Lubuntu 16.04 Remix (updated)

A few days ago I installed this onto my brother's ibook (although it's pretty much mine because he already has a desktop setup and keeps on complaining about how bad powerpc is) I installed Lubuntu 16.04 Remix
and I'm really enjoying it! The problem is that I was recently trying to run Sauerbraten to start from where I had left off on MacOSX and when I tried to look at the player models the laptop froze and then the screen went black and only the sound can be heard repeating without stopping. My brother and I tested it on another 3d game and same effect happened. Is it my opengl?
My specs are: Ibook G4 1.33Ghz 12", 1024 gb ram, ati mobility radeon hd 9550 32 mb, 80gb harddrive
Please help as soon as possible so I can get on with using it! Also the fan whirs really loudly and I've never heard it so loud on OSX, can anyone help with that?
 
I'm a bit perplexed, and as the one-page-at-a-time format isn't the easiest to search, I thought it might be best to finally give in and just ask here.

Are you supposed to use the standard Software Updater after installing either 12.04 or 16.04, or, for that matter, upgrade packages at all (even from CLI)? I've tried it a few times, after installing on a 1st-gen G5 iMac (PowerMac 8,1, 1.8ghz), and it seems to break very rapidly, unpredictably, and repair-prohibitively after that.

Also, any tips on downsizing from LXDE are appreciated. I tried that, perhaps a bit haphazardly, and broke another install. What I'm aiming for is setup like Puppy Linux; 900mhz at 'cruising speed' + 512mb doesn't go very far, and the more minimal the better.

Finally, with the aforementioned in mind, I'm curious which Remix is likely to be the better starting point for such a "G5 Puppy-like", 12.04 or 16.04.
 
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@Im_Percynator : are we talking about this happening on Linux or osx?

@James Gryphon : Strange. What's breaking? For your 900mhz machine i'd suggest 12 remix, then at the login screen choose the included openbox desktop instead of lxde for minimal desktop. General rule of thumb, after install reboot. Then close out of the graphical updater when it pop's up. Run sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade. After that's done reboot again. Now after the initial updates are applied you can use synaptic or lubuntu software center from here on out if you wish.

Cheers

Cheers
 
Getting Remix 16.04 up and going on a Mac mini tonight. Despite the freezes from not setting the graphics right, it is updating right now bit by bit. Appreciate your work on this!
 
Thanks. Due note however, if your mini has the crummy 32mb radeon 9200 gfx card, the default lxde desktop will lag when dragging windows around. You can solve that issue by installing and using a different DE/WM like icewm or openbox. Oddly that lag issue doesn't exist with the lxde packaged with ubuntu12. Also 12 remix will be lighter and faster on any G4. So just in case you feel 16 remix is sluggish on your mini, give 12 remix a spin. I've updated it enough to still be relevant and useable. I personally run 12 remix on my dual G5 and powerbook G4 because it hums right along on both.

Cheers
 
I have a problem with the shut down and my 7800GS on 16.04 v2

Sometimes on shut down i get a black screen with a cursor in the upper left corner. then i must press the button.

This problem comes after install the 7800GS. With a Radeon 9800 Pro i don't see this problem.

Any solution to prevent the hang on shutdown?
 
@wicknix This is on lubuntu remix 16.04, but I used to run macosx. Also I just found out the problem. Opengl is running the rv350 renderer; here's the problem, I need the rv360 renderer. Do you know how to change the renderer? (man, that word's getting repetitive!)
 
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Amethyst1 said:
Can you be more specific? Did you verify it burned correctly? Which machine is this on, and what happens exactly?
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Sure, I burned both MacBuntu-Remix and LUbuntu 12-remix to DVDs. (Actually burned MacBuntu twice in case it was a bad DVD.) When I hold down the option key, they both show up as options to boot from but when I select their icon, the screen flickers, goes black, then comes back on with the same open firmware boot screen (or whatever) but with glitchy graphics. Nothing happens.

If I boot into my Lubuntu 16 install and choose "c" for cdrom, they do not boot.

Again, this is on a Mac mini G4. The Lubuntu 16 DVD boots fine.
 
Let me go ahead and update:

I tried the DVDs on my G5, and they booted up. At this point, I may chalk this up to an ancient firewire DVD drive that is serving as the finicky link in the chain. I don't have a backup to use for my G4 as the old CD/DVD drive was long ago removed. Weird that the newer version of LUbuntu did work though.
 
@TzunamiOSX : I don't think Linux likes swapping of hardware. My guesses would be go back to using the 9800, or reinstall the OS with the new card installed beforehand, or continue to force shut down. There might be a quick fix available on the net somewhere though.

@Im_Percynator : Unfortunately i don't. That'd be a ubuntu/xorg/mesa issue. I myself just use the 2D framebuffer driver (radeonfb) since i dont play 3D games, and it works much better for video playback.

@NathanJHill : Strange. Nobody has posted that issue before. Can you burn it from another machine? Maybe your writer is going bad. Otherwise try burning them at the slowest speed possible like 2x or 4x. Not sure what else to say. They boot fine for everyone else who tried them, including myself.

