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The only new improvement over prior model that is noticeable to the user, is the screen.

The screen IS a large improvement and the only reason I buy IPad pros. But it’s only an incremental upgrade over prior outside of that, and hardly enough to induce such wasteful consumerism as ditching year old iPads for this.
I’m looking forward to an extra 12 GB of RAM over my 10.5 Pro, which can hopefully keep Safari from reloading tabs or hanging as often as it does.
 
You can only go so dark and then its just pure black. But you need big amounts of brightness for HDR. It is actually about the high peaks. The high peaks are very difficult to produce.

Exactly. It's about contrast. Which is why anything that can achieve 0.0005 nits of maximum black light only needs 540 nits of brightness to be premium certified...

...it isn't about brightness.
 
Without brightness how can you view those gradients? Even though OLED has so much more contrast ratio but you will still see more detail with microLED because of brighter screen.
If you can’t comprehend it just thinking about seeing a more detailed photo in 2X darker room vs. a bit less detailed photo in 2X brighter room. You would see much more detail in a latter situation.

Wrong. The OLED premium UHD spec minimums are 20x more dynamic than the LCD spec. Meaning there's a minimum of 20x more detail and range in an image.
 
HDR isn't about brightness.

HDR is about the combined effect of brightness PLUS darkness (creating contrast) -- or, the difference between the minimum brightness and the maximum darkness. I mean, it's even described in the name... high DYNAMIC RANGE.

OLEDs brightness on black is 0 - nil - making the contrast infinite. For comparisons sake, they often attribute the B specs maximum value of 0.0005 nits of black to it. With a minimum of 540 nits on the brightest end, you end up with contrast that's 20x higher than the best LCD displays at 1,080,000:1... and OLEDs are much brighter than 540 now... and again to reiterate, the brightness of black on an OLED being literally 0 makes the contrast infinite, it can't be quantified in the LCD contrast ratio sense.

In other words, your statement about "HDR movies and tv shows will look much more poppy and impressive than they ever would on an OLED" isn't just false, it's impossible. This screen doesn't even qualify for the high contrast spec for HDR, it just happens to be the best of the high nit spec.

It is absolutely better in an iPad than an OLED would be, but for image retention reasons. You can get in excess of 1000 nits peak brightness in an OLED, today - iPhone 12 happens to be one of those peaking at 1200. That isn't the challenge. If not image retention, then there must be too much waste on a single sheet of glass when cut down to however many 13" screens they'd need.

That’s not what anandtech found:


“The new iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro have on paper almost the same display characteristics, both being 6.06” OLED panels with 2532 x 1170 resolution, however they differ in their characteristics when looking at the peak maximum brightness achieved, with the regular iPhone 12 model peaking at 625 nits and the 12 Pro peaking at 800 nits.”
 
Wrong. The OLED premium UHD spec minimums are 20x more dynamic than the LCD spec. Meaning there's a minimum of 20x more detail and range in an image.
It’s not about contrast ratio (what you refer to is contrast ratio, the difference or refinement of gradient from black to white). It’s about what you can see. Out eyes needs light to see. It’s useless to have so much more information but not enough brightness.
 
It’s not about contrast ratio (what you refer to is contrast ratio, the difference or refinement of gradient from black to white). It’s about what you can see. Out eyes needs light to see. It’s useless to have so much more information but not enough brightness.

My god... it's absolutely about the contrast. The Dynamic Range. It's even in the name.


Minimum brightness and contrast ratios: This is probably the most interesting one, as it's great for consumers and shows the different players here at work. There are two possible minimum specs. A minimum brightness of 1,000 nits, along with a black level of a maximum of 0.05 nits (20,000:1 contrast ratio), or a minimum brightness of 540 nits, along with a black level of a maximum of 0.0005 (1,080,000:1).

When there's more contrast, there's more possible levels of lighting any particular scene. When you're working from absolute darkness, the brightness needs not go as high to achieve the same effect. And in fact, at only 540 nits it provides an actual 20x more range than 1000 nits and brighter black.
 
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Days ahead of their expected launch and seemingly before official review embargoes lift, one lucky customer has already gotten their hands on the brand new 12.9-inch M1 iPad Pro.

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Reddit User PeterDragon50

Posted on Reddit, u/PeterDragon50 has already received their 12.9-inch iPad Pro through retailer Nebraska Furniture Mart. The Reddit user says they placed their order when pre-orders initially went live and that the retail chain informed them that their iPad was ready for pick-up, despite not yet having been officially launched from Apple. Apple says the new iPad Pro and M1 iMac will be available starting in the second half of May, most likely May 21.

