Lost TV show (Season 6) -- includes spoilers on show nights

[skinnylegs]

I know a lot of people are theorizing that Jacob has taken on the form of Sayid. There's one thing that doesn't make sense in terms of this theory. When smokey took on Locke's form, the actual *body* of Locke still existed. When Sayid died, his body was right there then simply appeared to reanimate. That's not consistent with smokey/Locke.

 

[themoonisdown09]

I know a lot of people are theorizing that Jacob has taken on the form of Sayid. There's one thing that doesn't make sense in terms of this theory. When smokey took on Locke's form, the actual *body* of Locke still existed. When Sayid died, his body was right there then simply appeared to reanimate. That's not consistent with smokey/Locke.

I don't think Jacob took on the form of Sayid either.

When they first went into the room with the water, the "others" couldn't believe that the water wasn't clear. The boss of the "others" cut his hand and put it in the water for a second, and then took it out and looked at it. My guess was he was checking to see if the water was healing still.

What I don't understand is why they still put Sayid in the water if it wasn't really working. The boss did say that they were taking a chance, but obviously if it didn't heal his hand, it wouldn't heal Sayid.

Anyways, what I think I'm trying to say is that Sayid was finally healed by the water. Either that, or I don't know what I'm saying.

 

[abijnk]

Also remember Miles's talent. He is sitting near Sayid's body and looking at it quizically. Someone (I think it was Hurley, but don't remember exactly) asks him what it is, and he says nothing. Maybe that's what it really was: nothing. Sayid wasn't dead, so Miles couldn't hear anything from him.

 

[themoonisdown09]

Good news... the Lost box set will be released on Blu-ray on August 24, 2010! You can already preorder it on Amazon. This just made my day.

By the way, it's 5,074 minutes long on 36 discs! It's also going for $195.99 on Amazon with a retail price of $279.99.

 

[mysterytramp]

To me, one of the most interesting bits of dialog is when Locke/Smoke Monster says something like, "Do you know what I had to do to do this?" (I believe he was expounding on his loophole.)

It made me think that most of what we've seen -- Widmore as a soldier in the 50s, the arrival of the Dharma Initiative, the crash of Flight 815 -- is all part of Man in Black's end game to kill Jacob. If they've been around since the Egyptians, 50 years of manipulation might not be so strange.

And on purgatory ... what if the landing in LAX is supposed to represent purgatory?

And did anyone else think of Sonny Chiba when the one Temple guy showed up (the one who doesn't like the taste of English on his tongue)?

mt

 

[techfreak85]

Good news... the Lost box set will be released on Blu-ray on August 24, 2010! You can already preorder it on Amazon. This just made my day.

By the way, it's 5,074 minutes long on 36 discs! It's also going for $195.99 on Amazon with a retail price of $279.99.

Yay. I decided a while back that I was going to buy the Blu rays, but only in one big box set.

 

[skinnylegs]

When they first went into the room with the water, the "others" couldn't believe that the water wasn't clear. The boss of the "others" cut his hand and put it in the water for a second, and then took it out and looked at it. My guess was he was checking to see if the water was healing still.

Wow. I didn't pick up on that. Thanks for the insight!

 

[125037]

I know a lot of people are theorizing that Jacob has taken on the form of Sayid. There's one thing that doesn't make sense in terms of this theory. When smokey took on Locke's form, the actual *body* of Locke still existed. When Sayid died, his body was right there then simply appeared to reanimate. That's not consistent with smokey/Locke.

Unless smokey and Jacob are 2 seperate things..?


BTW: Did anyone notice that Walt and his dad didn't make a single frame in the pre-season premiere episode?

 

[Peace]

I know a lot of people are theorizing that Jacob has taken on the form of Sayid. There's one thing that doesn't make sense in terms of this theory. When smokey took on Locke's form, the actual *body* of Locke still existed. When Sayid died, his body was right there then simply appeared to reanimate. That's not consistent with smokey/Locke.

That happened around the same time Locke/Smokey bopped Richard over the head.

Did Richard die and Sayad come to life?

 

[gibbz]

That happened around the same time Locke/Smokey bopped Richard over the head.

Did Richard die and Sayad come to life?

I'm not too sure about that. Fake Locke picked Richard up. Would he do that if he were dead? Heck, I don't know. There are so many possibilities.

 

[Peace]

I'm not too sure about that. Fake Locke picked Richard up. Would he do that if he were dead? Heck, I don't know. There are so many possibilities.

He might be taking Richard to the Temple to heal him.

Remember the people in the Temple said the smoke monster was coming and closed the Temple.

