Mac OS X 10.3.4 Released

[chasingapple]

Im wondering if the people having issues with the patch frequently mess with the OS and modify settings with 3rd party programs. Would make sense considering Apple releases an update to improve the core OS settings and file system, no wonder it breaks peoples computers that mess with that foundation.

Just food for thought, dont be so quick to blame Apple for your tinkering

P.S. Windows you can tinker all you want, its broken anyway! Leave OS X alone, its perfect.

 

[pleasehelpme]

the safari update lets you download hotmail attachments - finally!

 

[gekko513]

I didn't realise everyone had some many little problems normally!

I have no problems with any part of my system software. When I was running 10.3.3 everything worked as should. I'm happy that 10.3.4 didn't break anything (that I've found so far) but now everything is yet again so much faster!

I guess I don't have any system changing apps.

I'm like you. I almost never have any problems.

But a friend of mine has all kinds of small problems.

I've watched him use his Mac, though. He installs programs to try them out, then he deletes them by trashing the App, then by searching for the app-name and trashing whatever matches. Last week I had to stop him and ask if he really wanted to delete that file (name was similar to the app-name but clearly belonged to some other app or was a system file of some sort). He also deletes anything that he thinks looks untidy in his file system. He usually can't wait if a problem occurs, but force-restarts Finder when it's working on something.

The morale is: If you're not nice to your OS then your OS will not be nice to you.

 

[guifa]

ah, ok then. well the blue menu highlight colour i get is RGB 48, 99, 176 or 49, 101, 181 just using the colour picker there seems to be a slight difference in colour even in the same menu highlighted item.

so here's what you found (on the top) compared to me running 10.3.3:

RGB - 48,100,178 and 49,100,179
RGB - 48, 99, 176 and 49, 101, 181

so there might be a slight difference, but i may be getting different values because i'm just using a screenshot of a menu...

well since i have a 10.3.3 screenshot, i might post a 10.3.4 screenshot when i update if there is a big difference.

See my earlier post using a compare pictures function. The are the same.

 

[taran]

Logging on

Since installing 10.3.4 it takes ages for the bar at the top of the screen to appear (over 30 seconds), whereas in 10.3.3 it appeared right away. Comparable to Windoze now

I'm using a dual 1.8Ghz with 1.5Gb RAM.

Also, stuffit takes 30 hops to open! I've repaired permissions, rebooted and even shut down, to no avail. Finder sometimes takes ages to launch as well

Has anyone else noticed this?

 

[manu chao]

Just updated. New powerbook 15.2" 1.5Ghz failed to restart. All I would get is a black screen... no Apple logo. Had to take the battery out three times and let the notebook sit, after about 10 tries pressing the power button, it finally booted on. I haven't restarted since, calling Apple tommorow.

Little irritated to say the least. Ohh and my battery meter reports my battery is completely dead even though its not.

For all those with trouble with their batteries, check out http://www.raynersoftware.com/ibatt/ It's the best tool I've seen so far to check the health of your battery. It's shareware but the free demo can already do a lot.

 

[devman]

Nope.

Well, my pb can sleep and reconnect to wireless no problems. But... since I went over 1GB memory now I too have the problem where a large data transfer over wireless loses the wireless network completely. I've had no problem for weeks with less than 1GB but now I have this problem every time since I have more than 1GB. B ut I can sleep and reconnect just fine.

Time to go find out how to report to apple (well, add my name to the list).

 

[pgwalsh]

IE and safari don't support XUL. Neither does Camino. Mozilla and Firefox do.

My bad... I talked to the developer again and he said he used ASP COM and Javascript, so there's no reason the page shouldn't work, but it didn't.

 

[primalman]

some X.3.4 observations

after doing the update, some things:

• After the optimize on the install, screen blank, no response, powerdown and reboot.

• first reboot was very slow, but applications launches were normal

• repaired permissions, just a few

• second reboot was pretty fast

• Mail and Safari both launch very fast now, compared to before

• Mail is MUCH more responsive to user input and servers, nice!

