He isn't wrong... just watch the videos. You can see light in the black around everything that's illuminated. That's blooming. It has a nice gradation down to the black, so it would certainly hold the title of best Mini LED implementation, but there is obvious blooming... and without a doubt, this is a portable multimedia monster - taking the crown from its brethren without any fight. But OLED it is not.
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He isn't wrong... just watch the videos. You can see light in the black around everything that's illuminated. That's blooming. It has a nice gradation down to the black, so it would certainly hold the title of best Mini LED implementation, but there is obvious blooming... and without a doubt, this is a portable multimedia monster - taking the crown from its brethren without any fight. But OLED it is not.
I ordered an 11 inch and could not agree with you more.
The reason why I am really counting on this upgrade is the iPad OS in June. if it does not do what I need.. maybe Ill flip it.
All content under all conditions will look better. Not sure why you think only HDR would see benefits to miniLED?
The interesting aspect of IPP screen is it’s brightness. Without it it can‘t achieve true HDR. I’m dying to see it.
I seriously wouldn’t get your hopes up for any significant changes to iPadOS. They would need to create a whole new OS.
Uh oh, you all put Nebraska Furniture Mart on blast! Apple will now make sure they don't have an opportunity in the future to provide products before the official release date.
My friend just sold her art for $3,000 using IPP and Pencil. Suck to be her not knowing she’s using a *gimp* OS. 🤣
It's not a no brainer upgrade at all for anyone with a 2018 or 2020 iPad Pro. We get the same form factor, FaceID system, Magic Keyboard, Apple Pencil 2, ProMotion display, quad speakers, and blitzing speed already. We miss out only on miniLED as far as I'm concerned and that's not enough to upgrade for my use. The M1 iPad Pro will open apps ever so slightly faster than a 2018/2020 and will run certain professional apps better no doubt, but unless you use those professional apps, quite frankly, the 2018 and 2020 are still overpowered devices for the limitations of iPadOS. The M1 and RAM on the 2021 iPad Pro feel like near comical overkill for the software and I just can't see iPadOS getting so radically redone at WWDC that it won't work great on even the 2019 iPad Air with just 3GB of RAM. I think there will be a lot of disappointment after WWDC when iPadOS is virtually another minor reboot. It's the app developers that may come through with some exciting launches to take advantage of the new power of the iPad Pro, but again, the power has been there for years already. A12X was beating out 2018 15" MacBook Pros, remember?Yep these new iPads Pros are a no-brainer upgrade for pretty much everyone. Even if you bought the 2020 version, you're going to want in on these new models.
Two month lead times on new orders now. Not bad for a product I was recently told on here wouldn't be in high demand, and there would be plenty of stock to go around.
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1) You watch movie credits?
2) That’s your worst criticism? That you could find one situation where it might bloom a tiny bit? When in many situations it will be superior to OLED? Like the fact it’s brighter, has better color reproduction, is more durable physically, and has no image burn in issues?
People are waiting for their IPP orders while I am waiting for WWDC announcement
The fact OLED has been out for years and this is one of the first miniLED displays most people have seen, and it was chosen over OLED, may mean OLED’s death is coming sooner than you think. Especially when it’s obvious that miniLED leads directly to microLED.
They could have avoided this awkwardness of people having to decide on a purchase of the new iPad Pros with no idea of whether it will actually gain capabilities in iPadOS or not, by announcing them at WWDC, at the same they announced the capabilities (or lack thereof).
I also am in the camp of waiting for the MacBook Pro (it will be my 4th one). I don't know that it is correct to say macOS is more useful than iPadOS. I have both, and they are designed for different uses. I do a lot of *work* on my MacBook Pro. It would be very tedious to attempt it on an iPad. But if I just want to *consume* the internet, the iPad is more natural.
Either way, that screen, stretched to 16", and an M2 in a laptop will absolutely rock.
HDR isn't about brightness.
HDR is about the combined effect of brightness PLUS darkness (creating contrast) -- or, the difference between the minimum brightness and the maximum darkness. I mean, it's even described in the name... high DYNAMIC RANGE.
OLEDs brightness on black is 0 - nil - making the contrast infinite. For comparisons sake, they often attribute the B specs maximum value of 0.0005 nits of black to it. With a minimum of 540 nits on the brightest end, you end up with contrast that's 20x higher than the best LCD displays at 1,080,000:1... and OLEDs are much brighter than 540 now... and again to reiterate, the brightness of black on an OLED being literally 0 makes the contrast infinite, it can't be quantified in the LCD contrast ratio sense.
In other words, your statement about "HDR movies and tv shows will look much more poppy and impressive than they ever would on an OLED" isn't just false, it's impossible. This screen doesn't even qualify for the high contrast spec for HDR, it just happens to be the best of the high nit spec.
It is absolutely better in an iPad than an OLED would be, but for image retention reasons. You can get in excess of 1000 nits peak brightness in an OLED, today - iPhone 12 happens to be one of those peaking at 1200. That isn't the challenge. If not image retention, then there must be too much waste on a single sheet of glass when cut down to however many 13" screens they'd need.
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
well, now that this beast will be in the hands of developers soon, let’s see what they can do with it.
Absolutely the future of mobile computing. The hardware is far more robust that a Macbook. Let’s see where developers take this.
Even to the millions of people that don’t own an Apple Watch 6 or 11" iPad Pro 2021 models)? Because, I’m still of the mindset that there are MORE people that don’t own both of those in the world, than DO own those.
It needs to run macOS at this point. Just give me the option.
the 1TB model with 16GB of RAM costs $1800. $100 less than the 13” MacBook Pro with the same specs.
If I’m in the Apple ecosystem why am I buying a laptop and a tablet that have the exact same things inside them but can’t do the same things.
As the desktop ARM platform matures and you basically start running the same applications on the iPad and Mac this won’t be much of an issue but to get me to bite right now it needs to run macOS. Even if they required the Smart Keyboard to be attached in order to do it.
Without brightness how can you view those gradients? Even though OLED has so much more contrast ratio but you will still see more detail with microLED because of brighter screen.
If you can’t comprehend it just thinking about seeing a more detailed photo in 2X darker room vs. a bit less detailed photo in 2X brighter room. You would see much more detail in a latter situation.
I don’t want to brag, but I have a 65” Vizio LCD TV, and it has 40 dimming zones.
I‘ll be the first to admit that it has challenges with some content.
Nice FUD. So, people who were already satisfied with the LCD on existing iPad Pros, will shun this better one? Permit me to doubt...
You can only go so dark and then its just pure black. But you need big amounts of brightness for HDR. It is actually about the high peaks. The high peaks are very difficult to produce.
That's my personal issue. Absent the mini LED part, if you even wanted a 12.9, you may get the same experience on a 2020 model (and even 2018) for hundreds of dollars less.
And how much better is mini-LED vs LED; NOT OLED as people are bickering about. This is how much better than what was already out is it (or not). Not what could have been. And what you do with it too and care about HDR and peak brightness, etc etc at all.
Absent the OS having some drastic changes that specifically takes advantage of the M1 and more RAM; and leaves older processors out somehow. Which is possible but rare (typically 1 or 2 features like on the iPhone based on new hardware)
It's mainly marketing speak and Apple saving money. It costs less to make more M1s (or other M series as time passes) than develop a separate processor for iPad; especially in the long term year after year.