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Can you expand on this some more? I really don't understand this line of reasoning that, as you say, "cheapens" Lost.

Perhaps I don't see it because I find too many parallels between the world of Lost and the world we live in. There are so many struggles we face that we never fully understand. There are always things in life that we simply can't explain. Why would anyone expect a fictional world to be any different?

Why do you, and others, think that the writing is poorly thought out just because it doesn't read like a science text?

In my opinion, it was gutsy for the writers to end the show the way they did. They knew they would be leaving these mysteries open, but they chose to keep it more true to life. I think it is admirable and brilliant writing, not a cheap cop out.

Fine, keep the mysteries hidden. Last night I was actually somewhat at peace with questions not being answered, right up until the scene when Jack's dad shows up. Prior to that point, I had teared up no less than 3 times, which I can't remember ever happening during a TV show before. The second I see Christian, the emotion I had went from happiness and satisfaction to disappointment, and I stopped caring about everything that had happened in the alternate timeline prior to that point.

The problem is, aside from the mysteries, the ending we did get was a cop out. All of the events we've been watching unfold in the alternate reality never actually happened. Why was Jack's son important if he wasn't real? Why did we care about Sayid's ex-girlfriend and her husband's problems if they weren't real? All of it being a ploy for them to "move on" was not a satisfying conclusion for a show that has been brilliant over the last 6 six years in mysteries and destiny. It isn't even original. It is a copy of the plot of Stay and Passengers. LOST was a show that was better than that ending, and it deserved better. It was never about being "true to life". 10 minutes ruined 6 years for me (and many other people I suspect).

An ending, that I would have been happy with, would have been a final flash when Jack replaced the stone, and then we're back to the alternate timeline, where everyone finally remembers being on the island, realizing that the bomb worked. They're off the island, but they still remember each other, which ties back into last season with the bomb, and the sadness surrounding the reality of their not knowing each other if it worked.
 
Huh?? Where did you come up with that?

In my brain.:p

The reason they showed the deserted beach was to give as some perspective. As important as those characters were to us, it was just a small period of the Island's existence. They showed us the beach just after they finished telling the story of the 815 survivors. That story had ended, but the Island is still there.

The remnants of the plane will continue to sit on the beach, and the next visitors to the Island will see them there.
 
Fine, keep the mysteries hidden. Last night I was actually somewhat at peace with questions not being answered, right up until the scene when Jack's dad shows up. Prior to that point, I had teared up no less than 3 times, which I can't remember ever happening during a TV show before. The second I see Christian, the emotion I had went from happiness and satisfaction to disappointment, and I stopped caring about everything that had happened in the alternate timeline prior to that point.

The problem is, aside from the mysteries, the ending we did get was a cop out. All of the events we've been watching unfold in the alternate reality never actually happened. Why was Jack's son important if he wasn't real? Why did we care about Sayid's ex-girlfriend and her husband's problems if they weren't real? All of it being a ploy for them to "move on" was not a satisfying conclusion for a show that has been brilliant over the last 6 six years in mysteries and destiny. It isn't even original. It is a copy of the plot of Stay and Passengers. LOST was a show that was better than that ending, and it deserved better. It was never about being "true to life". 10 minutes ruined 6 years for me (and many other people I suspect).

An ending, that I would have been happy with, would have been a final flash when Jack replaced the stone, and then we're back to the alternate timeline, where everyone finally remembers being on the island, realizing that the bomb worked. They're off the island, but they still remember each other, which ties back into last season with the bomb, and the sadness surrounding the reality of their not knowing each other if it worked.

Truly sad that 10 minutes ruined a whole 6 seasons for you.

Honestly, you guys take this way too seriously.
 
Everybody died in the plane crash.

Only those "lost" found themselves on the island.

Every flash forward-backward-sideways was a "dream".

Their minds, being freed from the physical were able to make leaps that the living can not.

wrong

wrong

wrong

partially correct.

Please re-watch the show and come back :)
 
I'm just saying that it's utterly ridiculous. The last ten minutes of a six year show disappoints someone, so all that time they loved the show doesn't matter? Come on.

Well, in my defense, I'm not the only one who feels that way. I feel cheated out of a real ending. But yea, there was no point to any of the show now. If they weren't going to reset the timeline, there was no point in taking us through the last two seasons at all. All of the time travel -- BS. And if the mysteries and mythology didn't matter, then the prior 4 seasons didn't matter either.

I agree with others who have said that you could have watched just the first and last episode and came away with all you need to know. Everything else was just filler to make some big bucks on commercials.
 
Well, in my defense, I'm not the only one who feels that way. I feel cheated out of a real ending. But yea, there was no point to any of the show now. If they weren't going to reset the timeline, there was no point in taking us through the last two seasons at all. All of the time travel -- BS. And if the mysteries and mythology didn't matter, then the prior 4 seasons didn't matter either.

I agree with others who have said that you could have watched just the first and last episode and came away with all you need to know. Everything else was just filler to make some big bucks on commercials.


THAT my friend is what commercial television is all about.;)
 
Fine, keep the mysteries hidden. Last night I was actually somewhat at peace with questions not being answered, right up until the scene when Jack's dad shows up. Prior to that point, I had teared up no less than 3 times, which I can't remember ever happening during a TV show before. The second I see Christian, the emotion I had went from happiness and satisfaction to disappointment, and I stopped caring about everything that had happened in the alternate timeline prior to that point.

The problem is, aside from the mysteries, the ending we did get was a cop out. All of the events we've been watching unfold in the alternate reality never actually happened. Why was Jack's son important if he wasn't real? Why did we care about Sayid's ex-girlfriend and her husband's problems if they weren't real? All of it being a ploy for them to "move on" was not a satisfying conclusion for a show that has been brilliant over the last 6 six years in mysteries and destiny. It isn't even original. It is a copy of the plot of Stay and Passengers. LOST was a show that was better than that ending, and it deserved better. It was never about being "true to life". 10 minutes ruined 6 years for me (and many other people I suspect).

