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Safari will be snappier with M1 and 16GB RAM. For years has the Ipad been as powerful as a laptop/desktop. Typing this from my glorified browser iPad 12.9ā€ 2020. Will keep it for as long as it’s possible - until there are no more OS updates. Buying this fantastic screen at these galactic prices provided the most I do with it is browsing, emailing and reading sheet music makes no sense. Hopefully, a few years from now the iPad Air will be available in 12.9ā€/ 256GB. The pro is a dead end as far as I am concerned
 
I haven't been following iPadOS in a while but will this be able to play back ripped 4K HDR bluray files with the correct tone mapping?

Does anyone know if there is a player that can do this for iPadOS? Movist Pro for MacOS you can configure the tone mapping to BT 709.
 
Believe he’s telling you that OLED meeting the HDR spec and providing ā€œmore visual informationā€ (a somewhat artificially-boosted statement since it’s based on a purer black) is pointless when the end user needs actual light output, not just a differential between pure black and some weaker light output, to be able to see details.

.... it doesn't require additional light output. That's the whole point. TVs with poorer black levels require higher light output to achieve the same effect, but blooming means that detail is lost and colors get washed out.
 
does beg the question are you ready to make your other devices' displays look like crap by getting this? Notably, your Mac laptops?
I wouldn't be so sure, I've had plenty of high end AMOLED devices, including Samsungs Tab S7+ stuff and it hasn't ruined me on non-amoled panels at all... the minled tech is exciting and I'm happy Apple is moving to it, but trust me, it's not going to ruin your experience with other Apple LCD panels, outside of their early stuff it's all excellent.
 
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By your logic an OLED display that has a range from 0 nits to 100 nits peak would be better than a MiniLED that goes from 10 nits to 2000 nits peak. Because the contrast is calculated from the black leven; sure the OLED has infinite contrast and the MiniLED would not, so it sounds like it would be better. However, clearly in this extreme example a MiniLED would be the far superior and more impressive display.

No, because by definition 100 nits wouldn't be HDR on an OLED.
 
Why is it a no-brainer? Why would you upgrade from the 2020 edition? Yes, it has a better screen but at that price it better be. I have a 2017 iPad Pro and I see no compelling reason to upgrade. Mainly because the OS is lacking and there is no app I can’t run on my 2017 iPad. I love my iPad to consume content, but it’s a toy compared to my workhorse, the mac, so I rather invest in that area.

But I agree: this will probably sell because of the impressive hardware specs combined with the hope that iPadOS 15 will finally bring some pro features.
Not everybody has the same work needs as you. In my job, I can do everything I need to do on a machine with an iPad Air, this iPad pro would just be that much better because when I would need to run dual monitors on my work desktop I can just run split screen. The 10.5 air 3 is a little crunched, but the 12.9 would make things a lot easier.
 
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Am I the only one that doesn't want to pay for a fkn Lidar scanner and advanced camera? I feel like that adds at least $200 to the total cost and most people don't even care about having it.
I’d imagine some folks don’t want to pay for 4 speakers or mini-LED. Unfortunately, Apple doesn’t offer those options. You CAN get an iPad Air, though.
 
No, because by definition 100 nits wouldn't be HDR on an OLED.
Right. Alright let’s put it this way: I have a Samsung QLED and an OLED at home, both which meet the HDR specification.

The Samsung looks better during the day, because it has better typical and peak brightness. The black levels are optically not an issue during the day, in real life, because your eyes can’t tell the difference with high ambient light levels.

The OLED looks (much) better at night.

HDR content on the OLED during the day however looks dim and is unclear, especially compared to the QLED.

Basically, black levels aren’t the end-all-be-all and they’re not the most important factor in perceived image quality in all situations.
 
Cool. My TV has 33,177,600 dimming zones, though I believe only 24,883,200 can be active at a time.
This new iPad will still have noticeable blooming
in content like the videos above.
I am interested to see reviews of it with more real world content.

