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Mac OS X 10.5.2 Not Quite Ready Yet (9C30 Seeded)

Does anybody else think that the Leopard retail boxes are going to have a little green sticker on them reading "10.5.2" pretty soon?
 
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BoyBach said:
Does anybody else think that the Leopard retail boxes are going to have a little green sticker on them reading "10.5.2" pretty soon?
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LOL now that was funny
 
HyperZboy said:
I don't mind waiting if it fixes some all of the most glaring problems with 10.5:

1) Powermac G4 boot delay with various Nvidia graphics cards.

2) All of the various Nvidia and ATI graphics card artifacting issues, including the all of the problems with newer games like WoW, Doom 3, Prey, etc.

3) Glaring omission of hierarchical menus in the dock.

4) And the various other minor stability issues, wifi issues, etc.

If all of the above is fixed, then I'd be willing to wait another week or 2 as long as it's done right.

Thanks for listening Apple.
Can't wait to finally install Leopard on the rest of my Macs.
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the boot delay is caused from temperature sensor enabled Geforce cards that is conflicting with the AppleHWSensor.kext in G4 systems only (so far that i have seen). you remove the .kext file and the boot delay is gone. themacelite.com covers this issue (if you already didn't know) which i think you already do. which this might not be fixed cause it could be a issue Apple to put into pace to try to force you not to do it.

one of the builds say if fixes issues with WOWs artifacting with video cards.
 
iCeFuSiOn said:
I'm pretty sure that Onyx just applies the infamous "sudo defaults write /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.WindowServer 'EnvironmentVariables' -dict 'CI_NO_BACKGROUND_IMAGE' 0.62" hack to make the menu bar opaque so it's not exactly a 3rd party hack.
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im pretty sure its 3rd party ok.
 
BWhaler said:
Sure, I feel the pain of Leopard like everyone else around here. Leopard symbolizes what is wrong with Apple nowadays: poor quality and trying to do to much.
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dagamer34 said:
10.5.1 was probably rushed out the door because of the showstopper Finder bug that was never caught, I hopefully we'll see some of the stability Tiger had returning.
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I guess I'm using a different Leopard then you guys. I've used it since day 1 and have had zero issues (except 3rd party apps not being compatible, for which I can hardly blame apple) at any time.
 
andy721 said:
I hate anything 3rd party. They are done by poor software engineers.
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WTF? Are you serious, or truly that clueless? Has it not occurred to you that Apple deevlopers come out of the pool of 3rd party developers, and that the pool of 3rd party developers includes retirees from Apple?

Or look at it another way...next time you are on a flight remember this...the avionics software that controls the aircraft's takeoff, flight, and landing was not written by Apple, but by those poor third party software engineers.
 
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Time is not an issue for me. I just hope apple gets this update right and squashes most of the bugs or atleast the big ones. I preach mac to all my friends and family but leopard has made me feel like i am running windows again and I HATE WINDOWS.
 
I vote for 9C 28 or 29 and the hope that 2-3 of 10 issues preventing developed but buggy "future features" be resolved.

RAID for laptops, wireless discs, seamless IP discs, ZFS write, utility that is free to download that turns any wireless router into a public wifi to those devices who happen to know the widely distributed (to iPhone devices) but still random password.

A device and software to make a modern mac universally compatible with past Mac apps and devices.

Rocketman
 
kbmb said:
Could be worse...they could be Microsoft.

XP was released 10/2001
SP1 was released 9/2002
SP2 was released 8/2004

I'd say we are lucky with Apple's schedule....months instead of years!

-Kevin
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Speaking of Microsoft, they just sent Vista SP1 to manufacturing. They aren't going to release it online until next month, though.

As long as Apple gets 10.5.2 out before then I'll be happy. Since then we'll have still gotten most of our bugs ironed out before they did theirs.
 
CWallace said:
And here comes SP3 in 3/2008, right on schedule. :p
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What about Vista? When was that released again? And have they even released the first service pack for it yet??? I want to see how many dot releases we get before they get the first service pack lol :D
 
kabunaru said:
I am afraid Apple might charge for this update. Would Apple even do this? Charge for a software update? :confused: :(
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I highly doubt that Apple would charge for a .2 release. I believe it would be the first time ever for an upgrade to an already purchased OS upgrade...but then again look at the January update to the iPod touch. If they charged for the .2 update Apple would have massive complaints against them.
 
joshcampbell115 said:
I highly doubt that Apple would charge for a .2 release. I believe it would be the first time ever for an upgrade to an already purchased OS upgrade...but then again look at the January update to the iPod touch. If they charged for the .2 update Apple would have massive compliments against them.
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I think you mean complaints. I don't think they'd have any compliments!
 
MacFly123 said:
What about Vista? When was that released again? And have they even released the first service pack for it yet??? I want to see how many dot releases we get before they get the first service pack lol :D
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SP1 is to be released very soon, so Apple will likely have sent 10.5.2 by that point.
 
Mindflux said:
Why not? Car companies do it all the time.
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I hope Apple hasn't gone as low as car companies. The iPod Touch update added features, not fixed bugs, as I heard (I don't have an iPod Touch). 10.5.2 is hopefully bringing Leopard to the point where it should have been when it was released, if Leopard hadn't been rushed out.
 
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