Mac Mini Refresh, New Low-Cost Notebook, Apple Watches With Larger Displays and More Coming This Fall

[Junior117]

LOL!

It will never be good until Apple makes basically PC with a 1080ti for $399, and even then, people will find a reason to complain (sponsored by iFixit, bought to you by OnePlus, etc.)

This made me laugh a lot more than I should have.

Are you sure it isn't Safari? I'm able to use Opera and get 4k on the Mac to youtube just fine.

You can put the blame on both sides: you can either blame Apple for refusing to adopt V8 rendering, or you can blame Google for refusing to adopt H.264/H.265. Either way, both are being stubborn and I don't think one company is being more stubborn than the other.

 

[TimmeyCook]

Are you sure it isn't Safari? I'm able to use Opera and get 4k on the Mac to youtube just fine.

Opera is just Chrome with a skin.

No, it's not Safari.

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

The new CPUs are such a massive step up over previous and next year it will be mind boggling still.

 

[Feenician]

Are you sure it isn't Safari? I'm able to use Opera and get 4k on the Mac to youtube just fine.

A bit of both. YouTube use the Vp9 codec on their 4K+ videos. Safari directly uses the QuickTime framework which only supports H.26x formats. Other browsers ship their own media components and codecs for other formats.

 

[jwdsail]

People in this forum that complained Apple didn't update the Mac Mini are ALL going to buy it!

100% sure, you can bet on it.

...


It will never be good until Apple makes basically PC with a 1080ti for $399, and even then, people will find a reason to complain (sponsored by iFixit, bought to you by OnePlus, etc.)



The outcry will continue because someone thinks they can configure computers better than Apple.

...

I probably have a better idea of what I actually need than someone who's never met me, or worked at my business, or lived in my home? Just a thought?

I have two Mac minis, love them, but they're getting long in the tooth, and I'm ready to give Apple some cash.

Unfortunately, Apple took what was at one point a really nice flexible/customizable (via BTO options) and upgradeable/serviceable Mac, and ruined it, then neglected it.

But, it doesn't have to stay that way, right? That's why I'm excited that they may update it, and hopefully fix it.

I'll order two Mac Minis on the first day if:

i7 (Quad core, or even i9) w/ discrete graphics and 32GB ram are available as a BTO options, along w/ TB3.

Hell, I'll even settle for the above w/ integrated graphics, if eGPU support improves, especially in BootCamp.

I don't need it to be $399. I need it to have BTO options that makes it worth buying for how I want to use it, and how long I want to use it. Give me an option to max it out well beyond my current needs to include some future-proofing. $1999? The base model can still be i3/i5, limited ram and storage and affordable, $399, just offer *options*.

That really isn't asking that much, is it?

 

[TimmeyCook]

You can put the blame on both sides: you can either blame Apple for refusing to adopt V8 rendering, or you can blame Google for refusing to adopt H.264/H.265. Either way, both are being stubborn and I don't think one company is being more stubborn than the other.

You don't need h.265 for 4K video, h.264 does it and google already encodes all their videos in h.264.

Also, until very recently there was NO hardware decoding of VP8/VP9 in Apple or Android devices.

 

[Junior117]

You don't need h.265 for 4K video, h.264 does it and google already encodes all their videos in h.264.

Also, until very recently there was NO hardware decoding of VP8/VP9 in Apple or Android devices.

I knew I was wrong about something but I couldn't figure it out. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Zdigital2015]

My predictions based on this dude's predictions, based on rumor, innuendo and a quick game of darts at the bar after work.

1. iPhone - At this point, any random Grandmother you meet on the street could make this prediction. NEXT!

2. iPad Pro - A faster iPad Pro with features copied from the ground breaking iPhone X. Again, Grandma, albeit, hipper and more worldly, NOT living in a retirement village. NEXT!

3. Mac mini was in the center of the dart board and he got lucky, period! My prediction, dual-core 7th Gen CPUs (i5-7267U, i5-7287U and i7-7567U), maybe 8th Gen CPUs, but I wouldn't count on it. 8GB base, 16GB and 32GB available (soldered). Same HDD, Fusion and Flash Storage options as before. Same port selection, but two Thunderbolt 3 ports instead of Thunderbolt 2. Supports one 5K display or two 4K displays, no HDMI, but you do get to keep the SDXC slot. Same case, but Space Grey (Tim Cook then makes more money on the Keyboard, TrackPad and Mouse). Starts at $599 for 8GB/500GB HDD, so $799 for anything usable, $999 (i5-7287U/16GB/256GB Flash).

