Lost TV show (Season 6) -- includes spoilers on show nights

[barr08]

Correct. When Sawyer was down with Juliet, she said it didn't work--she was assuming this since they were still all there. Then she must have had some sort of revelation and was about to tell Sawyer something just before she died.

Then when Miles and Sawyer were burying her body, it was Miles that said Juliet is saying "It worked."

Again, we don't know

1) What "it" is.
2) What changed Juliet's mind if she is talking about the bomb.

I have a feeling that once someone dies on the Island, they come to some sort of an understanding. Perhaps the secrets of the Island are finally revealed to you, as compensation for having to suffer and die.

When we see a dead character reanimated in someone's head or on the Island, they seem to have this presence, everything is calm and clear, they seem to know exactly what they are doing and WHY they are doing it - think Charlie when he tells Hurley that (Jack/Kate) 'shouldn't be raising him', or Yemi, or Alex, etc. Now, these are most likely manifestations of MiB, but when they get reanimated, they seem to split consciousness - they maintain a certain level of their own personality, but act in the ways that their puppet master wants them to.

So, if this is indeed the case, it is very likely that the 'spirits' (for lack of a better word) that Miles talks to have this same sort of understanding. This seems to me like the most obvious way Juliet would change her mind so quickly.

3) If Miles is really telling the truth. He has a history of lying about what the dead people are saying. Although I doubt this is the case.

Miles has lied about the dead off the Island for profit, but if I remember correctly, he has been honest on the Island (excluding the omission of knowing there was something up with Claire before she wandered off).

 

[brendu]

was it me or were there a lot more commercials tonight than usual...

finally we got to see claire again on the island..

also, do you think that the darkness in claire and sayid is the man in black? can he "claim" more than one person... if so i would bet he had claimed christian, although ive thought for awhile that it was the man in black who was christian...

 

[Peace]

Who is Jack's sister? Claire right?


I think there is more than one smoke monster.

Theory :

Jacob and the nemesis are aliens and are both "smoke monsters".

 

[jtmx29]

Who is Jack's sister?


I think there is more than one smoke monster.

Theory :

Jacob and the nemesis are aliens and are both "smoke monsters".

The smoke monster took form of John Locke's body, and Sayid will end up being Jacob. My predictions!

 

[Peace]

Claire had the "smoke monster infection" and was cured by that pill. I'm guessing this is why she was able to have the baby on the island and also why Locke could walk.

 

[NathanCH]

That episode was VERY sappy and there was a lot I didn't like about it. But I still liked a lot of it.

^ That was very general

 

[Surely]

The only thing that I really liked about that episode was that BLT from the original Degrassi series was in it.... he was one of the Others (the black guy) who went with Kate and Jin to look for Sawyer.

 

[Peace]

Next week it's Locke's turn and he has a special friend.

Just watched the producers interview here in Portland on TV with a sneak peek.

Also . The reason Richard and ( now I think ) the others don't age is because they have been drinking the water from the spring.

 

[NathanCH]

Next week it's Locke's turn and he has a special friend.

Just watched the producers interview here in Portland on TV with a sneak peek.

Also . The reason Richard and ( now I think ) the others don't age is because they have been drinking the water from the spring.

For some reason I didn't even think of that, but it seems so obvious now! Nice thought

The Japanese guy maybe from the blackrock ship and may be 100s of years old

 

[Peace]

An another epiphany.

The Lottery numbers. There are six of them. They represent the Oceanic 6.

 

[techfreak85]

Just watched the producers interview here in Portland on TV with a sneak peek.

Was it any good? I just couldn't stay up and watch it.

 

[pilotError]

The more I watch the split time lines the more I see the show being a struggle between destiny and free will.

In the normal timeline (where they don't crash), everyone is still thrown together by circumstance, and we'll soon see if the final outcome is the same (ie. Kate ending up with Claires baby).

Funny to see Dr. Goodspeed? (vs. Godspeed?) deliver the baby though.

Did anyone notice any hidden eggs in this last episode?

Lots of Deja Vu bleeding through as Claire called the baby Aaron, even Kate seemed to know the name.

