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I still have a strong premonition that Apple will finally produce a mid tower for "the rest of us" at a decent price. Then, the price of the Mini should go down a bit. This should happen during the 3rd quarter of this year.
 
They'll probably wait for BD drives to drop substantially in price, though, and most likely they'll start with the Mac Pros. I agree that they won't be in the Mini's anytime soon.
It's really strange the Mac Pros don't already have BluRay drives as an option. It can't be so hard to write software necessary to view BluRay discs, either.
1. It's only nominally supported by Apple. Apple sees downloads as the wave of the future.
Actually, there's plenty of evidence against that:
  • Apple is reportedly in talk with Sony about BluRay drives.
  • At MacWorld 2008, Steve Jobs did acknowledge that some people want to buy movies.
  • iTunes copies on DVDs were introduced at the same iTunes Movie Rentals was introduced.
Supporting BluRay in the AppleTV would also make sense economically: If movie lovers buy the AppleTV to watch BluRay movies, they're also more likely to rent movies from iTunes. If they buy a BluRay player from another vendor, they'll probably not buy an AppleTV in addition.
2. The specs are still being thrashed out. Like I said, BD Live isn't even implemented yet despite having been part of the standard for months.
That's the good thing about a computer-based platform: you can have firmware/OS updates.
3. It's far from certain it'll displace DVD.
It won't. For content that is not available in HD, it does not make sense to switch to BluRay.
4. Implementing Blu-ray playback requires Java support. We already know how Apple feels about that.
Well, like this:
http://developer.apple.com/java/ said:
Mac OS X is the only major consumer operating system that comes complete with a fully configured and ready-to-use Java runtime and development environment.
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I still have a strong premonition that Apple will finally produce a mid tower for "the rest of us" at a decent price. Then, the price of the Mini should go down a bit. This should happen during the 3rd quarter of this year.
Apple already does make the iMac for the "rest of us".
 
Does the guy who started this thread work for AppleInsider? :D

Tough luck guys. The mini is here for a while longer! HA!

Viva La Mini!!!! :)
 
As well as the single CPU 4-core Mac Pro for folks who must have expandability and upgradeability, but who do not need eight cores.

If you don't mind all that power consumption and the very distracting loud noise made by the Mac Pro, not to mention the large footprint.
 
If you don't mind all that power consumption and the very distracting loud noise made by the Mac Pro, not to mention the large footprint.

Or that if your monitor breaks you have no computer, or if your computer breaks, you have to either throw out your monitor or pay to have an old computer repaired.
 
Or that if your monitor breaks you have no computer, or if your computer breaks, you have to either throw out your monitor or pay to have an old computer repaired.

That right there is why the iMac will never enter my house. I have a wonderful display on a KVM with a Mini, and a very power hungry graphics workstation.

When the new Mini comes out, the old Mini will either become a gift to somebody in the family or a teeny tiny web server.
 
If you get a warranty you don't have to worry about either one breaking. If it lasts 3 years it is certainly going to last for at least 5. I think by that point you are going to want a new computer and monitor and therefore it is perfect anyway. I've been using iMacs since they were first made. Bondi blue G3, Indigo G3, Intel Aluminum. Works out very well actually. It's not for everyone and requires you to get the most out of the computer you have. Seems more cost conscious than most approaches. (Doesn't hurt if you have a teacher in the family or are a student.)
 
If you get a warranty you don't have to worry about either one breaking.

Wrong. A warranty does not prevent me from losing all use of my computer if my monitor goes out. I still have to take BOTH monitor and computer in for service.

If it lasts 3 years it is certainly going to last for at least 5.
Wrong. If it lasts for 3 years it is certainly going to last for at least 3 years.

I think by that point you are going to want a new computer and monitor and therefore it is perfect anyway.
Wrong. If I buy a high quality 23" monitor I'm not going to want to upgrade it to get a faster computer. That's nonsense.

I've been using iMacs since they were first made. Bondi blue G3, Indigo G3, Intel Aluminum. Works out very well actually. It's not for everyone and requires you to get the most out of the computer you have. Seems more cost conscious than most approaches. (Doesn't hurt if you have a teacher in the family or are a student.)

Well said.
 
Please. Computers tend to last for a long time if they last a certain amount of time. They usually don't just randomly break down. The computers, after time, do tend to degrade a bit and finally die, but if they last 3 years they tend to be able to last for longer than that.

If you lose the use of your computer you are going to have a monitor there sitting on your desk anyway. How does that do you any good? You have good computers sitting in a closet somewhere that you could use? In most cases, people have another computer or laptop to use in cases that the main computer needs a repair.