4. MacBook Pro - 8th Gen 4-core 28w U-series and 6-core 45w H-Series upgrades, no other changes, not even GPU as AMD does not have anything significant ready to go for Q4 2018. Small price reduction of $200 to entice those who have not bitten yet. TouchBar all the way around. $1599 (8GB/256GB), $1799 (8GB/512GB), $2199 (16GB/256GB) $2599 (16GB/512GB).

5. MacBook - 13" model with who knows what CPU at this point. Replaces 12" MacBook, 13.3" MacBook Air and 13.3" non-TouchBar MacBook Pro. Two configurations, at $999 (8/128GB) and $1299 (8/256GB), 1440x900 Retina Display, longer battery life, one Thunderbolt 3 port and the damn audio jack is still on the right side.

6. New Low-Priced Notebook - See above...otherwise known as Fantasy Land. Apple is not going to go down to $799, no way, no how.

7. iMac - 8th Gen 6-core CPUs, maybe an 8-core BTO option (Core i9-9900K). HDR10/DolbyVision/HLG display. No other changes, no price changes. iMac Pro drops 8-core, gains 22-core and gets new HDR10/DolbyVision/HLG display. May gain support for 8K displays with additon of Titan Ridge TB3 controller, but earlier iMac Pro won't, riot ensues. No price changes.

8. Apple Watch Series 4 - DUH!!!

9. Two minute sizzle reel of the 2019 Mac Pro, with incomplete glimpses of the exterior and random motherboard shots which will linger a second too long on the PCIe slots (ooh, exotic locales), the GPU (explore the galaxy) and the RAM slots (so many, forbidden to all but the chosen). Pricing will not be mentioned as they want to keep this a family show.

 

[JesperA]

Tim runs Apple. No one will be equal to him within Apple. They also won't split off any of their products into their own company. That would be useless.

Weird comment, first two sentences is based on current structure, why you think that is an argument i have no idea. Third sentence; won't and should are two different things. Last sentence, no, that would not be useless, the current state of the Mac and current apparent low focus on the Mac is what is useless. Improving the Mac, how can you consider that a useless thing?

Very weird comment indeed.....

 

[Zdigital2015]

The new CPUs are such a massive step up over previous and next year it will be mind boggling still.

Say, "Thank you, AMD!"

 

[scoobs69]

Gimme an 8700k Mac Mini with 64GB Ram and dual user upgradable NVMe slots.

 

[jwdsail]

Always gonna find that negativity here.

With the way Intel chips are going lately, it'll be awful to miss out on that 4% power boost.

It's like people forget how it used to be, when your computer was already vastly obsolete the day after you bought it.

I know someone who's still mad he got a IIVX a month before the Centris 650 I got came out.

 

[now i see it]

It's extremely unlikely the next Mac mini will debut before the next MacPro. I'd say it's not gunna happen.

 

[navaira]

New Low-Priced Notebook - See above...otherwise known as Fantasy Land. Apple is not going to go down to $799, no way, no how.

Can't see that happening either. $999 to keep it below a thousand. UKP 1399, €1599.

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

Gimme an 8700k Mac Mini with 64GB Ram and dual user upgradable NVMe slots.

My gaming PC has a 8700K overclocked with 4000MHZ RAM

I don't think Apple will ever offer the standard SSD slots again. Whatever format they use (Mac Pro etc) they must offer capacity upgrades on a regular basis at a competitive price.

 

[fairuz]

You can put the blame on both sides: you can either blame Apple for refusing to adopt V8 rendering, or you can blame Google for refusing to adopt H.264/H.265. Either way, both are being stubborn and I don't think one company is being more stubborn than the other.

Since H.264 is much more a standard than VP8, I'd definitely say Google is the one being more stubborn. But VP8 is also the royalty-free one, so they're being stubborn for a cause.

 

[lunarworks]

I know someone who's still mad he got a IIVX a month before the Centris 650 I got came out.

