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But TM should just give an error before backing up at all, something like "TM only works on a disk formatted XYZ". Backing up 10 gigs and then stopping is poor behaviour on the app's part.

I agree.It should give that error.But it doesn't.

And to be honest with you it really won't matter in a couple of months.
 
Can the PPC machine recognize GPT? If so then just partition it that way and let TM take care of the rest.

Maybe I'll have to try that... but given that the support document gives an either/or (ppc/intel) solution, I'm not hopeful.

How do you back up a Time Machine backup? Can you drag the backups.backupdb to a (different) external drive and then bring it back after reformatting? I know I could just start TM from scratch, but I'm wondering if I'd have to.

Also, does each computer's TM need it's own partition, or can they use the same volume? Can you resize a partition without losing data?
 
Disable spotlight indexing on all drives during your initial backup. It worked for me, I was having the same problem on my initial time machine backup

how do you disable it?? Uncheck all in the System Preferences? But then does Time Machine still work correctly?
 
Its a pretty solution for something that already was in Tiger. What is wrong with it? It would probably be easier to mention what ISN'T wrong. First off the displayed stack MOVES when you have the Genie effect on. So take your mouse off the dock and your target moves. Its worse on Fan view then grid so I don't use Fan for ANYTHING. Nice design Apple. Second the icon in the dock is ever changing. This is beyond retarded and speaks to the notion that this was Jobs's baby and NO ONE would dare tell him its a flawed idea. I mean really. What the heck use is an icon as a representation of a folder if it continually changes? Third "view as" should have a open in finder so people who want the "normal" view can get it. Fourth. The view is SLOW as hell to show the contents of the icon. I have my docs folder in the dock and it takes a good 3 seconds to change the icons to preview icons granted I have about 50 files in that folder but still. Once you do it once its fine but it looks unprofessional to watch your icons render because Apple did a crap job on Stacks. There are probably more. I can't think of them off the top of my head.
Funny. I see it as a feature they put in to please the crowd. Remember all the hullabaloo about Piles a while back?
 
I think that's one of those "That's not a bug, that's a feature!" kind of things. Probably so if you accidently named a document wrong, you don't accidently change the extension.
I was thinking the same thing as I was typing this particular item.

One person's bug is another's feature, eh? :D
 
Im starting to think the 10.4.11 update has been scraped. There has been no word on it for weeks. Certainly no more developer releases anyway. Plus Apple never released an update for an OS that has been superseded. Security updates excepted.
Anyway, Why hold of on Tiger altogether just because of this small update!? 10.4.10 is a big step forward over any release of 10.3

As for you guys that are clearly getting all moist about 10.5.1.. Seriously guys, get a grip of yourselves.

10.4.11 is waiting for the Mac Pro update to be released ;)
 
Originally Posted by vassillios
I agree this doesn't fix the contextual menu heirarchial view in the dock. And i also agree that it should be an option to totally bypass the stack option and go straight to folder view.


Which is what was so good about it under Tiger.

except that it would take FOREVER for the applications folder hierarchical menu to render
 
Exactly.

I was not trying to claim that there is not a problem for some users, just that it's a bit overblown when you consider all of the facts.

I'm a picky user also, it bugs me that my downloads stack is always ugly and that I can't replace it with a nicer icon, but it's just not the unmitigated disaster that it's being made out to be.


Try doing what I did. Create a folder in your downloads folder and name it 0 (the number 0). Do a "Get Info" on the original Downloads folder, click Apple C on the Icon at the top of the Get Info box. Go to the newly created folder and do a get info on it and click Apple V on the icon at the top.

You now have a folder with the Downloads icon on it that will always be placed first in the stack (if you sort by name).

This is not a new hint and is very quick and easy.
 
...I really do hate paying APPLE $129 for the privilge of being a beta seed tester. Which I think is what 10.5 really is.
No final testing-just shoved out the door as-is because of the magical "Oct 26" date that had to be adheared to...

$129 is a bargain. An ADC Select membership is $500.
 