Cheers
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@NathanJHill : Glad you figured it out. At any rate 16 will be fine, just slow window dragging with lxde on the 9200. Everything else will run normal speed, or as mentioned use a different DE/WM and it'll perk back to life without window lag. On a side note, i frequent your website often. I've never commented, but g5center has been a permanent bookmark on all my machines for a few years now. :)

Cheers
 
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wicknix said:
@TzunamiOSX : I don't think Linux likes swapping of hardware. My guesses would be go back to using the 9800, or reinstall the OS with the new card installed beforehand, or continue to force shut down. There might be a quick fix available on the net somewhere though.
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Reinstall after get this problem with no effect.

Yesterday i get this with a hanging shut down
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Yeah, Nvidia cards are not a good choice for ppc Linux. If you have the option, Radeon are the best supported. Only 1 of my machines has an Nvidia card (1.6ghz G5 w/FX5200) and it works in ubuntu, but barfs with debian 10. The open source nvidia (nouveau) drivers aren't very good either.

Cheers
 
wicknix said:
Yeah, Nvidia cards are not a good choice for ppc Linux. If you have the option, Radeon are the best supported. Only 1 of my machines has an Nvidia card (1.6ghz G5 w/FX5200) and it works in ubuntu, but barfs with debian 10. The open source nvidia (nouveau) drivers aren't very good either.

Cheers
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My iMac G4 with FX5200 is working well under Ubuntu Mate 16.04 but with my G5 i have Problems. Look like this is a known bug and you must add the boot option nomodeset to fix it, but i don't know where to add this

[Solved] Nouveau init failed (MMIO write fault) on LiveUSB start up / Installation / Arch Linux Forums

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wicknix said:
You can do that 2 ways. First when it boots where it says boot: type: Linux nomodeset
Second, to make it permanent: edit /etc/yaboot.conf and add nomodeset to the "append" line (which will probably have other parameters listed also), save, then open a terminal and type: sudo ybin -v to update yaboot.
More info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Configure_graphics

Cheers
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i will test it, but first i go to install and test macbuntu ;)
 
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Is Handbrake (newer than 0.9.5) not available under macbuntu (12.04)? Can’t find it under apt-get or in any Paket-Manager.
 
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Then i'd say no. You could use transmageddon or arista. Pretty much the same thing.
 
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wicknix said:
@NathanJHill : Glad you figured it out. At any rate 16 will be fine, just slow window dragging with lxde on the 9200. Everything else will run normal speed, or as mentioned use a different DE/WM and it'll perk back to life without window lag. On a side note, i frequent your website often. I've never commented, but g5center has been a permanent bookmark on all my machines for a few years now. :)

Cheers
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I appreciate the support - I was going to do a review of Remix there, but I'm sort of back at ground zero.

Lubuntu 16 started freezing quite often, even with OpenBox. Maybe the Mini is dying?

And my external Firewire/USB drive was on its last legs. I tore it apart, thinking I could retool a different drive in there to give it a little more life. Now, it won't even work. It's done.

So, I connected my Mac mini G4 in target mode to my G5, booted from the MacBuntu DVD, and installed to the Mac mini G4. Of course, Linux ain't very smart, so my Mac mini G4 won't boot. Shows the option to press L for Linux, M for Mac OS X (don't know why), and C for CDROM. Pressing L loops back to the same menu. I suppose I will need to go back into target mode and figure out how to make grub work, but it just gets boring after a while.
 
The freezing issue probably just means you missed this boot parameter: radeon.agpmode=-1
Known bug from way back on certain gfx cards. This will fix it.
After you hit L to boot linux then next screen shows "boot:". Type: Linux radeon.agpmode=-1 and hit enter.
This can be made to stick, for future boots, if need be without having to type anything.

Never tried with target disk mode. I'm just guessing the bootloader is confused where the system is actually installed and has the wrong drive aliases in its config.

Otherwise clear a small unformatted 10gb partition at the end of your G5's drive to install on too. Or toss in a spare drive to test with first (top drive bay or it wont boot). Too bad your mini doesnt have a working internal drive. It'd make life 100% easier for this. ;)

Cheers
 
wicknix said:
The freezing issue probably just means you missed this boot parameter: radeon.agpmode=-1
Known bug from way back on certain gfx cards. This will fix it.
After you hit L to boot linux then next screen shows "boot:". Type: Linux radeon.agpmode=-1 and hit enter.
This can be made to stick, for future boots, if need be without having to type anything.

Never tried with target disk mode. I'm just guessing the bootloader is confused where the system is actually installed and has the wrong drive aliases in its config.

Otherwise clear a small unformatted 10gb partition at the end of your G5's drive to install on too. Or toss in a spare drive to test with first (top drive bay or it wont boot). Too bad your mini doesnt have a working internal drive. It'd make life 100% easier for this. ;)

Cheers
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Yeah, I don't think I was being clear.

So, the Mac mini G4 is connected to my G5 via Firewire Target Disk mode. My G5 is booting the MacBuntu Remix Live CD to install Linux to the Mac Mini's hard drive. The install actually goes smoothly.

But then I want to turn off the Mac Mini and boot. However, Yaboot configures itself to expect to boot from a drive on a Firewire connection, not the internal drive. There does not appear to be a way to divine what the actual address of the internal hard drive is via the open firmware command. Furthermore, even though I have edited the Yaboot.conf multiple times, it refuses to change when I boot the G4. So weird.

I am trying again, but I guess Yaboot lives in multiple places? This is a Linux issue, not a MacBuntu Remix issue, AFAIK.
 
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