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narco said:
God I hope they fix Safari. I really thought they'd catch it with 10.4.1, but nope. Still crashes as much as Microsoft Word used to in Panther.

And I hope it's one of those "overall performance upgrade" things, because Tiger is really slow on my dual 2ghz G5 with 3gigs of RAM. Dashboard takes about 15 seconds to load each time with only 5 widgets.

Fishes,
narco.

15 seconds is awful mine loads in 2 seconds with 16 widgets (using a 1.7 GHz PowerBook)
 
Mitthrawnuruodo said:
Hope this fixes my only real complaint about 10.4.1: Safari's tendency to crash a couple of times a day, each time after I close a tab...

Safari is very stable on my 3 computers with Tiger.
 
aswitcher said:
I really hope this fixes the iPhoto bug that is screwing up any picture alterations I make... :mad:

I've tried to replicate this problem and cannot. A lot of people complain about it but I've noticed nothing.
 
buryyourbrideau said:
yea hopefully then weather wont crash on me everytime i start up now and by weather i mean in dashboard :p

I use weather everyday in dashboard and no crashes. I do think that more control over the placement of the widgets would be helpful.
 
narco said:
I hope they fix Safari. I really thought they'd catch it with 10.4.1, but nope. Still crashes as much as Microsoft Word used to in Panther.

And I hope it's one of those "overall performance upgrade" things, because Tiger is really slow on my dual 2ghz G5 with 3gigs of RAM. Dashboard takes about 15 seconds to load each time with only 5 widgets.

Fishes,
narco.

I am using the same machine with only 1.5 GB RAM and use 20 plus widgets. They load within 2 seconds. I do think fast user switching lags for a second though.
 
mad jew said:
Me too thankfully. :)

Off topic, love your 'tar swissmann.

Thanks for the note on my 'tar. I've been working hard to get my 500th post so I could put something on there. I was a bit nervous that it wouldn't be very good - but I like it anyway, it makes me laugh. Oh and 10.4.2 will be nice because bug fixes are always nice (staying on topic).
 
wordmunger said:
Dang! With all these issues I think I may be waiting till 10.4.3

You might as well wait until 10.4.304 or something then. I think Tiger is very stable. It does have bugs and speed issues, but no worse really than 10.3.whatever just different. Besides you gain the beauty of Spotlight (almost use it exclusively to find things now) and the helpfulness of dashboard. Plus the beauty and excitement of what HD video has waiting for us around the corner. I'm glad I upgraded despite the imminent problems.
 
wordmunger said:
Speaking of QT, does anyone know if Tiger forces you to upgrade to Quicktime 7? Because I really don't want to pony up the money for QT Pro again....

As I recall (and someone maybe already answered this but I missed it). It does force you to upgrade to QT 7 unless you rename and/or move or a combination of them QT6. When I first upgraded I renamed and moved QT 6 and then searched for anything that said quicktime and made copies of all the components in a folder. I then installed Tiger and had both QT6 and QT7 and they both worked. I don't remember if I still had all the Pro features in QT6 (I'm pretty sure I did). Again this is all from memory so proceed at your own risk. Or if you have the pro apps (Final Cut Pro) you can still use them for the QT Pro features like exporting etc.
 
killuminati said:
I hope it fixes the problem with my dock freezing. That drives me crazy.

Do you mean where it hides and won't show again? I have the same problem. Go to Activity Monitor in Utilities Folder and Quit the dock. It will pop up again. Not a bug I like but very easy and quick to fix.
 
narco said:
Does anyone also have problems uncompressing files with Stuffit? Finder quits every time, but when I try to uncompress the same file after the freeze-up, it works fine. I have to do this every single time.

Fishes,
narco.

There were some issues with stuffit if you did an upgrade install where you needed to delete stuffit 9 and reinstall it. Your problem sounds different though. After the reinstall of stuffit I have had no problems (and use it a lot).
 
On my iBook Tiger seems to have more bugs than Panther ever did. These include

1 - Safari regularly freezing and crashing.

2 - It is also beachballing sometimes for up to 30 seconds. This may well be (dialup) connection related, but I don't recall it being this bad on Panther.

3 - Finder will not allow me to move an item into any of my Movies, Music or Pictures folders by dropping it on folder in the sidebar.

4 - Finder in column view mode does not always accept using the left cursor key to go back to the folder last viewed. It never seems to remember the preview window setting either, especially when switching back from icon or list view.

5 - Finder maxing out CPU and hanging when attempting to preview an avi formatted movie file. I know there is no QuickTime codec available yet, but can't Finder just display a generic icon instead of giving up the ghost.

6 - Incorrect lengths of mp3 files in preview window too

7 - Dashboard weather widget crashing or simply not working. But given the RAM that widgets use and the noticible slowdown this creates I've stopped using them completely.

8 - iPhoto totally screwing up images after they are edited in any way. This is a major source of annoyance.

I really hope that some if not all of these bugs are dealt with in the 10.4.2 update. As has been said, Tiger feels very much like a public beta than a final release.
 
Jmitch said:
I wouldn't even go near Palm until they release a Tiger version. I don't really like their software any how. I'm not touching anything Palm 'till they release Palm Desktop for Tiger. I can wait.

I've used the old Palm Desktop and had no problems I know of. One one computer I install it so that I can use the Entourage sync to skip past it so Palm Desktop doesn't really get used. However, on my other computer my wife syncs her Palm up with the Palm Desktop. She doesn't use it that often but it seems to be working. Apple just needs to come out with a handheld device.
 
mrcrapperson said:
Confirmed, on my PowerBook it takes, on average, less than a second or two, loading seven widgets. I backed up, erased everything, and ran a clean install of Tiger. No problems so far. I wonder if the people who are reporting slow Dashboard and other bugs ran a clean install or an upgrade? Or could it just be linked to the speed of network connection?