Try doing what I did. Create a folder in your downloads folder and name it 0 (the number 0). Do a "Get Info" on the original Downloads folder, click Apple C on the Icon at the top of the Get Info box. Go to the newly created folder and do a get info on it and click Apple V on the icon at the top.

You now have a folder with the Downloads icon on it that will always be placed first in the stack (if you sort by name).

This is not a new hint and is very quick and easy.

That only works if you sort by date added.Try sorting "by kind".;)
 
Sorry but ipfw is no longer enabled/actively filtering by default and the user either needs to jump into the console or needs to download an application to make the rules.
Agreed - that is why I said Apple needs to put in an "Advanced" section for users to be able to control ipfw in addition to the application firewall. To be honest, I think the app firewall is simply better for the majority of users out there for the purpose of a firewall. They want things to "just work" and that's what it does - it protects the user by application instead of simply by port. BTW - my experience is very heavy in networking, including setting up Solaris, Sun OS, Linux, FreeBSD, and OS X network environments using Cisco, Raptor, and ipfw, ipchains, etc...
The simple test is a port scan using TCP and UDP, I think you will notice the difference. Run it against Tiger and then Leopard. Also the fact that by default, the Leopard firewall is in allow all mode, makes no sense. Those on laptops or that are otherwise mobile, will not have a Nating router to protect them while on the road.
I know the difference. The question is not is it different - YES its different! The question is does it still protect an average user and I say that both do, in different ways. Most people will be better served by the App firewall.
Any reasonable firewall (port or app based) need to deny by default all connections with just a few exceptions. Not be on allow all and disallow a few.

Agreed. But that's a settings issue, not an issue with the firewall itself.
And the worst part is that no matter how hard you worked in securing the system via the Tiger firewall, Leopard upgrade undid your work and some users did not know to check. I have never heard of an OS, messing with the settings of the firewall if they were set by the user. And in the few cases where LInux changed the entire firewall, it was disabled and you knew ahead of time to redo the work.

Agreed.
 
...The reason Stacks can be better is that:...
b) extra unncecessary windows are not opened. why do I need to open an extra finder window to launch an application?...

Well, good to know some people like it.

Your point is good but I *don't* have to open an extra window to launch an application... Because I have this application called Application-launcher! ;) (Quicksilver, in my case)

If Stacks is Apple response to a problem a *lot* or users are facing for ages (launch application without opening an extra window or do the mouse-keyboard-mouse-keyboard routine), I think it's a missed opportunity.

I do think it looks cool 'tho. For me, it's cool-but-useless feature.
 
No the whole stacks is pretty much un-usable as is

Exactly.

I was not trying to claim that there is not a problem for some users, just that it's a bit overblown when you consider all of the facts.

I submitted my thoughts on Stacks and how the functionality is totally crippled from what was first demoed. I don't understand why apple decided to combined stacks and folders and eliminate the original features with something that is almost totally unusable.
Here is how I think Stacks should work. Arbitrary selection and grouping ( this is the way it was originally demoed). That way if I have folder full of stuff I just select the stuff I want grouped and then drop it on the dock no need to first put it in a different folder. (which as it is now kind of defeats the whole purpose of stacks)

A Folder could be a Stack but this would be optional, preserving the original functionality.

Finally the dock would eliminate the arbitrary line between apps and folders/links/minimized windows. There is no reason for this. And if Stacks worked like I envision I could have a Stack of documents next to my stack of Word processing apps and a Stack of photos next to my Stack of Photo programs....etc. If they wanted to keep the minimized windows to one side that would be ok, but they could be minimized next to their icons in the Dock which would probably work better.
Anyway, this is how I think Stacks should work.

I encourage everyone frustrated with this problem to let apple know. This is a big screw up and it has made me consider re-installing Tiger to get rid of this "stacks" feature. Something that I was really excited about until I tried to use it as shipped.

thedude
 
I submitted my thoughts on Stacks and how the functionality is totally crippled from what was first demoed. I don't understand why apple decided to combined stacks and folders and eliminate the original features with something that is almost totally unusable.
Here is how I think Stacks should work. Arbitrary selection and grouping ( this is the way it was originally demoed). That way if I have folder full of stuff I just select the stuff I want grouped and then drop it on the dock no need to first put it in a different folder. (which as it is now kind of defeats the whole purpose of stacks)

A Folder could be a Stack but this would be optional, preserving the original functionality.