The worst case will be something like movie credits, where high contrast content is scrolling and you can see the text lighting up dimming zones as it passes.
One of the exact reasons why I prefer Plasma TV's and the only other option would be OLED. I have a Samsung 64" Plasma and Panasonic Plasma. I'm not sure the iPad Pro would be good with an OLED screen since people keep the screen on for longer periods of time but that's the benefit of Plasma and OLED that there is no blooming or having to worry about which product has more dimming zones than the other. But that's LCD technology for you.
 
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Some people aren’t into irrelevant topics such as art. Some people are scientists and require proper OS for some HARDCORE data analysis.
Getting paid $3000 for what you made with an iPad and pencil is hardly something to call ā€œirrelevantā€œ.

But, hey — it's OK if YOU can’t draw well enough for somebody to actually pay you that kind of money. Just keep on with your ā€œhard-coreā€ number crunching.

Haters gonna hate.
 
I sold my 2018 model in Jan (got $1K for it!), and bought this years at 8:01am.

This model is exactly what I hoped. The display, M1, 5G unlimited, will be perfect.

I paid $2K for this, and my wife is perfectly happy still with her iPad that was $229 on a sale. She uses that constantly for video and games, typically falling asleep after me. She hasn’t wanted an upgrade yet but plan on the Air models.

Each person is different, and I appreciate and can use all the extras that the Pro’s offer.
 
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I get Covid and all that. But it seems Apple’s latest updates have been a bit of a waste of money (Apple Watch 6, 11" iPad Pro 2021 models)
They missed me this year by not including the mini LED on the 11". That was the dealbreaker for upgrading from the 2018 iPad Pro, especially since they will likely add it to next year's model. I hate when they do that. They're both PRO devices.
 
The iPad is stunning but no way could I justify spending so much on a tablet without a full fledged desktop os.
 
Oh I do plenty of hardcore analysis on my iPad šŸ˜‰

- Can you run Command line tools on the iPad, NO!
- Can you do Machine-Learning using Rstudio or Matlab on the iPad, NO!
- Can you make extensive Python algorithms on the iPad, NO!
- Can you do basic statistic using SPSS or R on the iPad, NO!

I do not consider Excel as a good software for data analysis…
 
XDR for iPad Pro is as important upgrade as M1 for Mac. Mac can run heavy tasks/several tasks at once, so the more power the better.
XDR on the other hand changes how you view any content on screen, which is the single most important aspect of any tablet (those Nits will prove useful under direct sunlight). So yeah, same tablet but you could say that about M1 Mac too, which can run the same tasks it is suited for but faster. And we'll lose all the enthusiasm!
Yea the 2nd Gen pro added TrueTone, P3 wide color, and ProMotion (maybe other display enhancements) - but that generation radically changed my experience with the iPad over the original pro - this 5th gen is doing that all over again and will be a huge quality of life change.
 
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It seems that everyone who can’t justify purchasing the new iPad Pro is trying desperately to convince everyone else (and themselves) that it would be stupid for anyone to purchase it.

I don’t have an iPad, and since 12.9ā€ is essential for my use case, I sprung for it this year. Other people have been waiting for a few years to upgrade their older iPads. Some people (graphic and video artists) benefit enough from the new screen to upgrade from even a recent iPad. And some people can simply afford to treat themselves to this upgrade as a luxury. Please allow us to enjoy our purchases, and don’t take cheap shots at the new iPad just because you aren’t getting one.

As far as the screen goes, sure. It’s not as good as oled. But it’s still leaps and bounds better than Apple’s typical displays. It shares the same technology as the Pro XDR display, which received very positive reviews despite its high price.
 
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- Can you run Command line tools on the iPad, NO!
- Can you do Machine-Learning using Rstudio or Matlab on the iPad, NO!
- Can you make extensive Python algorithms on the iPad, NO!
- Can you do basic statistic using SPSS or R on the iPad, NO!

I do not consider Excel as a good software for data analysis…
I don’t think that was the sort of analysis they were talking about 🤣
 
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