Richard saw the flairs so Locke/Smokey (maybe ) killed him.

Keep in mind Jacob doesn't seem to age either.

[edit]

Actually in the space time continuum none of the Oceanic people seem to age.

 

[techfreak85]

He might be taking Richard to the Temple to heal him.

Remember the people in the Temple said the smoke monster was coming and closed the Temple.

Richard saw the flairs so Locke/Smokey (maybe ) killed him.

Lemme get this right. Richard is not Immortal, he just doesn't age.(?)

 

[Peace]

Unless smokey and Jacob are 2 seperate things..?


BTW: Did anyone notice that Walt and his dad didn't make a single frame in the pre-season premiere episode?

Smokey is the MIB from the beach aka Jacob's nemesis on the beach. And now in the form of Locke.

My question is.

Is Jacob really the good guy ?

After all Smokey did say all he wanted to do was go home too. Has Jacob been keeping him there against his will?

 

[spinnerlys]

Nestor Carbonell is now in the main credits (before the guest stars even bother to appear), so I doubt Flocke would have killed Richard.

 

[Zombie Acorn]

The season finale of the 6th season shows jack waking up when the plane lands, he drank too much on the plane and passed out. /story

 

[apfhex]

I know a lot of people are theorizing that Jacob has taken on the form of Sayid. There's one thing that doesn't make sense in terms of this theory.

Right, this was the FIRST thing I thought, but also agree it's not the case. We'll likely see why Sayid's life is important soon enough.

The most interesting comment to me was when False Locke said something to Richard along the lines of "seeing you without your chains". Since he's also apparently as un-aging as Jacob and Jacob's Nemesis, well, it seems they have an interesting back story to explain there.

 

[Peace]

On the plane going to LA X Charlie supposedly died and Kate told Jack there's nothing he can do yet Jack saved him.

In the Temple Sayad supposedly died and Kate told Jack the same thing.

Jack saved both people. Or raised them from the dead.Jack has the same power Jacob had. Remember Jacob told Hurley to take the group to the Temple.Jacob also told Hurley he was killed two hours earlier.

Jack is the new constant.

 

[Surely]

On the plane going to LA X Charlie supposedly died and Kate told Jack there's nothing he can do yet Jack saved him.

In the Temple Sayad supposedly died and Kate told Jack the same thing.

Jack saved both people. Or raised them from the dead.Jack has the same power Jacob had. Remember Jacob told Hurley to take the group to the Temple.Jacob also told Hurley he was killed two hours earlier.

Jack is the new constant.

I don't remember Kate saying anything to Jack on the plane to LAX about Charlie. The only Jack/Kate interaction was when Jack was waiting to go into the bathroom, and Kate came out and was escorted back to her seat by the US Marshall.

Jack cleared Charlie's airway, which was blocked by the condom of heroin. He wasn't dead yet- he was suffocating.

I don't think that Jack had anything to do with Sayid coming back to life either. I think Sayid just needed a little longer for the waters to heal him.

 

[lostfan916]

What I want to know is how in the hell did Desmond end up on the plane in last nights episode? He was never on the plane in the first place, we've been made to believe that it was Desmond's failure to enter the numbers at the hatch that caused the plane crash in the first place Of course I don't buy that, but still Desmond wasn't on the plane and hadn't even been in Australia, he was sailing around the world and was brought to the island during a bad storm.

That's going to seriously bug me until I find out how they explain that.

SLC

This is an alternate timeline, not the one we have seen. There are differences in this timeline, as noted in last night's episode (no wing outside Jack's seat window, Cindy only giving him one bottle instead of two, the conversation between Jack and Rose was different, etc.) This timeline is what happened as if the bomb went off - this is the aftermath of jughead. Jughead going off caused the island to sink in 1977. This means that everyone on the island sunk - including Widmore (as he was the leader of the Others at the time). Which means no race around the world for Desmond to participate. Who's to say he wasn't just in Australia? I mean I think there's going to be a reason for him being on the plane but it's not a stretch to say that he happened to be on the plane.

I don't remember Kate saying anything to Jack on the plane to LAX about Charlie. The only Jack/Kate interaction was when Jack was waiting to go into the bathroom, and Kate came out and was escorted back to her seat by the US Marshall.

Jack cleared Charlie's airway, which was blocked by the condom of heroin. He wasn't dead yet- he was suffocating.

I don't think that Jack had anything to do with Sayid coming back to life either. I think Sayid just needed a little longer for the waters to heal him.

If anything, I think the Charlie scene showed a parallel to the original timeline when Jack tried to save Charlie after Ethan had hung him and he appeared to be dead. I think we will continue to see these similarities in this new timeline to what happened on the island. The Boone and Locke interaction was also interesting.

