Mac OS X 10.5.2 Not Quite Ready Yet (9C30 Seeded)

[CBlakeston]

10.5.2 is turning into Apple's "Vista"....

As far as I know Apple have never announced a release date for 10.5.2 its just masses of speculation fueled by new stories. Vista was announced publically and slipped many times, so i'm not sure how you get that comparison? Rag on Appple TV for being late if you want.

 

[beestigbeestje]

10.5.2

from what I heard, the update is as big as 400mb. I'm curious...

The fact that my brothers Macbook (2.0 ghz 1GB RAM) boots faster into leopard than my 2.4ghz Macbook Pro 2GB, is making me wonder why I payed so much more for it.

and I'm talking about a clean install...

 

[macnerd77]

My guess is that Apple is co-developing the AppleTV update with the Leopard update, and that they will be released simultaneously. Anyway, I hope they both come soon.

I agree. I bet they are revamping the interface for frontrow so it will match that of the apple tv. Allowing us to purchase/rent movies from frontrow.
don't take this as a feature that I want. Because I dont care about a frontrow update I just want stability

 

[kaiwai]

I am afraid Apple might charge for this update. Would Apple even do this? Charge for a software update?

Stop lying and coming up with bullcrap. Apple never charged for the iPod Touch/iPhone update to 1.1.3 - the only charged for the EXTRA applications.

Read and repeat - free update for all, $20 for the applications.

Question: Why are there so many morons here?

 

[hhaeschen]

Could some please explain to me why so many people expect the update to be released either on a Tuesday or Friday? Has there been "historical evidence" for such behaviour?

Thanks!

 

[HyperZboy]

People seem to be "raging out" over the fact that hierarchical menus are broken for stacks? WTF!?? There are other issues that are much more important that affect people that have to do real work with 10.5.1, but you don't see most of them complaining.

The loudest complaints seem to be from people upset over minor, piffling, stupid issues.

Not true at all. If you've got lots of important folders, files, bookmarks/links stored in appropriate folders for say a business like I do and want quick access to them through the Dock through hierarchical menus sorted by importance, Leopard destroys all of that functionality and limits you to a small number of files for quick access. THAT MEANS RE-ORGANIZING YOUR ENTIRE WAY OF STORING INFORMATION.

Who is going to do that?

THAT'S WHY STACKS' PROBLEMS ARE A BIG PROBLEM TO SO MANY PEOPLE!

 

[shadowfax]

The fact that my brothers Macbook (2.0 ghz 1GB RAM) boots faster into leopard than my 2.4ghz Macbook Pro 2GB, is making me wonder why I payed so much more for it.

Do you have Windows installed? Try playing Counterstrike: Source. Your Bro' won't even be able to play it, or if he can, it will look terrible.

I wouldn't judge a Mac by its boot time alone. Is yours not faster in general usage? My MBP was a huge step up from the BlackBook I had.

 

[shadowfax]

Could some please explain to me why so many people expect the update to be released either on a Tuesday or Friday? Has there been "historical evidence" for such behaviour?

Thanks!

Apple hardware products are traditionally released on Tuesdays, although that precedent has been occasionally ignored in a few notable releases in recent years.

Someone listed the day of all of the Mac OS X 10.x.y updates back several years in a recent thread. There is no real pattern to the release date, other than that it's on weekdays.

 

[EagerDragon]

I am running 1.5.1 and very happy with it, I have none of the issues a lot of you are reporting. However I am using a powerbook G4 and not Intel so that may have a lot to do with it. Outside of TimeMachine changes/fixes I am very Happy with Leopard and my network is very stable.

 

[mikes63737]

I'm glad they're taking their time. 10.5.0 was unstable, and 10.5.1 was better but created new bugs.

I hope they fix all the Airport / Bluetooth issues on their laptops.

 

[propropro]

closed apple store

 

[Civic]

Yep, Apple Store down, on a Tuesday morning.

 

[IT-Pro]

closed apple store

That's early. The Dutch one isn't closed for your information, not yet at least.

 

[madmax_2069]

yep the stores are down here in the US, could this mean we will see the MBP update and possibly the 10.5.2 update later today ?

i do hope so about the update

 

[Blaxje]

Woohoo! Bring us new MBP's and a 10.5.2 update!

 

[Civic]

Canadian Apple Store went down as well now. European and Japanese still open.

 

[adrian.oconnor]

1,2,4

Hey it's almost a fibonacci sequence for their release year intervals

It isn't actually anything like the Fibonacci sequence, which looks like this:

0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55

I'm not usually so pedantic about such matters, but nobody else has stepped in. 1, 2, 4 ... is a geometric progression with a common ratio of 2. Numbers in the Fibonacci sequence are the sum of the preceding two numbers (except for 0).


P.S. Please hurry up with 10.5.2 Apple! I have had to revert to Tiger on my iMac because Airport is so unreliable on Leopard.

 

[gnasher729]

I am a programer. Given the fact that they had no know issues for weeks, they screwed up. They made a patch that is too large to get past QA. Programs get exponentially harder the bigger they are. They should have released a couple of smaller patches instead one large one. They could have released a wifi fix, a graphics fix, a TM fix all separate. They have done things like that in the past. Who ever is the release manager should be get more help.

Good luck with your career. Compilers are very picky about spelling and grammar and all that, but they only find grammatical errors, they can't figure out when your reasoning is wrong.

How does software go from "no known issues" to "known issues"? Very simple: Bug reports and testing. Now if you don't have any users and don't do any testing, then going from "no known issues" to "known issues" is a bad sign. On the other hand, it could mean that your test department is doing a really good job.

But I am really wondering where you get your knowledge from. "A patch that is too large to get past QA"? I doubt it is true, and I doubt very very much that anyone who knows could post here without being in breach of an NDA.

 

[Blaxje]

It'll probably be a 16GB iPhone. Nonetheless, the Canadian store is down too, so maybe there is some other update coming.

 

[vvebsta]

did anyone see that 3.0 8 core mac pro for $2499 on the refurbished section of the apple store?

 

[johnnyjibbs]

Can't wait for the new stacks. To be honest, I like the transparent menu bar on my dad's Intel Mac, so will be keeping that option ticked once my new UPDATED MacBook Pro arrives (come on Apple )

Nice to see that Apple is spending some time ironing out the bugs before release though.

 

[vvebsta]

I want stacks to be its own entity. I dont want it to just be a fancy short cut. I want to grab all the clutter off my desktop make them a new stack and have them actually disappear from the desktop. That would actually be useful!

 

[madmax_2069]

I want stacks to be its own entity. I dont want it to just be a fancy short cut. I want to grab all the clutter off my desktop make them a new stack and have them actually disappear from the desktop. That would actually be useful!

cant you just make a folder (or use a current one used in stacks) and drag the files into the stack, last time i checked you could drag the file out of the stack and put it on your desktop maybe you can do the reverse. have you tried it. i know you can make any folder into a stack.

 

[vvebsta]

cant you just make a folder (or use a current one used in stacks) and drag the files into the stack, last time i checked you could drag the file out of the stack and put it on your desktop maybe you can do the reverse. have you tried it. i know you can make any folder into a stack.

whats the point of having a stack if i have the folder on my desktop? you know what i mean?

edit: oh i get it now...yeah your right, i could do that!

 

[spookje]

I hope they will fix all the various issues with Leopard. Hopefully I will be able to connect to 8021.X wifi network at school without the need of getting a copy of Tiger's Internet Connection app. The whole WiFi/networking stuff in Leopard is dodgy. Dropping connections like a traffic light, and half the time it doesn't show connected computers.