 

[jtmx29]

The more I watch the split time lines the more I see the show being a struggle between destiny and free will.

In the normal timeline (where they don't crash), everyone is still thrown together by circumstance, and we'll soon see if the final outcome is the same (ie. Kate ending up with Claires baby).

Funny to see Dr. Goodspeed? (vs. Godspeed?) deliver the baby though.

Did anyone notice any hidden eggs in this last episode?

Lots of Deja Vu bleeding through as Claire called the baby Aaron, even Kate seemed to know the name.

NATHAN haha!

 

[Shaun.P]

I've really went off LOST since season 6. I'm bored of all the exaggerated drama. The plot is a tangled mess that we (the viewer) are supposed to revel in, but ultimately the show has become more and more convoluted and meaningless.

And now this latest episode, Sayid has to take a poison tablet. Ultimately it's got to the stage where I have to ask, who care's anymore?

How do you even end a mess like LOST? What would be a "good" ending for you?

 

[0098386]

I wasn't too keen on episode 3. It seemed, well they only have 13 episodes left and they're still remaining quite cryptic about the events. I guess we're in for a slow build up until the 10th episode and then it'll be a downhill run with all the important events happening.

The poisoned tablet bits were dragging on way too much, even for Losts standards.

 

[Doctor Q]

Claire had the "smoke monster infection" and was cured by that pill. I'm guessing this is why she was able to have the baby on the island and also why Locke could walk.

If Jacob did take over Sayid's body, perhaps here's how it works: Sayid first had to die (drowning). Then Jacob could inhabit him. If Jack can get Jacob-Sayid to take the poison pill then Jacob will be exorcised. Which means that Sayid will either again be dead from drowning or will return to the life Jacob borrowed. Maybe he'd again have a bullet wound that Jack could treat.
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[brendu]

Claire had the "smoke monster infection" and was cured by that pill. I'm guessing this is why she was able to have the baby on the island and also why Locke could walk.

when did claire take the pill?? that would not have happened until after she had the baby... im not sure where you came to that theory... also not sure how your connecting it to lockes ability to walk...

i also had the thought that jacob might claim sayid's body... thats why he wanted hurley to get him to the temple... but since loke's body is still there and dead, would that mean sayid will die and then jacob will appear in sayid's form while his dead body is still there?

 

[Surely]

^^^ I think that Claire was never given the pill and the darkness took over. Or if she was given it, the darkness had already claimed or destroyed a big part of her. Perhaps she will be able to remember who she was now that she has made contact with Jin (and eventually the other survivors).

Why is she like Russo now?

Can't be the smoke monster the cabin was surrounded by that ash stuff.

That doesn't mean crap. The ash could've been put there to trap the monster in....

2) I remember seeing a break in the ash around Jacob's cabin. I believe that was when Ilana went there? Does that mean smokey was able to get into the cabin at some point? Or get out (as previously mentioned by fireshot91)?

Yes, there was a break in the ash circle that surrounded the cabin, and Ilana was the one that noticed it. The text at the bottom of the screen in the "enhanced" episode that they showed before last night's new episode mentioned that. That means that the Smoke Monster was either able to get in or get out.


I think that Miles is questioning whether Sayid really died or not. He was asking him what he saw when he died (a white light, etc.), and Sayid said he didn't see anything. Miles seemed confused by this. I would guess that some of the dead people that he's spoken to have told him that they've seen a white light or something when they died.

One thing that really bothered me about the show last night was the lack of communication between the characters. That's pretty much par for the course for Lost, but last night it seemed a little too forced by the writers. They just don't say enough to each other when they have conversations. For example, if the Japanese guy just told Jack what was in the pill and why Sayid needs to take it without being vague and cryptic, my guess is Jack would given him the pill (and that would have saved us from watching 25 minutes of the pill storyline). If they would have explained why they tortured Sayid, maybe Jack would understand them. If they would have explained who there were when Jack demanded to know instead of holding them prisoner and beating them up, maybe they would work together, and maybe Sawyer wouldn't have run off.

 

[Lyle]

this leads to the somehow different lives of the losties (eg. ... sun and jin are not married, ...)