Of course if you have a great monitor you should use it as possible as a part of the iMac. Honestly though the iMac monitors are not that great. The 24" is much better than the 20", but as I said the iMacs are not for everyone. It's a personal decision and depends how much you want to get back on your investment in a computer by keeping it longer.
 
Please. Computers tend to last for a long time if they last a certain amount of time. They usually don't just randomly break down. The computers, after time, do tend to degrade a bit and finally die, but if they last 3 years they tend to be able to last for longer than that.

If you lose the use of your computer you are going to have a monitor there sitting on your desk anyway. How does that do you any good? You have good computers sitting in a closet somewhere that you could use? In most cases, people have another computer or laptop to use in cases that the main computer needs a repair.

Of course if you have a great monitor you should use it as possible as a part of the iMac. Honestly though the iMac monitors are not that great. The 24" is much better than the 20", but as I said the iMacs are not for everyone. It's a personal decision and depends how much you want to get back on your investment in a computer by keeping it longer.
I will never buy an iMac because I cannot service it myself. When my optical drive dies, I install a new and better drive. When my hard drive dies, I install a much bigger one. When I need more memory, I buy it at the best price and install it myself. I keep all my personal and financial information on my computers, and I will not let anyone else muck around in them. Thus, an iMac will never be in my house. I have a lot of computers, both Mac and Windows, and I get a lot of years of service out of them by maintaining them myself.
 
I will never buy an iMac because I cannot service it myself. When my optical drive dies, I install a new and better drive. When my hard drive dies, I install a much bigger one. When I need more memory, I buy it at the best price and install it myself. I keep all my personal and financial information on my computers, and I will not let anyone else muck around in them. Thus, an iMac will never be in my house. I have a lot of computers, both Mac and Windows, and I get a lot of years of service out of them by maintaining them myself.

Ding ding ding. Exactly. I know we're a rare breed. But after I very quickly outgrew my G4 iMac, I resolved to nevver buy an AIO again. Through tricky user-performed upgrades (i.e., my technical wizardry), I've been able to keep this poor shlup of a computer working (decently) for 6 years but NEVER AGAIN! My next Mac will be a Mac Mini, where I can share a monitor with my home-built PC, can "easily" upgrade the RAM, HDD, and (someday) even the CPU. It won't do graphics well and I've accepted that. Unfortunately for Apple, that means I'm forced to keep a Windows box around at all times. They could have me 100% if they would finally release an xMac...

...But Steve hates people who actually know anything about computers, so it'll never happen.

-Clive
 
Don't really matter just upgraded my Mac Mini Intel Core Duo 2 to 4GB today. I used Kingston memory that was on sale at Fry's Electronics for $79.99. I followed everybody's online instruction and upgraded it. Yeah I brought a Putty knife (paint scraper).


My next computer is a Mac Pro that 8-core 4GHz can hold four 2TB HDD and have a Blu-Ray Drive! Yeah it's coming! This Mac Mini is going to the bedroom when I get the Mac Pro!
 
Tomorrow? :apple:

One can hope. I have $600 with Apple's name on it... not to mention $100 with Elgato's name on it, and $100 for Belkin's DVI KVM switch. I've been saving for a loooooong time, as my last Mac is an 800MHz G4 iMac. I am eager to blow my POS out of the water.

I love that iMac, I really do, it's just slow and I can't run Leopard "legally" - or well, for that matter.

-Clive
 
There's just strong interest in Mini and with Apple giving Mini near nothing the last time it was updated I cant blame people. Come on Jobs, update the thing!

As a current owner of one of the very first Mini's does anyone remember the date they were 1st released ?

I do.:p
 
(4/1/08)

Wow, I know this thread has been going a long time... but since System 6???!?!

Maybe it's time you listen to your adoring fans, Apple, and give them that MacMini they've been talking about since... 1990? Was system 6 really that recent? Damn I'm an old fart, and I'm only 24! What magic it was to upgrade to system 7 in all of it's 16 colors, or whatever it was.

-Clive
 
When I got my Mac Plus in 1988

It was already running 6.2 I think. The next computer I actually bought for myself was in 1997. It was a Power Computing PowerTower Pro running at 250MHz I think and it started with 7.6 installed but was shortly updated to 8 and then 8.6 and finally I think to 9.0. At that point, I managed to get my hands on an old computer that was being junked at work which was probably a beige G3. Actually, I think there was a modified Powermac 8600 in there somewhere. When I say modified, I mean it was an 8600 motherboard in a 7600 box. Then came the G3, and then my quicksilver 933MHz which came with 9.2 and also of course ran OS X, and finally my iMac which I got last August. And you thought you felt old...:D
 
I'm patiently waiting for the Mac mini updates. I need it for my new apartment's entertainment centre. There is still plenty of interest in the Mac mini and I really hope that Apple doesn't cut the line on it.
 
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