Good point about the speed of the network connection. I have cable internet and my dashboard is very quick.
 
I've got a 700 ibook and I've never had a problem with Tiger. 10.4.0 or 10.4.1.
Maybe it is because I put in a 100GB HD in December.
or maybe that is why I had replace the reed switch and inverter cable in March. Or because Apple had to replace my logic board last July, twice.
Either way, I'm past applecare and short a few screws. Both in my reputer and skull
:cool:
 
Xenious said:
Here is hoping that "no known issues" means that the high pitched "G5 chirp" is gone! Thats my only annoyance. Panther never did it so loud. Everything else is rock solid on my system, bring it home guys!
The G5 chirp is the PSU. It's a known hardware issue. You should get it replaced under warranty.
 
deebster said:
On my iBook Tiger seems to have more bugs than Panther ever did. These include

1 - Safari regularly freezing and crashing.

2 - It is also beachballing sometimes for up to 30 seconds. This may well be (dialup) connection related, but I don't recall it being this bad on Panther.

3 - Finder will not allow me to move an item into any of my Movies, Music or Pictures folders by dropping it on folder in the sidebar.

4 - Finder in column view mode does not always accept using the left cursor key to go back to the folder last viewed. It never seems to remember the preview window setting either, especially when switching back from icon or list view.

5 - Finder maxing out CPU and hanging when attempting to preview an avi formatted movie file. I know there is no QuickTime codec available yet, but can't Finder just display a generic icon instead of giving up the ghost.

6 - Incorrect lengths of mp3 files in preview window too

7 - Dashboard weather widget crashing or simply not working. But given the RAM that widgets use and the noticible slowdown this creates I've stopped using them completely.

8 - iPhoto totally screwing up images after they are edited in any way. This is a major source of annoyance.

I really hope that some if not all of these bugs are dealt with in the 10.4.2 update. As has been said, Tiger feels very much like a public beta than a final release.

What irritates me is this neverending "public beta" talk...the fact that YOU have problems might be much more dependent on your specific config and tweaks, or on the way you installed your system...

1 - Safari works perfectly;

2 - No beachballing whatsoever;

3 - No problems moving items to the sidebar;

4 - Use View Options to set the exact way you want your windows to look;

5 - Am not aware of that issue;

6 - Am not aware of that issue either;

7 - Dashboard works great for me;

8 - iPhoto DOES NOT screw up my images, and does not change gamma or whatever.

Yes, Tiger works great NOW; yet, I look forward to any future updates in order to have the smoothest experience possible.
 
swissmann said:
Thanks for the note on my 'tar. I've been working hard to get my 500th post so I could put something on there. I was a bit nervous that it wouldn't be very good - but I like it anyway, it makes me laugh. Oh and 10.4.2 will be nice because bug fixes are always nice (staying on topic).


Okay, you can slow down now. Eleven of the last seventeen posts! :eek:

Nah, I'm just joking around. :D
 
I'm also having no issues with either Safari or Mail. Both work fine.

I just wish they'd fix the Hide at login issue so my network volumes, Safari, Mail won't clutter up my Desktop, forcing me to manually Hide/or Close each of their windows.

I'd also like to actually find invisible files using Spotlight, so I can manually uninstall misbehaving apps. If I hadn't manually uninstalled Symantec's Norton Utilities with Panther before upgrading, I'd have been unable to get rid of all the pieces of the Tiger-incompatible app from my HD. (Yes, the Symantec Uninstaller doesn't work)
 
Jmitch said:
I personally haven't had a single problem with Tiger yet. I don't know about all of these issues people are complaining about. At least the issues are minor and aren't entire system fail issues like some other operating systems out there. I think Apple has done an outstanding job with Tiger. The more updates are very welcome though. The more they can do to improve Tiger the better. But, I thought 10.4.0 was great.

Exactly what I just said above...NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER on my iMac G5 2.0...
 
fingers crossed

"graphics drivers"

Fingers crossed this will solve the problem I (and a few others I've heard from) have had with flickering on a PB-driven ACD which started with the updated drivers in the 10.4.1 update. Shows itself on full screen DVD playback, RSS screensaver, panning on the pictures screensaver etc.
 
Just a few rare-- and I mean rare as in "I can't remember the last time it happened, but it has happened once or twice"-- crashes of the weather widget. Nothing more than that, really.
 
Congratulations BRLawyer. I'm very happy for you.

Of course I was referring to the problems I had, since without the benefit of telepathy or teleportation I am unable to comment on how Tiger runs on YOUR system.

Hence why I said 'feels very much like...'.

But clearly YOU know better don't you :rolleyes:

By the way, I did a total erase and install
 
Tiger Upgrading

I think that those people having the most issues with Tiger fall into three groups:

1. Those who didn't prepare their old systems before performing the upgrade (e.g., Repair Permissions, Disk Warrior, iDefrag) to assure all system, application, and data files are in a pristine condition, and checking that all their old system's apps have been upgraded to a Tiger-compatible version.

2. Those who have installed features that conflict with Apple standard apps (e.g., modifying Safari, Dock, Menu bar, whatever) and not removing them before the upgrade.

3. Those who are true power users and discovering issues with their pro apps that more routine users aren't likely to experience.

Yes, there are a lot of gotchas in Tiger, but I haven't come across any that are show-stoppers for me, yet. ;)
 
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