• Safari is moderately more responsive, mostly with menus and such

• Otherwise, about the same

Satisfied that my Mac did not implode and disappear

FYI - Powerbook G4 1ghz/512mb/60gb/15"/SD TiBook

 

[killmoms]

Question: A few people have mentioned massive slowdowns (instead of speed-ups) in OpenGL performance after the update. Is anyone else experiencing this—i.e. is this an across the board problem, or isolated? Being able to play Halo would be nice.

--Cless

 

[lordandrei]

I just kept wondering about that....

Wonder if this update fixes the desktop Finder bug with all the drop shadow artifacts under the file names. So far so good!

Co workers never could coroborate that they'd seen that behavior. I kept wondering if it was just ugly shadowing. I never could find a way to purposely cause it.

It's good to hear someone else has seen it.

 

[GiantsFan]

safari keeps crashing on me. like all the windows would close and a pop up would ask me if i want to send a bug report to Apple

 

[cobraverde]

I installed the update on my G3 iBook (post-logic board replacement) and have noticed a significant dulling of the color display. I've tried recalibrating, but can't quite get it how it looked before.

ALSO, with everyone saying how much faster Safari is, I feel the opposite. I notice considerably longer load times, and MOST annoyingly, Safari takes a bizarrely long time to quit as the computer grinds away. Any ideas? Anyway to uninstall back a step?

 

[JFreak]

Since installing 10.3.4 it takes ages for the bar at the top of the screen to appear (over 30 seconds), whereas in 10.3.3 it appeared right away. Comparable to Windoze now

I'm using a dual 1.8Ghz with 1.5Gb RAM.

Also, stuffit takes 30 hops to open! I've repaired permissions, rebooted and even shut down, to no avail. Finder sometimes takes ages to launch as well

Has anyone else noticed this?

do you have plenty of fonts installed? i have several hundred and it takes ages because of that. for a clean user the desktop loads almost instantly.

 

[bousozoku]

after doing the update, some things:
...

• first reboot was very slow, but applications launches were normal

...

The first re-boot will always be slow because it's loading various files into their proper locations, replacing older versions. It's part of the upgrade process.

 

[hi_im_rob]

Question: A few people have mentioned massive slowdowns (instead of speed-ups) in OpenGL performance after the update. Is anyone else experiencing this—i.e. is this an across the board problem, or isolated? Being able to play Halo would be nice.

--Cless

massive slowdowns here

 

[primalman]

The first re-boot will always be slow because it's loading various files into their proper locations, replacing older versions. It's part of the upgrade process.

Yes, I know this. I was simply stating the series of events as it happened. But it was longer than any other .x update after the unreponsive state I mentioned before this reboot. That to me was notable.

 

[chasingapple]

Yes, I know this. I was simply stating the series of events as it happened. But it was longer than any other .x update after the unreponsive state I mentioned before this reboot. That to me was notable.

Maybe it had more to do then the last update....

Really people are we going to start benchmarking the first update boot? LOL

 

[macnews]

no problems

Just updated my 17" PB 1.33Ghz. Restarted, repaired permissions, restarted again - everything works fine so far, in terms of what I use everyday like mail, camino, word, excel, itunes, iphoto, preview.

No problem what so ever with fan or disk issues, still as quite as ever.

My only grip, and it has nothing to do with the update, is Mail sometimes "stops" getting messages from my work pop account. Work uses Groupwise and I can still get mail through pop access but every now and then I just stop getting mail. I can send but not recieve. To fix it, I have to go in to preferences and click "get messages now" from the server. I do this and it starts working again. I was hoping this update, with changes to mail, would fix that, but it didn't. If anyone else is having this problem with other pop clients I would like to know. I have not been able to find this listed any place else.

Sorry a bit of topic at the end, but for those of you holding out with PBs I don't see a need to worry. Will test my 17" imac here later tonight.

[edit] did the update on my 17" imac and all is working well. Doesn't seem faster on the imac where it does slightly on the powerbook. A few things I have noticed on both machines: Camino no longer has display issues with macrumors. Prior to the update all the ad stuff between the topics on the front page wouldn't scroll with the rest of the page, resulting in a mess to read. That no longer happens, I take due to the gl update.