I remember seeing Painter on the IIvx and being blown away at the time.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Can you imagine if the MacMini came with a top that is capable of charging your iphone and Watch...?

HERETIC!!! YOU SPEAK BLASPHEMY IN THE FACE OF AN IMMINENT PRODUCT LAUNCH DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A SUPERIOR PRODUCT EXPERIENCE WHILE PROVIDING MUCH NEEDED MONEY TO FILL APPLE'S DEPLETED COFFERS! HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST SOMETHING FOR FREE WHEN YOU SHOULD CLEARLY PAY FOR SUCH INNOVATION. A LID THAT IS MORE THAN A SIMPLE LID? YOUR TREACHERY MUST BE DEALT WITH HARSHLY AND WITHOUT DELAY!!!


/s
[doublepost=1531342616][/doublepost]

I'd be shocked if they substantially update the Mac mini. Not only has it been lagging for years, the last updates were awful by taking away quad-core options and the ability to update RAM. I'd love to see a 6-8 core CPU and user upgradable memory/drives come back, but just don't see that happening.

I would love to know what happened to the engineer or product manager who was able to sneak the Core i7-3615QM and the Core i7-3720QM into the Late 2012 Mac minis...I bet he is manning a radar station in Minot, North Dakota right now. Or Gnome, Alaska.

We thank you for your courage, brave engineer and/or product manager, wherever you may be buried/sentenced/marooned!!!

 

[swingerofbirch]

Do you think they could really just do processor upgrades to the MB and MBP? Would they announce new products that then go straight into the existing extended keyboard repair program? It's already bizarre enough that they're still selling products that are part of an extended repair program.

 

[zombierunner]

Will the new cheaper notebook compete with ipad pros?

 

[827538]

I’m sure that your processor knowledge is better than mine, but I agree!

This doesn’t seem to make sense - unless Apple has got its hands on the next gen of the fanless Y (that’s right, isn’t it?) intel processors.

If the new 13 inch laptop isn’t going to be called a MBA, I suspect that we’ll see this as the sole MB model with the current (very expensive for what they are) MacBooks retired, for now.

Presumably the 13 inch MB is going to have enough room for the trackpad of the MB 13 too.

IMHO, this makes the MB trackpad feel previous generation, which is why I think we’ll see the 12 inch models retired for now... to come blazing back as revised ARM models in 2020.

Yes their fanless chips are the Y-series.

What's wrong with the trackpad on the MacBook? I think it's great. I do not see them retiring the 12" MacBook. Personally if they were doing a redesign they could just shrink the bezels like a Dell XPS and that would probably accommodate a 13" display without really changing the size of the laptop. There is a fair amount of bezel on my 12" MacBook.

Honestly just give the MacBook a second Type-C connector on the other side, smaller bezels and DCI-P3 colour gamut + upgraded silicon and it would be the ultimate MacBook for me. I'm always impressed by how capable this little machine is - this is coming from someone with a delidded, liquid cooled 6700k + GTX 1080.

When I upgrade my MacBook I'll definitely go with the 16GB of RAM, I really do notice it at times. The CPU is fantastic though.

 

[aliensporebomb]

Opera is just Chrome with a skin.

No, it's not Safari.

No I know Opera isn't Safari. It's certainly a Google/Apple pissing match. Hopefully something will get resolved eventually, maybe by a plug-in but I have 3 other browsers I can use if I need to.

 

[827538]

Google removed 1440p option for Mac users.

Google is crap, what you expect?

Ah OK, I didn't know that. Any reason why other than 'google is evil' which it definitely is.
[doublepost=1531343021][/doublepost]

The MacBook Air shouldn't be killed off - give it the screen upgrade it should have received a couple of years ago, along with the normal processor bump, and it is a fine computer at a premium price.

I just don't see the point of it between the MacBook and MacBook Pro now. Give the MacBook a price cut and it's perfect. Personally I think Apple needs to streamline its' lineups.

 

[aliensporebomb]

Have you thought that Apple may have leaked some info due to the very long thread in this forum regarding them being way overdue for updates? Things may still be in production that aren't quite ready to be announced yet.

 

[Benjamid]

I have a 2017 iMac with a fantastic display, what is the significant upgrade going to do?

120hz rate + variable refresh rate for reading documents, thinner bezels I would hope