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M1 Max Chip May Have More Raw GPU Performance Than a PlayStation 5
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I already have a high refresh rate Windows gaming laptop and an external monitor (165hz each) and while there are a few games that make me queasy, most don’t. Sometimes it takes a bit of trial and error to find optimal settings, and VR is totally out of the question, but I do okay.
It’s something about scrolling text, specifically, that does me in on certain screens. My first office job involved a good deal of scanning through microfiche and we’d all take turns riding the vomit comet. Even the folks who didn’t normally get carsick would end up nauseated. Scrolling text does the same to me, though it’s much more minor and using fast screens helps.
Like I said, if I could replace one or two pieces of software I’d quit the Mac entirely. But right now I just can’t.
There is an iOS port of one piece of software I require, but it’s a watered-down, pale imitation of the desktop package, as is so often the case.
Plus, I love my iPad for what it’s good at, but rapid fire multitasking to bring together and refer to a wide variety of source materials in multiple disparate formats and locations is not one of those things.
Lets say that RAM in the M1 cpu's does more than in other chips. But there is a limit to this truth.
While, for example, an 8Gb M1 might not slow down as fast as an 8Gb Intel based mac, it will still slow down if you open a ton of stuff.
On my previous work PC (a 16gb Macbook Pro 16'', so Intel based), I would stress out the RAM daily and the PC slowed down (multiple Xcode windows open + Docker + other things). Similar workload on my current M1 16Gb 13'' Pro does not do the same effect. But it does slow down a bit if I'm not careful and open a million things.
So, if I had 32Gb, I know that nothing I do on a daily basis would fill the RAM to a point it would affect performance. I would have no use for 64Gb tho, that's a waste.
I want more because, in the past, having more memory kept the performance of a computer CPU higher even as the computer got older. So it kept the computer performing at a higher level longer and that was extra time before I had to buy a new computer.
:Edit- I mostly use my computer for photo editing with some real light video editing thrown in.
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Apple can call all they want but game developers wont just suddenly abandon windows market and flock to Mac developing games that can only be enjoyed by a small group of elite.
Tell you what, even if the GPU performance is up by 10X, it would still only find its use in 3D modeling and other design related graphical intensive programs, not in games.
Tell you what, even if the GPU performance is up by 10X, it would still only find its use in 3D modeling and other design related graphical intensive programs, not in games.
I don’t see any decline. Blizzard was one of the first ones to offer native M1 support. Most of the new games I followed this year are committed to Mac support. Eve online just released a native client. BG3 is M1 native. Humankind has Mac support (they are still ironing things out though). Disco Elysium published native M1 version. Etc…
gaming on m1-macs will be limited to cloud gaming services like geforce now - with all their respective limitations but it be the one and only solution to how mac users will get to play games users are used to on x86-pcs or consoles manufacturers that port theirs to the pc platform. the sheer performance of the m1 stays unused then, though, no matter how fast they are or will be.
Right with that sort of mindset I’ll tell you that I’m so happy to place my order for a top spec M1 pro laptop just so I can also enjoy minesweeper.
That is a significant caveat. I’ll read up on that a bit more. Hopefully, support will be added by UE5 launch. Seems almost mandatory.
More TF than PS5, but not a single M1 native game (except iOS games)
Edit: World of Warcraft
Disco Elysium - The Final Cut (the version on the App Store) is a Native M1 game.
Hopefully more games will follow soon!
At this point in time even a weak sauce Nintendo switch will outperform the new laptops in terms of gaming performance.
obviously Nintendo is as stubborn as apple when it comes to gaming hardware. But we all know games matter more than hardware or why else would there be fifteen versions of Mario?
obviously Nintendo is as stubborn as apple when it comes to gaming hardware. But we all know games matter more than hardware or why else would there be fifteen versions of Mario?
Only if you're either a uni student or a basement dweller that can afford to camp out in front of retailers the night before to get one. Or a script kiddie that's good at writing bots to swipe the few ones that show up on line.
In my case the only real "need" is for loading large sample libraries. These typically load many GB of memory—at least in the current implementation of most libraries/instruments. You can tweak how much is loaded into RAM vs streamed, but I don't think that's always the case, and I don't think you can get that down low enough that you won't need a good chunk of RAM.
I'm neither of the above and got my PS5 at retail, back in December.
Yes, that's right, the M1 Pro MAX is so power efficient, it actually produces power instead of consuming it. With the Apple Thunderbolt to Edison dongle, you can plug in your blender, hair dryer, or charge your Tesla.
same here, even though i got mine just a few months ago but i'm kinda sick of backpacking my good ol 55'' tv and the ps5 -.- just playing !
hence it was nice to be able to bootcamp the older mbps, put a piece of headset on and play some decent games on a mbp wherever you are.
love kena and ratchet & clank, though !
My mom always jokes about never buying a larger purse, no matter how full hers gets, because no matter how big it is she’ll just fill it up.
The VAST majority of folks that have an M1 will never push even push THAT close to it’s potential. So, not pushing a Mac to it’s potential, starting this year, is describing 99.99% of the Mac laptop owning populace.
Apple will make more selling that piece of cloth anyway. Last thing they care about is games. Apple will be in cinema and all other CGI things. That’s their goal not ***** games.
Not even talking about abandoning Windows, no one is going to HIRE new developers just to develop for the tiny Mac market. Nearly all top tier games are essentially LDS, Lootbox Delivery Systems and the number of potential whales is too small to provide the dollars the publisher would want to make.