An ending, that I would have been happy with, would have been a final flash when Jack replaced the stone, and then we're back to the alternate timeline, where everyone finally remembers being on the island, realizing that the bomb worked. They're off the island, but they still remember each other, which ties back into last season with the bomb, and the sadness surrounding the reality of their not knowing each other if it worked.

I had an entire response written up to you and when I hit submit the forum asked me to sign in again and then took me to the main forum page. :rolleyes:

I'll try to remember what I had written at some point. :eek:

EDIT: My point was, in a nutshell, that the people, like yourself, who are disappointed seem to be more focused on the physical mysteries (i.e. what exactly is smokey, what was the energy, etc) while those like myself paid more attention to the character development. It was much more well written, but I don't have time to rewrite it right now.

EDIT2: My hubby said it well: "it's a direct analogue to life. We live day to day focusing on details and solving little problems, reaching individual goals. To realize that what really matters is our relationships is a blunt realization, particularly if you've devoted so much of yourself to personal interests. Kinda how Ben couldn't move on."
 
I had an entire response written up to you and when I hit submit the forum asked me to sign in again and then took me to the main forum page. :rolleyes:

I'll try to remember what I had written at some point. :eek:

EDIT: My point was, in a nutshell, that the people, like yourself, who are disappointed seem to be more focused on the physical mysteries (i.e. what exactly is smokey, what was the energy, etc) while those like myself paid more attention to the character development. It was much more well written, but I don't have time to rewrite it right now.

I would like to have had more answers, because there was so much emphasis on mysteries that seemed to be in play, but in the end didn't even matter. I'm primarily disappointed, though, at the ending for the characters, not the lack of answers about the mysteries. The purgatory ending was horrible, IMO. It was an easy conclusion. People guessed that is how it would end years ago. If they had survived and reset the timeline, I would have been satisfied. I'm going to pretend that is how it ended. Maybe the DVD will have some alternate endings and I'll just pretend like I didn't see the last 10 minutes of the finale.
 
For those of you that believe you've just wasted 6 years of commitment to LOST, give it 5 more minutes and read this article; for those of you that were satisfied read it as well, I'm sure you'll find it an intriguing complement to your interpretations.
 
Since you’re the Lost prophet, can’t you just tell us what it all meant?:)

Sorry, I only see the future. ;)

I had an entire response written up to you and when I hit submit the forum asked me to sign in again and then took me to the main forum page. :rolleyes:

Rage.

My point was, in a nutshell, that the people, like yourself, who are disappointed seem to be more focused on the physical mysteries (i.e. what exactly is smokey, what was the energy, etc) while those like myself paid more attention to the character development.

This is what I'm finding hard to believe. How people can confuse the purpose of this show is hard for me to grasp. Even without the flashbacks I can imagine I would have developed a strong bond to a lot of the characters on this show. If it wasn't about the people, they wouldn't have spent so much time with the flashbacks throughout the first few seasons. Rather, it would have been about the technological developements that produced a crackling, lightning infused cloud of black smoke and/or the technical reasons why following ONLY a specific bearing would allow you to reach the island.

I didn't care much for Walt and Michael but Walt is the one missing puzzle piece into which I wish they would have put a little more time.
 
How is it that talking to Smokey makes it impossible for a third-party to kill him (re: Sayid and Dogen's dagger)... but Ben is able to kill Jacob?
I don't know, and this seems like a gigantic plot hole to me unless...

I took the whole "If he speaks, you're too late" to mean if he begins talking to you, he's going to sway you to his way of thinking so it'll be too late to kill him.
This. The rule wasn't literally, "If you hear him (Jacob or the MiB) speak it's too late," but rather Unspeaked's interpretation. So even though Jacob spoke to Ben, Ben was so ticked off that he killed him anyways.

By the way, there are some really intriguing theories over at Lostpedia about how MiB's manipulation of Ben, Richard and Locke was a kind of "long con" to achieve his end goal of killing Jacob. The theory (which seems pretty solid in hindsight) is that Ben never knew Jacob, that Ben was (unwittingly) under the MiB's influence his entire life. I recommend checking it out if you're into that kind of thing. ;)
 
Was it a new revelation that Jack and Juliette had a kid together in the side-story? If it wasn't I must have missed that they were ever an item.
 
I stopped watching lost at the end of season two when I realized that the plot was going nowhere.

I am so glad i did, hours of my life saved from the peril of trying to figure out what the hell the writers meant, while the writers themselves laughed themselves silly thinking about the dumb masses wasting their time with this stupid show.

You stopped watching LOST, yet you visit this forum? That is ridiculous.
 
I was starting to think that the only reason they neglected to show Christian Shepherd the entire season was they either couldn't afford the actor or they couldn't get him do to availability.

I think the largest plot holes in the story revolve around what actually happened with "The Incident"... and the nuke.

It's never explained what the purpose of the Dharma Initiative was in the Flash-Sideways timeline. It's referenced that there was an island... Ben and Roger were there. Daniel Widmore mentions setting off a nuke (in his other life).

Sunk Island = Dead World, Floating Island = Living World

The only thing I'm happy about with the finale was that Richard and Frank's fates are left open and vague.
 
I stopped watching lost at the end of season two when I realized that the plot was going nowhere.

I am so glad i did, hours of my life saved from the peril of trying to figure out what the hell the writers meant, while the writers themselves laughed themselves silly thinking about the dumb masses wasting their time with this stupid show.


Well thank Jacob you came to post here today. It's been a long 4 years and we've really missed you. :rolleyes:
 
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