Lost TV show (Season 6) -- includes spoilers on show nights

[Doctor Q]

If everyone on Oceanic Flight 815 was brought to the island as a "candidate" then maybe by the end of the series we'll learn how they've been judged. Then we can make a list of when and why each "losing" candidate was rejected. We already know how we feel about the characters, from snarling and sarcastic Sawyer to hapless and hungry Hurley -- they each have their good qualities and their faults -- but we'd be able to look back at everything that's happened from the point of view of the powers that control the island.

Maybe we'll re-watch the entire series repeatedly, one major character at a time!
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[Peace]

If everyone on Oceanic Flight 815 was brought to the island as a "candidate" then maybe by the end of the series we'll learn how they've been judged. Then we can make a list of when and why each "losing" candidate was rejected. We already know how we feel about the characters, from snarling and sarcastic Sawyer to hapless and hungry Hurley -- they each have their good qualities and their faults -- but we'd be able to look back at everything that's happened from the point of view of the powers that control the island.

Maybe we'll re-watch the entire series repeatedly, one major character at a time!
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Jacob seems to like Hurley a lot from what I've seen. I mean he doesn't go around giving directions to other people while he's dead. and yes. I know Hurley sees dead people and Jacob gave directions to Richard but that was by proxy.


Or is he really dead ?

 

[rdowns]

Thanks guys. Just watched last night's episode and then read the thread. Still confused.

 

[Peace]

Thanks guys. Just watched last night's episode and then read the thread. Still confused.

Maybe this will help you

 

[pilotError]

My first though when I saw that church in the mirror was that it was the church where Saywer's parents' funeral was held....the same church where Jacob met James Ford/Sawyer.

Don't know exactly what it actually is, but it looks more like a wood frame church in the mirror while the lamppost church looks to be a solid-stone, more gothic structure.

I thought it was the Church where Eloise Hawking kept the pendulum.

 

[mysterytramp]

I can't find a pic of the outside of the Lamp Post but here is a diagram of it.

If you add up the lines there are 36. Or 360 degrees. Same as in the Lighthouse.

Which is reminiscent of the South Korean flag:

I took the lighthouse to be very metaphorical ... First, Jack's line about never seeing it before ... Second, there's a dramatic lameness in introducing it and then destroying it if it has any real significance. ... Third, Jacob's line that Jack needs to know he's special.

And if the lighthouse is there to serve as a visual aid for one of Jacob's lessons, what else does? The Temple? The four-footed statue? The Dharma Initiative itself?

The line about Jack feeling special reveals a significant nuance in Jacob's character. MIB: "They come. They fight. They corrupt. They kill. It always ends the same." Sounds like a guy who believes in predestination. Jacob: "It only ends once, anything that happens before that... is just progress." I took that to mean he's a guy who believes in free will.

But can Jacob represent free will and still say Jack has a purpose (a destiny)? They seem contradictory (like everything else in Lost).

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[0098386]

The line about Jack feeling special reveals a significant nuance in Jacob's character. MIB: "They come. They fight. They corrupt. They kill. It always ends the same." Sounds like a guy who believes in predestination. Jacob: "It only ends once, anything that happens before that... is just progress." I took that to mean he's a guy who believes in free will.

But can Jacob represent free will and still say Jack has a purpose (a destiny)? They seem contradictory (like everything else in Lost).

Maybe this progress can be random, but it will all end up the same. Like a metaphor for Lost itself, with the writers admitting they had the final scenes in mind when they started the show.

I think Jacob likes Hurley because he's the easiest to, well not manipulate, but control. Hurley seems to be the mediator between all factions.

 

[Nieval]

Has anyone here seen "The Constant" episode recently?
It got me thinking that whatever was happening to Desmond in that episode, is somehow related to the alternative timeline of the candidates in season 6. Desmond's "timeline-jumping" is triggered by leaving the Island on a wrong axis but only he is affected because he was the only one onboard that was recently exposed to large amounts of radiation beforehand (the hatch explosion).
Now the hydrogen bomb explosion that Daniel had advised Jack and co. to do could have exposed everyone at the site to tons of radiation and triggered whatever was happening to Desmond back in season 4 to happen to them now, but modified in some sort of way. The fact that the flash sideways has so far focused on those who were at the bomb explosion site makes me think that there's something in this theory but what exactly I don't quite know yet.
Does anyone else here want to entertain this idea?

 

[Surely]

Sun wasn't at the bomb explosion site, and one of the flash-sideways involved both Jin and her.

 

[Nieval]

Sun wasn't at the bomb explosion site, and one of the flash-sideways involved both Jin and her.

Perhaps it was focused on her husband and she was there as a by product. Remember how the list only said Kwon and Flocke couldn't tell if it was Jin or Sun.

 

[Surely]

Perhaps it was focused on her husband and she was there as a by product. Remember how the list only said Kwon and Flocke couldn't tell if it was Kim or Sun.

I remember that, but Jacob did touch them both when he congratulated them at their wedding.

Maybe it's their unborn child...... and when he touched them, he was really touching his sperm and her egg.

/Ewww........