 

[bousozoku]

Maybe it had more to do then the last update....

Really people are we going to start benchmarking the first update boot? LOL

Right. There were more/bigger things replaced which couldn't be touched normally, so they had to be done during the boot. It seems a little crazy that we'd care. I dunno.

 

[manu chao]

MAIL - Remove message from server when deleted from inbox still does not work on my office machine. how is it that this STILL isnt fixed!?!?!?!?

Did you report the bug? Did you complain to your Apple Account's Sales Engineer?

I have the same problem, I reported the bug to Apple and talked to the people at AppleCare. Since it does work with some POP-servers but not with others, they directed my to my provider (usual response, if the responsibility can put on other software/people, that's what they do at AppleCare).

Here's the likely reason for this problem (fishtank22 already knows this):

Yuval Kordov:

This is a problem with Mail and how it is communicating with the mail server when it tries to delete a message. My ISP has corrected the problem by making some adjustments to the mail server config. This is the explanation I received from them:

The exact cause of the problem is still not 100 % clear, as they are still debating exactly who is at fault. What we know is this: the pop server that we use for normal members, tpop3d, has provided lots of information about this problem, which mainly effects Mac OSX users, as well as Outlook users who have not downloaded updates for their software. The RFC standards (which is a set of rules that mailservers and clients are supposed to follow so they work together) are followed by tpop3d. The way deleting mail off the server according to these standards are that one the client connects to the server, it downloads the messages, it then tells the server to delete the files (Which the server queues), the client disconnects by sending a 'quit' command, then the server deletes the files. According to the RFC standard, the pop server must wait for the client to issue the 'quit' command before it processes the delete commands. With the Mac OSX client, it was sometimes sending the 'quit' command after it disconnects or at the same time as it disconnects, so the pop server doesn't receive it. This resulted in the server not deleting the messages just downloaded. Some pop3 servers are more lenient to the RFC standard, which is why this problem does not occur everywhere. On the other hand, there has also been discussion with tpop3d that the pop3 server does receive all the necessary commands, but due to the way the last packet is received from the client, it causes the pop server not to parse it properly.

http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?13@133.N1EXa4rFnPP.0@.688f290d/28

 

[ghoman]

Question: A few people have mentioned massive slowdowns (instead of speed-ups) in OpenGL performance after the update. Is anyone else experiencing this—i.e. is this an across the board problem, or isolated? Being able to play Halo would be nice.

--Cless

HALO and UT2k4 are virtually unusable on my 17in 1.25ghz iMac after this cursed upgrade. I have tried fiddeling with all of the settings in both games I thought might help (details, shaders, fps, etc.), but nothing really seems to speed them up any. This is a major crapper as I really enjoyed playing the multiplayer games on my Mac for awhile. I am a recent switcher too and was happy as heck until this popped up. Oh well, back to my Windlowze PC for games I guess.

 

[Bodie]

Safari Slo Down

"ALSO, with everyone saying how much faster Safari is, I feel the opposite. I notice considerably longer load times, and MOST annoyingly, Safari takes a bizarrely long time to quit as the computer grinds away. Any ideas? Anyway to uninstall back a step?"

Safari is slower on some pages. Not happy.

G4 1.25 Single/768

 

[donwarnersaklad]

optical character recognition

How do you set up the ocr software with a new canon
canoscan LiDE 80 color image scanner for a new iMac apple computer ?...

References
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_character_recognition
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/o/optical_character_recognition.html

http://www.scansoft.com/omnipage/mac/
http://usa.canon.com

b.
For OCR optical character recognition what manufacturers models
scanners include ocr software completely compatible with the
20 inch iMac apple computer OS X version 10.3.4 ?...

Apparently, that information is not readily availble at
http://apple.com

 

[JFreak]

alright, it's time for final judgement: because protools runs fine and has no problem recording a massive project, the 10.3.4 must be a very good release