Official reviews of the M1-powered iPad Pro have yet to be published, leaving many to ask the customer for first impressions and thoughts. The customer says that the new mini-LED, Liquid Retina XDR display is impressive with deep blacks and colors that are "definitely up to Apple quality." Two videos (second one) were shared showing the 12.9-inch iPad Pro playing back HDR content.

Alongside images and videos of the new iPad Pro, Antutu benchmarking scores were also posted, showing that the new iPad Pro performs significantly faster than last year's model. Geekbench scores posted earlier this week also found the new iPad is 50% faster than the previous-generation.

Some customers who placed their pre-orders for the new iPad Pro on April 30 are beginning to notice their order status switch to "Shipping" rather than "Preparing to Ship." The new iPad Pro has proven to be an early success, with estimated shipping dates already slipping into mid-July. You can learn more about about the new iPad Pro using our guide.

Article Link: M1 iPad Pro Arrives Early for Lucky Customer
 


Days ahead of their expected launch and seemingly before official review embargoes lift, one lucky customer has already gotten their hands on the brand new 12.9-inch M1 iPad Pro.

m1-ipad-pro-early-customer.jpg

Reddit User PeterDragon50

Posted on Reddit, u/PeterDragon50 has already received their 12.9-inch iPad Pro through retailer Nebraska Furniture Mart. The Reddit user says they placed their order when pre-orders initially went live and that the retail chain informed them that their iPad was ready for pick-up, despite not yet having been officially launched from Apple. Apple says the new iPad Pro and M1 iMac will be available starting in the second half of May, most likely May 21.

Official reviews of the M1-powered iPad Pro have yet to be published, leaving many to ask the customer for first impressions and thoughts. The customer says that the new mini-LED, Liquid Retina XDR display is impressive with deep blacks and colors that are "definitely up to Apple quality." Two videos (second one) were shared showing the 12.9-inch iPad Pro playing back HDR content.

Alongside images and videos of the new iPad Pro, Antutu benchmarking scores were also posted, showing that the new iPad Pro performs significantly faster than last year's model. Geekbench scores posted earlier this week also found the new iPad is 50% faster than the previous-generation.

Some customers who placed their pre-orders for the new iPad Pro on April 30 are beginning to notice their order status switch to "Shipping" rather than "Preparing to Ship." The new iPad Pro has proven to be an early success, with estimated shipping dates already slipping into mid-July. You can learn more about about the new iPad Pro using our guide.

Article Link: M1 iPad Pro Arrives Early for Lucky Customer
Well so much for wasting my time trying to pre-order the thing when somebody could just get it from a reseller. Apple's policies really suck.
 
That’s not what anandtech found:


“The new iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro have on paper almost the same display characteristics, both being 6.06” OLED panels with 2532 x 1170 resolution, however they differ in their characteristics when looking at the peak maximum brightness achieved, with the regular iPhone 12 model peaking at 625 nits and the 12 Pro peaking at 800 nits.”

2 problems. First, don't read anandtech, that's like trusting Breitbart for news. They've been on the take for over a decade now.

Secondly, when "peak brightness" is discussed, it refers to 10% windows, which on the iPhone 12 hits 1200 nits. It's right in Apple's own specs -- along with the 800 nits full screen (aka typical brightness) number.

 
My god... it's absolutely about the contrast. The Dynamic Range. It's even in the name.


Minimum brightness and contrast ratios: This is probably the most interesting one, as it's great for consumers and shows the different players here at work. There are two possible minimum specs. A minimum brightness of 1,000 nits, along with a black level of a maximum of 0.05 nits (20,000:1 contrast ratio), or a minimum brightness of 540 nits, along with a black level of a maximum of 0.0005 (1,080,000:1).

When there's more contrast, there's more possible levels of lighting any particular scene. When you're working from absolutely darkness, the brightness needs not go as high to achieve the same effect. And in fact, at only 540 nits it provides an actual 20x more range than 1000 nits and brighter black.
It’s great that you quoted CNET 🤣

Let just use another example (and if you don’t understand it I don’t think you will understand OLED vs microLED until you see the actual one) if you have OLED screen the size of the wall and stand less than 2 meters from it then you wouldn’t need microLED but we’re talking about a 13” screen that you look from at least a foot from it. This is why brightness is more important for HDR contents.
 
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2 problems. First, don't read anandtech, that's like trusting Breitbart for news. They've been on the take for over a decade now.

