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atszyman said:
I would think it had to have been dragged. If there had been a plane I doubt all 40+ survivors would have missed the only plane to fly over the island in 2 months.

It was dark outside, so if the plane was flying very high they may not have heard or seen it.

Not saying I disagree...just thinking out loud...
 
I guess it's also reasonable to assume that the "AH" referred to on the map is Alvar Hanso. Not sure what MGD refers to, other than of course Miller Genuine Draft.

Edit: One map shows MGD, but the other shows MDG (with the last two letters reversed). Something having to do with DeGroot?
 
It seems most people think that the doors shut so the food drop could happen. Once that happened the doors opened.

My thought was that because the numbers weren't pressed in one of the hatches (I thought that was what the countdown was over the loudspeaker) that all hatches went on lockdown. Then when the numbers didn't get pressed in Lockes hatch the food drop happened. Then "Henry" punched in the numbers which opened the doors in Lockes hatch. That's what I thought when watching it anyway.
 
Henry was his name oh

A real twist could be Henry isn't one of the others, but just what he said he was, a hot air balloon pilot. He's just not who he said he was. Maybe he lied because he killed his co-pilot. Then again the others could really use another spy on the inside. So... yeah he is one of them.
 
SilentPanda said:
It seems most people think that the doors shut so the food drop could happen. Once that happened the doors opened.

My thought was that because the numbers weren't pressed in one of the hatches (I thought that was what the countdown was over the loudspeaker) that all hatches went on lockdown. Then when the numbers didn't get pressed in Lockes hatch the food drop happened. Then "Henry" punched in the numbers which opened the doors in Lockes hatch. That's what I thought when watching it anyway.

Its seems like the lockdown happened for the food drop.

Then again Henry could have called in the food drop instead of typing in the numbers, Maybe using a different set. You have to assume the others new about the periodic drops and perhaps Henry was sent to kife their stuff.

I think he does know something about the numbers etc. The question is what.

As for locke and wheel chair at first I expected him and peggy bundy there to get in some horrible car accident. Then yeah, worked over by the goons.

Locke's dad probably did rip off Sawyers.

Still no real clue about Jack's tattoo. The Phuket reference my have something to do with the Tsunami. Was Jack a relief worker or just on vacation?
 
What was The Prisoner Formerly Known as Henry's reaction to the numbers? I can't remember now. That might be important in that he noticed the numbers too. Always with the numbers.

I agree with most folk here. This episode is certainly the best so far. the way the played out the Sayid and co at the end. How they didn't speak till they got back to The Prisoner Formerly Known as Henry.

Funny how the The Prisoner Formerly Known as Henry is a real scrawny looking character and the Real Henry was a beefy looking black guy. Perhaps theres something in the opposites? Maybe it *really* is Henry? Cured Locke after all. Took a paraplegic and made him walk again.

I dunno. Just know that next weeks episode is going to be very good :) though I haven't seen any adverts for it yet.
 
Oh, wait I take it back

Wait a minute if the others set up this whole balloon story wouldn't they have at least been smart enough to put a female body in the grave? And you know they have bodies to spare. They kill with out remorse. I take it back and stick with my original theorey. Henry isn't one of the others. But Siad was right in feeling no remorse for beating him. Because he didn't burry some one he loved. And he is a liar and maybe a killer.
 
raggedjimmi said:
Funny how the The Prisoner Formerly Known as Henry is a real scrawny looking character and the Real Henry was a beefy looking black guy. Perhaps theres something in the opposites? Maybe it *really* is Henry? Cured Locke after all. Took a paraplegic and made him walk again.
Yes, I suppose it is possible that the island "cured" Henry of his blackness.
 
Plot threads

So no one was surprised Lock's dad was a con man? And how it might link back to Sawyer some how? Also didn't the writers say the the bodies (Adam & Eve) in the cave and those black and white stones would come into play this season? Oh well, at least we get to see Hurley lose his marbles next week.
 
Con man

I thought he was just a rich old hermit with no soul.
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I didn't think he was a pro. Nor did I make that link to Sawyer before now.
 
Since I firmly believe we are being led to think the wrong thing whenever possible, I will now guess that the prisoner really is named Henry Gale and the man in the grave stole poor Henry's identity, hence the ID card with the other man's photo and the name Henry Gale. And the real Henry was chasing the fake Henry, both of them in balloons, when they crashed due to the effect of the island's magnetic pull on their helium. Then they became friends and married each other, after which the fake Henry was killed by rabid polar bears and the real Henry buried "his wife". So he's been telling the truth all along! :)

But I think I won't put any money on that. ;)
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Basic Question..

Do we know what year this is supposedly taking place in? I mean, have they given us a reference point as to what year/month it is? They've been gone about what, 55-60 days at this point...but 60 days from when?

(This may have been stated at the very beginning....but I just don't remember.)
 
sarae said:
Do we know what year this is supposedly taking place in? I mean, have they given us a reference point as to what year/month it is? They've been gone about what, 55-60 days at this point...but 60 days from when?

(This may have been stated at the very beginning....but I just don't remember.)

There was probably a lot of hints in the 1st series. A good thing to do is watch out for medicine, phones, gadgets. usually give a good idea of the date. Because I'm unsure I'll be vague with "present day"
 
sarae said:
Do we know what year this is supposedly taking place in? I mean, have they given us a reference point as to what year/month it is? They've been gone about what, 55-60 days at this point...but 60 days from when?

