, no super clouded unanswered question packed episode, we know that Locke lives and Ben killed him. The plane did crash, but the new survivors know something freaky is going on, because the one guy saw Hurly disappear after the light flash. The plane looks intact, so it looks like Frank saved the day again. They new survivors (we need a new term for them) knew Locke wasn't on the plane, but they think he's nuts since he told them he was dead. That was priceless...
Could this just be an endless cycle of the island refreshing its inhabitants?
What is the significance of the missing boat on the beach and Frank and ??? went with a gun? Was that who was shooting at Sawyer in one of the flashbacks.
So both Richard (or was it Christian?) and Widmore know where Elouise is, but Ben didn't? I'm guessing that Widmore really is the good guy. All Ben needed to know was where she was staying.
I liked that episode. All politics and no psuedo-science but it'll do for me. Really liked the start with Locke acting mysterious to the new survivors, reminded me of how the Others acted around the first bunch of survivors.
So rumours flying around that Walt=Abbadon?
I liked that episode. All politics and no psuedo-science but it'll do for me. Really liked the start with Locke acting mysterious to the new survivors, reminded me of how the Others acted around the first bunch of survivors.
So rumours flying around that Walt=Abbadon?
I think Frank left with Sun. Sun prolly didnt land in same time zone as kate jack and hurley because she has Jin's wedding ring or doesn't have the baby (fetus) with her.
I'm thinking, what's with Locke, He isn't acting like a leader too much. He is trying to figure out what has been happening. I have a feeling that the big leader, or so called "Jacob" is someone we haven't seen too much of. I just have a weird gut feeling about it.
This is out of the blue but I remember how Christian recruited Claire, Im starting to think he recruited Michael when he was on the boat. Ah jeez, I'm bad at theories, going way off topic. Just trying to think of the BIG leader guy in this.
This is out of the blue but I remember how Christian recruited Claire, Im starting to think he recruited Michael when he was on the boat. Ah jeez, I'm bad at theories, going way off topic. Just trying to think of the BIG leader guy in this.
Here's the bit that intrigues me: Widmore.
How did he go from sniveling 17 year old to leading "his people" for three decades, when it looked like Richard was in charge in '54 and then again at the time of the purge. Or is he, like Ben, just a pathological liar.
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How did he go from sniveling 17 year old to leading "his people" for three decades, when it looked like Richard was in charge in '54 and then again at the time of the purge. Or is he, like Ben, just a pathological liar.
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The boats. doesn't anyone remember a couple of episodes ago some of the survivors left on the island flashed into a time when they found their camp abandoned with a boat on the beach ? Same kind of boat. They took it and started to leave the island. The other boat had some people in it shooting at them as they paddled away.
The island seems to pick it's own leaders. Richard is almost always second in command, so that's probably his "job" (like Abbadon's job is to get people to where they need to go). He was just chilling as the leader until Whidmore was mature enough to take over or something like that.
Someone mentioned earlier that Walt could be Abbadon. That would be pretty funky. The only thing that makes me think it may not be true is when he drove Locke to see Walt, they were both in the same scene. I mean, I suppose that's possible, but it doesn't seem likely. That would be awesome though.
I wish he didn't have to die.
They were really messing with us during that scene. He dreamed about locke being in a suit talking to strangers.
I starting to think that this is a perpetual cycle and Walt will be the next leader of the others. I had to laugh at the comment "He got big".
A good episode. I think Terry O'Quinn is a terrific actor. His acting, even down to his facial expressions are so realistic. I think he plays John Locke pretty well.
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