 

[pilotError]

Miles claims Juliet said 'it worked', and if 'it' is Jack's plan of nuking the island, then it must have done something. Something changed in history, causing Desmond to be in Australia. Maybe the blast's timechanging effect affected Widmore, and therefore prevented Desmond from taking part in the race that got him to the island in the first place.
And exactly who are the new 'Others'? They did exist before the nuke messed things up, right? (Japanese guy from the Last Samurai is a boss btw)

When the Plane flies over the island, the island is under water. Desmond landed on the island during a sailing race. If the island is under water, the boat never hit the island and finished the race. Whidmore wasn't looking for the island anymore and Penny and Desmond live happily ever after...

One explanation... At this point, just about anything can work! LOL

 

[mstrze]

And exactly who are the new 'Others'? They did exist before the nuke messed things up, right? (Japanese guy from the Last Samurai is a boss btw)

Most of the people at the temple are from the Dharma village. Remember, when the mercenaries were coming to get Ben for Widmore, Ben told everyone to go to the temple, as that would be the only place where they would be safe. I am sure some of 'others' already lived there, such as our last samuri guy. Although I think the kids and the tailies that were there lived exclusively at the temple as I don't recall seeing them in the Dharma village. The temple is the original 'home' of the original others/hostiles.

 

[skinnylegs]

The most interesting comment to me was when False Locke said something to Richard along the lines of "seeing you without your chains".

My sense is that the Others are dead and their afterlife, if you will, is about serving Jacob and containing smokey. With Jacob "dead," Richard is no longer "chained" as in servitude?

 

[barr08]

The most interesting comment to me was when False Locke said something to Richard along the lines of "seeing you without your chains". Since he's also apparently as un-aging as Jacob and Jacob's Nemesis, well, it seems they have an interesting back story to explain there.

Remember, the Black Rock had a number of Slaves aboard when they found the Island, as demonstrated when the Survivors find the vessel in Season 1. I believe Richard was a slave aboard the BR, but was a 'good' person, so Jacob freed him, and gave him eternal life.

Perhaps Richard could have won eternal life as part of the game Jacob/MIB seem to be playing.

This is an alternate timeline, not the one we have seen. There are differences in this timeline, as noted in last night's episode (no wing outside Jack's seat window, Cindy only giving him one bottle instead of two, the conversation between Jack and Rose was different, etc.) This timeline is what happened as if the bomb went off - this is the aftermath of jughead. Jughead going off caused the island to sink in 1977. This means that everyone on the island sunk - including Widmore (as he was the leader of the Others at the time). Which means no race around the world for Desmond to participate. Who's to say he wasn't just in Australia? I mean I think there's going to be a reason for him being on the plane but it's not a stretch to say that he happened to be on the plane.

When the Plane flies over the island, the island is under water. Desmond landed on the island during a sailing race. If the island is under water, the boat never hit the island and finished the race. Whidmore wasn't looking for the island anymore and Penny and Desmond live happily ever after...

So, by this logic, if the bomb goes off and sinks the Island, Daniel Faraday and Penny Widmore would never be born, as Ellie and Charles would probably have died. I believe Ellie was pregnant with Faraday at the time of the explosion, and this was well before Charles had Penny.

BTW: Did anyone notice that Walt and his dad didn't make a single frame in the pre-season premiere episode?

Yes, this really stuck out to me. Walt has been in just about every season premiere and finale. It was a very interesting omission, one I think they did intentionally - keep him out of our minds until midway through this season when he makes his epic return to the Island.

Edit - this could have been unavoidable - Malcolm David Kelley (Walt) is now 17, so he would definitely stick out playing a 10 year old.

to tell you the truth im done trying to theorize about this show. some of what i have predicted has come true but most of it hasnt. its too stressful haha. im just going to see where the show takes me.

Seriously. At this point, I am sitting back and letting the Island tell me what happens next. One of the reasons why LOST is so popular is because we could sit here and theorize all day, but in reality, there's just so many directions the show can take.

 

[skinnylegs]

I'm beginning to figure out why they can't have babies on the island. With all of this time travel and alternate universe stuff going on I guess it's 'kinda up in the air whether any of these people *actually* had sex. I mean, someone may *think* they had sex but come to find out it never happened.

 

[barr08]

I would also like to propose the following possibility -

We know that the nemesis can control dead people to some extent, either their bodies or an image of their bodies. Now that Jacob is dead, it is conceivable that the nemesis can control Jacob's image, so it could be him giving directions to Hurley, and not Jacob. This could cause some major issues going forward.