I hate it when people call Snow Leopard a service pack, because it isn't. It brings 64-bit support, GCD, and Open CL and more. For only $29.
Unfortunately there are a whole heap of people out there who expect a revolution that will totally change the way Mac looks. It has been covered a million times on this forum but there are people where who ignore it all in favour of whinging, whining, ranting and raving about things the know nothing about.
Precisely why I have never torrented a copy of OS X. The price (even the $129) is plenty reasonable in my mind, and I will gladly pay for such well made software.
When one also splits off the cost as a per week amount, its less than a cup of coffee and a slice from the local cafe.
Windows on the other hand... lets just say that I need to have it for school, and the price simply is not right

(and before we get into an argument over the right/wrong of torrenting, I will just say that I know that torrenting is wrong. but I don't care. there. done.)
The price of Windows has always been expensive and rather than reduce the price Microsoft did a half assed compromise by slicing up and offering multiple versions. Its like finding you've got a leak in your roof and the best solution provided is to move the furniture and put a bucket to catch the drip.
I suspect there's a lot of cross-over between those who have/will torrent it and those who will buy it. Some people can't resist having the newest thing first.
True, there are some of us who download it and later purchase it; hence the reason I've found the 'very wide brush' some apply liberally end users who download as rather annoying.
Bugs in a GM release of Mac OS X are not a very good heuristic of their readiness or I guess retail-ability. Apple has shipped major releases of Mac OS X with severe data loss bugs.
In 10.4, the text list feature in the Cocoa Text System was reported to cause all text below a list to vanish on save.
Apple's policy on initial releases of Mac OS X appears to be just to have a solid foundation for the system and the higher-level frameworks can be patched in the 2-3 releases following its availability. There is good reason why a lot of folks here have stated they wait until 10.x.3 till making the move.
Reminds me of Mac OS X 10.3.x which had a data corruption back relating to the Oxford firewire chipset found in external hard disk (and a few other devices).
I think Snow Leopard may be scrutinized on this level more than any other previous release simply because it delivers to the user what was promised, an upgrade to Leopard, so there aren't a lot of wow features for people to play with. The real stuff is the backend with GCD and the gradual move to implicit parallelism that it seems to be signaling. clang is looking good and might replace GCC as the default compiler for Mac OS X by 10.7.
It's going to be interesting going forward.
I have a feeling the big showy stuff will appear in 10.7.x where we'll see these new frameworks being taken off in deeper more meaningful ways; GPU assisted video and audio compression
All im saying is: Expect to see a new build.
Probably the last buildon friday infact.
I think the release is still september.
Thank god for that, a new build friday...that WILL be gold Master (RTM)
Ah, you do realise that it is already Golden Master - the only debate now is whether it is 10A432, 10A435 or some other build.
I mean there really ain't much they need to work on now and, to be honest, they can always patch any tiny bugs in the first week.....like they did with Leopard. then again Leopard was just out-n-out a piece of **** my my mind.
It is already GM. You can't GM something at the last minute - it takes 2 weeks MINIMUM to produce the boxed products and ship it to the distributors then to the retail stores - or are you one of those people who think that when you purchase software off the shelf it'll have the latest updates up to the last minute?
I still don't understand why Apple allow you to install Quciktime 7, even though, accoridng to Apple quicktime 10 has the same support and also, supports more codecs, such as xvid and wmv?
Bullcrap - no one has EVER said that. Stop repeating lies.
i'm able to run PPC only apps still, without rosetta being installed. Thats wrong surely to god.
therefore it's not Intel ONLY afterall BOOOO
Do you even know what rosetta actually is?
Please - stop posting until you've read a book; your posts are driving me to the point of suicide.
Lmao, this is not only the first OS X copy for Apple to actually ship ON its release date that they said it would be... but even BEFORE it. Haha. Cept it's buggy as f*ck.
Nice to see you're willing to lie and never ask for advice; but then again, me a liar on this forum is apparently 'cool' because of the relatively anonymity that the internet gives you.
GM Builds are not bug-free: they're still sorting out bugs in Leopard, a year after it went GM.
GM builds should be relatively stable and bug-free, feature complete and API complete, and are tested extensively.
Of course but we have people here who have a problem with a third party application and blame the operating system; they do an upgrade rather than a clean install and wonder why all hell breaks loose (personally Apple should force people to clean install EVERY TIME they install Mac OS X).
They don't just compile a copy and slap a GM sticker on it - they work very hard to get a GM candidate build, then test that one build 24hrs for a few days, running scripts and simulating user behaviour to test its stability. It's also used by real people, who give feedback on whether or not it is acceptable. GM builds are compiled long before they are so declared. They won't make 'the last build on Friday' the GM.
This is what bugfix 10.0.X updates are for. 10.6.1 will probably be released in 4-6 weeks, after general availability, after Apple has received feedback and fixed bugs they couldn't fix in time for the GM. The GM build often has several known issues they couldn't fix in time.
I agree - I'd probably say that they're working on iTunes for the up coming devices and then spend time tying up loose ends with Mac OS X 10.6 with the release of the first update. 10.5.0 was never as disastrous as some people claim, and compared to 10.4 and 10.3 when it was released, it was a heck of alot more stable - thats for sure. I remember back when I got my eMac which came with 10.2.4 - that was no walk in the park either.
Software is a cycle of natural progression; it annoys me that firstly we have people nominating themselves as experts in software development, when they experience a single problem it is apparently the problem of the operating system whilst ignoring the fact that it is the third party who is responsible for providing updates to customers and support the latest operating system.
Wow, I potentially lose CS3, Vuze, Max, Cyberduck with 10.6.
Instead of complaining to this forum or Apple - put some pressure on those vendors to provide free updates.
I might keep my iMac on 10.5 for a while while I play with SL on my new MBP...
You might as well go for the family pack considering its only $20 more and you 5 licences.
It has been mentioned several times on this thread that 10.6 is being "rushed" and that that current build is "buggy" and so on. Why oh why would Apple need to rush this product to market?
Why don't you learn the definition of Golden Master - Golden Master does NOT mean 'absolutely perfect and without fault'.
It can't be a race against Microsoft, since fully functional, useable Windows 7 has been available for some time now. What other than an internal schedule can be prompting a rush then?
None of us know what the schedule is, and all the whining are from people with issues relating to third parties - in other words, nothing to do with Snow Leopard.
Considering that reputation is at stake, Snow Leopard cannot be a rushed release - it may be coming out this month, the next, who knows? We don't know what build number will be released either and one would have thought that any developers with access to the release candidate or golden master versions would be under a non-disclosure agreement and not be telling anyone anything anyway: the currently available "buggy" versions are not necessarily what ends up on the install DVD.
We'll find out in a week, or a month. Until then, we wait and see.
Again, 'buggy', buggy by what definition? you keep throwing it around with no qualifiers to back it up!