Finally the dock would eliminate the arbitrary line between apps and folders/links/minimized windows. There is no reason for this. And if Stacks worked like I envision I could have a Stack of documents next to my stack of Word processing apps and a Stack of photos next to my Stack of Photo programs....etc. If they wanted to keep the minimized windows to one side that would be ok, but they could be minimized next to their icons in the Dock which would probably work better.
Anyway, this is how I think Stacks should work.

I encourage everyone frustrated with this problem to let apple know. This is a big screw up and it has made me consider re-installing Tiger to get rid of this "stacks" feature. Something that I was really excited about until I tried to use it as shipped.

thedude


I'm beginning to think i'm using stacks wrong as I have NO problems with the way they work. My workflow has improved and I can navigate way faster.
 
did I see that some people are still on Panther?????? c'mon, give me a break, you're obviously not utilizing your Mac for anything worth while. You'll be lucky to even install Leopard on a Panther machine.

Your newbie underwear is showing!

I run Panther on a Powerbook 1.5 ghz 15''. It's nearly 3 years old, and still works fine.

It beats the *newest* macbook in the following ways:

Better graphics card.
Better frame rates in UT2004, and Doom 3.
backlight keyboard
better keyboard
bigger screen
Expresscard slot (I can add eSATA, spare FW800 ports, GPS etc)

On ebay UK, my laptop sells for around £400+ ($800). That's looking at the *completed* sales.

Try selling a 3 year old windows machine for £400.

Apples last longer than your windows machines. I haven't bothered to upgrade to Tiger as Panther does what I want.

I'll be buying a macbook soon for portablity and the isight, but my Powerbook is still a workhorse and has paid for itself many times over.
 
have? well i'm patient with Apple, they'll deliver, right now things are so busy and crazy all over the company that its actually quite amazing that they're even delivering as they have!

:)

i don't know what is it with you guys....if this was something related do microsoft you would be like "oh this piece of crap...of course its microsoft full of bugs and badly misconcepted"

but hence it's Apple... "ohh ok...we'll wait coz apple ROCKS!!! Steve Jobs is GOD on earth"
... -_-'
 
And of course the biggie, that you can no longer heirarchically navigate folders sitting in the dock.

Absolutely #1 problem with Leopard for me. I used hierarchical menus in Tiger to open any file I wanted - usually several folders deep. With Leopard, I have to open the stack. select the folder I want, then use Finder to migrate to the file I want, then after the file opens, go back to Finder to close the folder.

That's enough of a pain that I'm using a slightly less painful method most of the time - launch the app, close the blank file it creates, then use the 'open file' command and migrate to the app.

Either of these is vastly slower than doing it the Tiger way. I hope Apple offers that as an option after an upgrade or at least that some third party developer enables it (although I usually stay away from hacks, I'd add that one).

Apple messed this one up badly.
 
I haven't been able to read through all the posts yet, but I'm just posting this work around for the stack's icons here because I haven't seen in mentioned in any of the threads I've read:

http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/11/12/enhance-stacks-with-stacks-overlays

Like I said, it's a work around, but seems like it might be preferable to any other options so far? I don't have Leopard yet - I'm just trying not to assume everyone knows about this, just in case people haven't tried it yet.

That only addresses the appearance issue of the stacks (which, to me, is a trivial matter, although others think it's important). The real problem with Stacks is the loss of hierarchical menu functionality to a kludge that takes many times more effort.
 
No Problems with Leopard

I'm wondering whether the folks having problems with Leopard are the ones that did an upgrade instead of a clean install? I did a clean install of Leopard and have not had one single problem with this new OS. It is faster and so far, Safari is stable and quick. In addition, installing Leopard repaired my noisy beeping power supply (which was a known bug with the G5s). Again, no problems here. If there are bugs that I have yet to come across, then I'm sure v10.1 will correct them.
 
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