Secondly, when "peak brightness" is discussed, it refers to 10% windows, which on the iPhone 12 hits 1200 nits. It's right in Apple's own specs -- along with the 800 nits full screen (aka typical brightness) number.

Do you even realize you're making yourself look dumb right?
 
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The videos posted look gorgeous when watched on an OLED that’s calibrated. Also great black levels, seems to rival the best LEDs with single backlight easily. It looks like Apple really got a winner here.

If you take into account the power of the M1, this will easily be the best iPad since it’s original release. It’s a shame that Apple does not have enough volume for the smaller ones, though.

Will be interesting, if Vincent Teoh (HDTVtest) is going to get his hands on one and review it.

IMHO the iPad’s main issue now is the OS itself, which is to limited for this wonderful piece of hardware.
 
It’s great that you quoted CNET 🤣

Let just use another example (and if you don’t understand it I don’t think you will understand OLED vs microLED until you see the actual one) if you have OLED screen the size of the wall and stand less than 2 meters from it then you wouldn’t need microLED but we’re talking about a 13” screen that you look from at least a foot from it. This is why brightness is more important for HDR contents.

To correct you, once more... It's great that I quoted the UHD Alliance, who happened to have been quoted into a CNET article on the very date they announced the specifications.

And the 13" MiniLED screen has blooming, as anyone with vision can see.
 
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When you're in daylight the brighter a screen can get the better. So I'm glad they put in a Micro LED in there. OLED can't compete with LCD brightness at all.
 
The videos posted look gorgeous when watched on an OLED that’s calibrated. Also great black levels, seems to rival the best LEDs with single backlight easily. It looks like Apple really got a winner here.

If you take into account the power of the M1, this will easily be the best iPad since it’s original release. It’s a shame that Apple does not have enough volume for the smaller ones, though.

Will be interesting, if Vincent Teoh (HDTVtest) is going to get his hands on one and review it.

IMHO the iPad’s main issue now is the OS itself, which is to limited for this wonderful piece of hardware.

I wonder what double entendre he will grace us with. :)
 
I feel bad for the retailer, hopefully apple doesn't exclude them from future releases.
Why name the retailer? Apple don't mess around with this kind of thing...
There are contracts around street dates and what happens if you break them. They may be excluded from future releases or they may have to pay for breaking the date (when they could have paid for orange/black stickers to put on the boxes so employees don’t check them in early :)

And, I’m assuming they named the retailer because WITHOUT doing so, there’s the specter of, “So… ahhhh how’d you get it?”
 
They could have avoided this awkwardness of people having to decide on a purchase of the new iPad Pros with no idea of whether it will actually gain capabilities in iPadOS or not, by announcing them at WWDC, at the same they announced the capabilities (or lack thereof).
you could/can NOT buy the ipad pro until WWDC....you can buy this new ipad pro even after WWDC...woooow, and decide for yourself if it will actually gain capabilities in ipadOS or not...jesus
There is no awkwardness for people, YOU dont have to decide until WWDC...Apple isnt force you to do anything
 
To correct you, once more... It's great that I quoted the UHD Alliance, who happened to have been quoted into a CNET article on the very date they announced the specifications.

And the 13" MiniLED screen has blooming, as anyone with vision can see.
I didn’t talk about blooming. I’m talking about miniLED with this brightness that new IPP has will give you more informations in HDR contents than OLED at half a brightness but you believe what you like to believe. It doesn’t concern me.
 
I didn’t talk about blooming. I’m talking about miniLED with this brightness that new IPP has will give you more informations in HDR contents than OLED at half a brightness but you believe what you like to believe. It doesn’t concern me.

Ok -- but it doesn't. It doesn't even provide more visual information than the minimum HDR spec an OLED had to follow in 2016, which current OLEDs far exceed. I don't know what's confusing about that.
 
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When you're in daylight the brighter a screen can get the better. So I'm glad they put in a Micro LED in there. OLED can't compete with LCD brightness at all.
you clearly dont know the difference between micro LED and mini LED..in the ipads is mini Led tech
 
Ok -- but it doesn't. It doesn't even provide more visual information than the minimum HDR spec an OLED had to follow in 2016, which current OLEDs far exceed. I don't know what's confusing about that.
Because you’re talking about informations OLED gives while I’m talking about what we can see. The two is different. Easy to experiment as well. Just turn down brightness on your OLED and you will see you see it’s detail less and less despite its being the same screen with same spec. Same principle.
 
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