(This may have been stated at the very beginning....but I just don't remember.)
I thought I was brilliant for figuring out the following, but see below for the proof that I wasn't as smart as I thought!

--- My first attempt to play Sherlock Holmes ---

At oceanic-air.com, they show the date of the flight date as September 22 and a tiny calendar (attached below) that indicates it was a Tuesday, assuming it shows each week from Sunday to Saturday.

The last time September 22 was a Tuesday was in 1998. Before that, 1992, 1987, 1981, and 1970.

Dates on the wall diagram refer to 1981, 1984, and 1985, with the one in 1985 definitely in the past tense. So that narrows it to 1998, 1992, and 1987.

Which means, by the way, that Rousseau was on the island before the last markings were made on that diagram.

Below "I AM HERE" on the digram, the digits 4.08.00 and 8.15.01 and 01.06.05 are presumbably dates. 15 can't be a month, and years wouldn't be shown with one digit, so the format must be m.dd.yy, meaning the dates are in 2000, 2001, and 2005, and the one(s) marked "COMPLETE SHUTDOWN IN EFFECT" are still in the future for the Losties.

--- Elementary, my dear Watson ---

My research above is wrong, because the DriveSHAFT site (for Charlie's band) clearly answers the question!
UPDATE - September 23, 2004 - We've just learned that Charlie was aboard a plane that has been reported missing somewhere in the South Pacific.
So oceanic-air.com's calendar shows each week from Monday to Saturday, and I was completely off base above. Oh well, at least we now know the answer.

That still means that January 6, 2005 (01.06.05) is in the very near future (if it's really been about 60 days since they crashed), and that's the date marked "COMPLETE SHUTDOWN IN EFFECT".
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I thought I was brilliant for figuring out the following, but see below for the proof that I wasn't as smart as I thought!

--- My first attempt to play Sherlock Holmes ---

At oceanic-air.com, they show the date of the flight date as September 22 and a tiny calendar (attached below) that indicates it was a Tuesday, assuming it shows each week from Sunday to Saturday.

The last time September 22 was a Tuesday was in 1998. Before that, 1992, 1987, 1981, and 1970.

Dates on the wall diagram refer to 1981, 1984, and 1985, with the one in 1985 definitely in the past tense. So that narrows it to 1998, 1992, and 1987.

Which means, by the way, that Rousseau was on the island before the last markings were made on that diagram.

Below "I AM HERE" on the digram, the digits 4.08.00 and 8.15.01 and 01.06.05 are presumbably dates. 15 can't be a month, and years wouldn't be shown with one digit, so the format must be m.dd.yy, meaning the dates are in 2000, 2001, and 2005, and the one(s) marked "COMPLETE SHUTDOWN IN EFFECT" are still in the future for the Losties.

--- Elementary, my dear Watson ---

My research above is wrong, because the DriveSHAFT site (for Charlie's band) clearly answers the question!
So oceanic-air.com's calendar shows each week from Monday to Saturday, and I was completely off base above. Oh well, at least we now know the answer.

That still means that January 6, 2005 (01.06.05) is in the very near future (if it's really been about 60 days since they crashed), and that's the date marked "COMPLETE SHUTDOWN IN EFFECT".
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I never knew about those websites. There must be tons of hints on them. I am amazed they put so much work into this stuff outside of the show.
 
Doctor Q said:
Below "I AM HERE" on the digram, the digits 4.08.00 and 8.15.01 and 01.06.05 are presumbably dates. 15 can't be a month, and years wouldn't be shown with one digit, so the format must be m.dd.yy, meaning the dates are in 2000, 2001, and 2005, and the one(s) marked "COMPLETE SHUTDOWN IN EFFECT" are still in the future for the Losties.

That's actually exactly why I was watching. I saw the '05 date and was wondering if it was something determined in the future, if it was something in the past, or if that date was their current lockdown.

So, now we know that (some) things are predetermined on the island. Question is, by whom?
 
I was just looking through the oceanic-air website again - was this ever noticed on this page. Check flight 572. I can't be bothered reading through 60 odd pages, but this probably refers to Walt, and has probably been there since the first series. Still, it's interesting, kind of.
 

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"The Others" = NBC

I know where they're hiding Walt. ;)

Malcolm David Kelley appeared on last night's episode of NBC's "My Name is Earl". I was hoping that they would throw in some subtle reference to "Lost", even though the shows are on different networks. If they did give any "Lost" shout-outs, though, I didn't catch it.
 
plinden said:
I was just looking through the oceanic-air website again - was this ever noticed on this page. Check flight 572. I can't be bothered reading through 60 odd pages, but this probably refers to Walt, and has probably been there since the first series. Still, it's interesting, kind of.
Whats even more interesting.
Go to the website and choose view/change flight. It will give you the departure and arrival citys use giveus as departure and the boy as as arrival and click find. it will pop up a seating chart. If you click pre-board check in it will pull up the name Ethan Rom. From there you can move the letters in the name around but I have not been able to take it further.

Also noticed that with the name Ethan Rom you can change the letters around and get "more than" Relevant??
 
Kiefer Sutherland to appear on ABC's Lost

The storyline is being kept under wraps, but sources say it involves Bauer crash-landing on the island in a WWII biplane after he is fired by CTU. Bauer and Lost character Sayid, an ex-Iraqi army interrogator, compete to see who is the best at devolving into paranoia under the guise of protecting the security of the island. The climax is said to feature the two engaging in a torture contest.

Read the rest here. Fox action series 24 and ABC supernatural drama engage in exciting form of cross-promotion.

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