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Mac App Store Notes: Recognizing Previously-Installed Apps, Pricing Discounts
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My concern is the app store is showing the app is installed such as iLife but if I delete iLife from my Mac can I go to the app store and download it again at no charge? The installed apps are not showing up on the purchases so I'm not sure how this is going to work.
At this time only iLife and Aperture are showing as installed. None of my iWork or 3rd party apps are showing as installed. Once/if they do I wonder if I can delete the app and reinstall from the app store without having to worry about re-buying.
At this time only iLife and Aperture are showing as installed. None of my iWork or 3rd party apps are showing as installed. Once/if they do I wonder if I can delete the app and reinstall from the app store without having to worry about re-buying.
It really is disappointing. So people always have to consider where they buy their apps. If not in the App Store, then they won't profit from the convenience of the store. Apple should have made possible for developers to import their customer database one way or another.
I can't find the actual license terms - did you find a copy anywhere? It could very well be that the "personal use" applies to people downloading on two computers only. Download Aperture onto each of the ten Macs at your home and pay once, but pay twice times for your two Macs at work.
No, it does not seem to work that way. Only if you bought an app in the App Store, then you can re-download it again. Makes sense to some extent, as everyone just could download pirated software for free though the App Store.
Anyone know about licensing for MAS-only apps for organizations like schools? I work in a school district with maybe 1,000 computers, 4,000 students & staff. How will we get apps that are MAS-only?
The personal use clause is in the initial terms and conditions that are shown when you download your first app. As far as I could see it applies to all the apps in the MAS and I didn't notice anything about "multiple shared computers".
I can't get back to it right now, but if you look at what's actually there, it says that you may install the apps on any Macs you own for personal, non-commercial use, but then the next clause specifies that if you are a company, you may either purchase one copy for a single individual to use on multiple devices, or one copy per device if the device is going to be shared between multiple users. In other words, while it's a bit confusing wording, it seems rather obvious in the end that it's not saying the apps are for personal, non-commercial use, but that the provision to allow you to install that on all the Macs you own is only for personal use.
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You get them when you attempt to download your first app.
The link from inside the MAS currently takes you to the iOS App Store T&Cs.
Nope - It won't even show up in your list of "purchases", it shows only as installed if you browse the apps (probably just a reminder to the forgetful user). It won't add automatically the new rights management.
bought outside MAS: you can't redownload through MAS
bought within MAS: yes, you can download as often as you want (is tied to your appleID)
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No - the new license is only for application purchased through the MAS, not for applications purchased outside of the MAS
I bought an iLife '11 family pack, but haven't installed it on more than one machine since I really hate the new iPhoto. With App Store it is possible to install e.g. iMovie '11 only, which is a good app, so I guess it should be possible to install iMovie '11 on the machines where I have iLife '09? But I assume the only way to do this is to buy iMove '11 once more from App Store, there is no way to install it from my nearly unused family pack?
So you have the following choices:
1. Install on one computer, do whatever you want with it.
2. Install on any number of computers that are used by one single person.
3. Install on any number of computers that are controlled by one person but possibly used by others, for personal and noncommercial use.
It's pretty clear if you look in the purchased section of the store. You only see the apps purchased in-store, and these are the only ones you can re-download for free. Also, all the devs are saying that you can't transfer licenses from apps purchased out of the MAS into the MAS. Therefore it seems as though even if the MAS recognizes the apps as already installed, it doesn't transfer your licenses and give you the ability to download the apps for free.
There is a separate tab "Purchases" which shows you what you have bought and you can re download from there. Even if you go to the app itself and try to buy it again it will tell you it is already purchased and you can download for free (same as the AppStore in iTunes)
[of course this is only for Applications purchased in the MAS - it does not know about applications purchased somewhere else - big brother is still not here]
Hmmm, if I drag an App from the Application Folder stack on dock to the Trash, it wont delete...but if i go through finder and trash it from the actual folder it asks me for password to delete...
Bit unintuitive is it not?
Also, what if i downloaded a crap app and dont want it. After i've wrestled it off my mac, its forever listed in the Purchased tab....what if I no longer want to be associated with said crap app ?
Other than that...awesome Cant wait for it to be a bit more populated though. Cant actually find anything worthwhile. I hope this doesn't promote every small app from sticky notes to desktop wallpapers being sold at a price. Sometimes, apps should be free! I hate having to pay for something so simple. Offer a donation button on your site devs! You might make more money than selling a simple app for £4.99 that people might turned off from purchasing...
Dont take that the wrong way however, I'm all for people making money for what they make, but there is a limit to what should be chargeable. I've donated many a pound to worthy causes, but I can't imagine having to pay for Transmission, uTorrent, Spotify, VLC player, Skype, Plex etc etc
Also, does anyone feel that this could be the foundation for a brighter future in Lion? I mean regarding iTunes.
Apple could have easily jammed this into that bloatfest but they chose not too....why? Perhaps iTunes is getting re-written? Perhaps the iOS app store will eventually combine with the Mac App Store and iTunes will go back to being about music. Perhaps there will be a separate program for syncing iDevices ....like, oh I don't know...iSync??
Bit unintuitive is it not?
Also, what if i downloaded a crap app and dont want it. After i've wrestled it off my mac, its forever listed in the Purchased tab....what if I no longer want to be associated with said crap app ?
Other than that...awesome
Cant wait for it to be a bit more populated though. Cant actually find anything worthwhile. I hope this doesn't promote every small app from sticky notes to desktop wallpapers being sold at a price. Sometimes, apps should be free! I hate having to pay for something so simple. Offer a donation button on your site devs! You might make more money than selling a simple app for £4.99 that people might turned off from purchasing...Dont take that the wrong way however, I'm all for people making money for what they make, but there is a limit to what should be chargeable. I've donated many a pound to worthy causes, but I can't imagine having to pay for Transmission, uTorrent, Spotify, VLC player, Skype, Plex etc etc
Also, does anyone feel that this could be the foundation for a brighter future in Lion? I mean regarding iTunes.
Apple could have easily jammed this into that bloatfest but they chose not too....why? Perhaps iTunes is getting re-written? Perhaps the iOS app store will eventually combine with the Mac App Store and iTunes will go back to being about music. Perhaps there will be a separate program for syncing iDevices ....like, oh I don't know...iSync??
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Moving app outside the App folder
Bought a little app this morning from MAS, but would like to move it to the Utilities folder. (The Mac asks for my password when I attempted this). But I assume if did, MAS would fail to update it? Anyone know?---I like categories!
Bought a little app this morning from MAS, but would like to move it to the Utilities folder. (The Mac asks for my password when I attempted this). But I assume if did, MAS would fail to update it? Anyone know?---I like categories!
There's also an issue installing an application from the MAS if you have a previous (non-MAS) version of the app already installed. The application gets installed into a folder in /Applications instead of in the /Applications folder. The old app is never removed or overwritten.
Anyone downloading my app that had the previous version installed is seeing this issue. The installer is looking for a specific bundle ID, which my pre-MAS version didn't have. Not a huge issue but requires the user to manually remove the old version.
Anyone downloading my app that had the previous version installed is seeing this issue. The installer is looking for a specific bundle ID, which my pre-MAS version didn't have. Not a huge issue but requires the user to manually remove the old version.