A quick aside: I read elsewhere (maybe on the IMDb "Lost" forums) that in Korea it is not customary for a wife to take her husband's last name. The fact that Sun goes by "Ms. Paik" in the new timeline therefore doesn't necessarily indicate that she and Jin are unmarried.

Another aside: I finished (re-)watching Season 1, and just started Season 2, and it reminded me that the cold open for Season 2---where we see Desmond down in the Swan station, before the Losties blow up the hatch---was perhaps one of the best cold opens for any show that I've ever seen.

 

[Disc Golfer]

How do you even end a mess like LOST? What would be a "good" ending for you?

It boggles my mind the way that television must be run. You either have a series like Lost, which will finish up its story (likely in a forced manner) but it's convoluted and bass ackwards for most of the series. Or you have a show that has a developing plot, makes sense and is fun to watch, that gets canceled in the first or second season. W. TF. At least they have really hot people wasting our time, for example Claire's a babe. I wouldn't probably keep watching if it weren't for the characters' abilities to remain sexy for months despite being stranded on a seriously whacked out desert island.

 

[Surely]

A quick aside: I read elsewhere (maybe on the IMDb "Lost" forums) that in Korea it is not customary for a wife to take her husband's last name. The fact that Sun goes by "Ms. Paik" in the new timeline therefore doesn't necessarily indicate that she and Jin are unmarried.

I had no reason to believe that Sun and Jin aren't married in the other timeline. While they were on the plane, Jin told Sun to button up her top button on her sweater. Sun obliged, like a submissive wife. Jin wouldn't have had the right to say that to her if they weren't married. I think that they are as unhappily married in this timeline as they were in the other timeline before they crashed on the island. I think that we have yet to discover the difference in their lives yet.

 

[Peace]

when did claire take the pill?? that would not have happened until after she had the baby... im not sure where you came to that theory... also not sure how your connecting it to lockes ability to walk...

i also had the thought that jacob might claim sayid's body... thats why he wanted hurley to get him to the temple... but since loke's body is still there and dead, would that mean sayid will die and then jacob will appear in sayid's form while his dead body is still there?

I might be wrong but when Jack and the Japanese guy . Dogen ?. When they were having a conversation Jack asks him how he knows the pill cures the "infection". Dogen's response was "because you're sister had it". Now I may have heard it wrong and he actually said "your sister HAS it".

If this is the case the poison pill doesn't kill the body. Thats obvious because later on Claire is seen shooting the two others.

 

[Lyle]

I had no reason to believe that Sun and Jin aren't married in the other timeline. While they were on the plane, Jin told Sun to button up her top button on her sweater. Sun obliged, like a submissive wife. Jin wouldn't have had the right to say that to her if they weren't married. I think that they are as unhappily married in this timeline as they were in the other timeline before they crashed on the island. I think that we have yet to discover the difference in their lives yet.

I agree that as best we can tell they are still unhappily married, and it's unclear how this change has affected them. There's a chance that Sun doesn't know English in this new timeline; that is (so far) still ambiguous.

 

[balamw]

I might be wrong but when Jack and the Japanese guy . Dogen ?. When they were having a conversation Jack asks him how he knows the pill cures the "infection". Dogen's response was "because you're sister had it". Now I may have heard it wrong and he actually said "your sister HAS it".

If this is the case the poison pill doesn't kill the body. Thats obvious because later on Claire is seen shooting the two others.

I thought he said something to the effect that "once the infection reaches the heart there won't be anything left of your friend, because that's what happened to your sister." Implying that Claire didn't take the pill and is now totally un-Claire.

B

 

[Surely]

^^^^ Yeah, that sounds right.

I might be wrong but when Jack and the Japanese guy . Dogen ?. When they were having a conversation Jack asks him how he knows the pill cures the "infection". Dogen's response was "because you're sister had it". Now I may have heard it wrong and he actually said "your sister HAS it".

If this is the case the poison pill doesn't kill the body. Thats obvious because later on Claire is seen shooting the two others.

I think he meant that Claire had/has the infection. I don't think that he said enough for us to know if she was given the pill or not.