 

[mstrze]

Has anyone here seen "The Constant" episode recently?
It got me thinking that whatever was happening to Desmond in that episode, is somehow related to the alternative timeline of the candidates in season 6. Desmond's "timeline-jumping" is triggered by leaving the Island on a wrong axis but only he is affected because he was the only one onboard that was recently exposed to large amounts of radiation beforehand (the hatch explosion).
Now the hydrogen bomb explosion that Daniel had advised Jack and co. to do could have exposed everyone at the site to tons of radiation and triggered whatever was happening to Desmond back in season 4 to happen to them now, but modified in some sort of way. The fact that the flash sideways has so far focused on those who were at the bomb explosion site makes me think that there's something in this theory but what exactly I don't quite know yet.
Does anyone else here want to entertain this idea?

You can recall one of the issues in the constant was bleeding from the nostrils...well...remember the odd blood on Jack's neck on the plane?

I'm not saying it's the same thing certainly, but we have yet to hear a reason for his odd bleeding.

 

[Peace]

You can recall one of the issues in the constant was bleeding from the nostrils...well...remember the odd blood on Jack's neck on the plane?

I'm not saying it's the same thing certainly, but we have yet to hear a reason for his odd bleeding.

Two reasons for the nosebleeds :

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Bleeding_nose

Either Time Travel or Gas.

 

[Bostonaholic]

Two reasons for the nosebleeds :

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Bleeding_nose

Either Time Travel or Gas.

and snorting heroin... Charlie.

 

[barr08]

Two reasons for the nosebleeds :

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Bleeding_nose

Either Time Travel or Gas.

Well we know that time travel causes nose bleeds, and I believe Faraday postulated that it has to do with the brain's internal clock, but I do believe the nosebleeds on the Island during the time flashes and the nosebleeds as a result of the 'time sickness' are definitely related. I also believe that the 'time sickness' has something to do with being stuck between parallel realities (as opposed to parallel timelines), and I think they're going to bring that all together soon.

 

[748s]

When I first saw the "kid in the jungle" I thought it was Sawyer.
Seems like they are all meeting up in Alt. reality, so,
David Shepards piano teacher is Dan Farraday.
Davids mother/Jacks ex is Juliette.
Juliette is not home because she is having a coffee with sawyer.
Desmond sails into a storm and arrives at the Island even though the lighthouse is broken.

All minor stuff.
How's it all tying together?
That's the mystery

 

[Nieval]

I also believe that the 'time sickness' has something to do with being stuck between parallel realities (as opposed to parallel timelines), and I think they're going to bring that all together soon.

That's why I believe Juliet said it worked, she was slipping into her alternate timeline and leaving the Island timeline unlike Desmond who was flipping between both in the Constant.

 

[techfreak85]

That's why I believe Juliet said it worked, she was slipping into her alternate timeline and leaving the Island timeline unlike Desmond who was flipping between both in the Constant.

Interesting.... I like it.

 

[Bostonaholic]

Watching the episode again right now and I had a revelation:

We never new why Sun didn't travel back the second time around. I'm thinking it's because she's not a candidate. That must mean that the Kwon on the list is Jin.

My guess.

But why didn't Locke's dead body travel back in time with the crash?

 

[brendu]

When I first saw the "kid in the jungle" I thought it was Sawyer.
Seems like they are all meeting up in Alt. reality, so,
David Shepards piano teacher is Dan Farraday.
Davids mother/Jacks ex is Juliette.
Juliette is not home because she is having a coffee with sawyer.
Desmond sails into a storm and arrives at the Island even though the lighthouse is broken.

All minor stuff.
How's it all tying together?
That's the mystery

How could desmond have arrived at the island if it sunk? the lighthouse would have been underwater...

I think sawyer is going to con Juliette in the flashsideways, or plan on conning her only to fall for her...

 

[748s]

How could desmond have arrived at the island if it sunk? the lighthouse would have been underwater...

I think sawyer is going to con Juliette in the flashsideways, or plan on conning her only to fall for her...

'Leaving LA Desmond' (after getting out of hospital) goes to the above water island with Penny & Charlie.

'Sideways going to LA Desmond' is ???? married to Nadia*? The island is under water in this version of reality.

*wild guess at what sideways Desmond is doing.

 

[gibbz]

I thought it was the Church where Eloise Hawking kept the pendulum.

In the re-air tonight, the text mentioned specifically that the temple in the mirror was where Jin and Sun were married and that the church was where the funeral was held for Sawyer's parents.

 

[King Mook Mook]

Two reasons for the nosebleeds :

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Bleeding_nose

Either Time Travel or Gas.

Also I think that you forget a very important reason for nose bleeds. I think that we all remember when we were kids and when we picked our noses, what happened? Yes, nose bleeds.
I would not pout it past the Lost producers to just explain the nose bleeds by the characters picking their noses too often. If they did that I would laugh so hard!
So my conclusion: The Lost characters picked their noses and hence nose bleeds.

 

[Surely]

I'm really losing my patience with this show.... they keep advertising that answers will be revealed.... where were my friggin' answers tonight?

I thought that the episode was a little weak tonight.

Why would Kate just keep walking with Claire and Sayad with that look on her face? I didn't get the impression that they would have killed her if she would have turned and went the other way as they were Reservoir Dog-walking out of the Temple.

 

[GoCubsGo]

Recap from someone who watched season 1, stopped, then watched season 2-5 in a matter of weeks and is now caught up ...

no answers, still on island, locke is in change but he's not locke, jack still needs a tooth fixed, kate is still cute in a hetro sorta way, claire is crazy, richard has pretty eyes and does his eyeliner real good.