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Yes, hundreds of feet. Do even a bit of research, and you'll find stories of U.S. Air Force pilots that have fallen TWO MILES and survived. I know my math fails me at this time of the day, but two miles translates into 10,000-plus feet.

The human body is an incredibly resilient force of nature. Do not, under any circumstances, dismiss the will to live. Or have you never pondered the blossom that makes its way through the tarmac in the coldest climate to bloom and proclaim: Here I stand. I can do no other.

Above a certain point, the distance one falls doesn't really matter. If I recall from my brief skydiving days, factoring the combined opposing effects of drag and gravity, the maximum velocity a human body can achieve in free fall (depending on the body's orientation and such) is no more than 130 or 140 mph. Falling from higher only means one falls longer, not faster. Physics geeks, correct me if I'm wrong...
 
Above a certain point, the distance one falls doesn't really matter. If I recall from my brief skydiving days, factoring the combined opposing effects of drag and gravity, the maximum velocity a human body can achieve in free fall (depending on the body's orientation and such) is no more than 130 or 140 mph. Falling from higher only means one falls longer, not faster. Physics geeks, correct me if I'm wrong...

i was never arguing that no ONE could have survived a crash like that ;)
my point was that more than 2 dozen people survived, pretty much unharmed - that is mathematically impossible. ergo, i think there is more to the story.
 
The Others Surveillance

also, this might have been pointed out before....

but how can the others know that sawyer shot a man the day before he boarded the plane?
i know they tried to explain that most of the information gathering was done by the russian guy thanks to the help of satellite uplinks to the outside world...but sawyer shooting a guy wouldn't be news.
UNLESS they had surveillance on him BEFORE he came to the island. and that would mean that the others activally planned who would come to the island/that they caused the crash.
Thoughs?
 
but how can the others know that sawyer shot a man the day before he boarded the plane?
i know they tried to explain that most of the information gathering was done by the russian guy thanks to the help of satellite uplinks to the outside world...but sawyer shooting a guy wouldn't be news.
UNLESS they had surveillance on him BEFORE he came to the island. and that would mean that the others activally planned who would come to the island/that they caused the crash.
Thoughs?
Maybe they hired their own private investigators (in Austraila and elsewhere) to gather the details.
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Above a certain point, the distance one falls doesn't really matter. If I recall from my brief skydiving days, factoring the combined opposing effects of drag and gravity, the maximum velocity a human body can achieve in free fall (depending on the body's orientation and such) is no more than 130 or 140 mph. Falling from higher only means one falls longer, not faster. Physics geeks, correct me if I'm wrong...
You're correct. The terminal velocity for a human is around 130-150 mph (based on what I've read).

...I love how the term "terminal velocity" gains another meaning when referring to humans. ;)
 
So Demond is guided Monks? Were there any other eater eggs in this episode besides that all knowing old woman being in the photo on the monk's desk?
I'm sure there was something on the wine label, but not recording the show makes such reviews difficult. All and all a good episode, when watching it my wife commented that Jin couldn't whistle very well... to which I replied "Well honey, he is trying to whistle in English...." :D The ghost story in Korean was also funny, I bet the translation will reveal that it is one of the 'ol campfire standards.

The one thing that bugged me about this episode is that they added another character! That's a lot of people brother!
 
Something that dawned on me after I deleted the show.

Did Charlie show up in the flashes where they were holding the parachute? Since they were 'maybe' out of order in Desmond's mind was he there and Desmond didn't take notice figuring it was before the arrow to the throat? Was he supposed to save Charlie?

Damn my fast TiVO fingers...
 
I'm sure some one will complain we got no answers this episode. But we now know Penny is sending out search parties, some incite into the type of person Desmond is (pattern of behavior), and most importantly we now know why he calls everyone brother.
 
Did Charlie show up in the flashes where they were holding the parachute?
Yes he did.

I'm sure there was something on the wine label...
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...besides that all knowing old woman being in the photo on the monk's desk?
For those who missed it:

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I found it interesting how in Desmond's flashback he was discussing Abrahams almost sacrifice of Isaac. While he was contemplating sacrificing Charlie. I figure parachute lady will live just long enough to say something cryptic.

Now if they could only find batteries.

Edit: Where is the professor when you need him. 6 coconuts and some lime juice and the leave ficii unobtanium which only grows on a few south pacific islands (including this one)
 
Did Charlie show up in the flashes where they were holding the parachute?

Yes he did.

Interesting, so Desmond's flashes are not necessarily consistent with what he thinks he is supposed to do...

If he hadn't saved Charlie the flash with the parachute should have only had Jin and Hurley...

But knowing how everyone on the island likes to share information this will probably slip past Desmond and he won't realize that he has this kind of wiggle room.
 
Anyone notice that Desmond didn't see the photograph on the monks desk? What's the "sodding ring" woman doing back?

Is the woman who plays Penny American or English? She looks American and sometimes breaks away from her accent...

Overall that was quite a good episode. In my caffeinated state it did appear to be another slow one, and more or less unimportant barring the new person. I mean does anyone actually care about this love triangle with Jack/Kate/Sawyer?
 
They are really setting up a showdown between Jack and Sawyer. That or Sawyer is going to just step up and look to be the leader. He actually figured out that Kate jumped his bones after she saw Jack with Juliet. :)

Certainly headed into Soap Opera territory with those 4.

The Jin campfire story was funny, holding up the Jacket with no hand. Hurley laughs like he understands it.

Seeing Charlie get it right away took me by surprise. I thought for a minute that the Producers just wanted to get it over with until I realized it was a flashback.

Sawyer finally mentioned Rose's husbands name (sorry I forget his name), so maybe they will pop up again before the end of the season.

Penny goes above and beyond looking for Desmond. Hopefully she wasn't in the helicopter when it went down.

Still nothing out of Juliet, she's just another member of their camp :confused:
 
Anyone notice that Desmond didn't see the photograph on the monks desk? What's the "sodding ring" woman doing back?
Can someone refresh my memory as to the significance of this woman? My feeble mind apparently can't keep the 6,578,932 characters on this show straight. :rolleyes:
 
She acted as some kind of "Oracle"-esque mentor (or just plain bully) in one of Desmonds flashbacks.

Actually, I rather liked how that episode played out. I hope we see more of these "but it's not really a flashback" episodes.
 
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