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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, for the love of all things holy, i just want Mail to actually HIDE when selected to do so as a login item... it never does...

I have to have Mail run when I boot or it will crash. That is another story however...once Mail has booted I read my mail then then red light it back to the Dock where it informs me as new mail arrives.

What specific issues are you experiencing...
 
Fix the sound "pops" that many (most) can hear when they have external speakers attached to their mac....why does the sound have to pop every time it powers on and off?

(I bet this stays broken until 10.6!)
 
Os X 10.5.6

Will the 10.5.6 update finally fix the firewire issue in the new aluminum MacBooks?:D
 
But if we all do not have the same experience ... now what.?


Many, many do have sound (card) problem with Leopard. It is one of the most popular topics at the Apple support discussion sites...

The Official "audio popping" thread"
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8171657&#8171657

And others....
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8168086&#8168086
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8404565&#8404565
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8212946&#8212946
 
I sure hope they update the drivers for my MacPro graphics. i have the uopgraded card in it and it cant even run the flury screensaver without a hickup every minute or so, so don't even think about HD content ,the files are on a raid drive that is more than capable of playing it back so it must be the drivers for the graphic card
 
Fix the sound "pops" that many (most) can hear when they have external speakers attached to their mac....why does the sound have to pop every time it powers on and off?

(I bet this stays broken until 10.6!)

That would be the only issue I have. Not sure about the powering off and on. I never turn off my computer. Only sleep. Could it be hardware related? I remember a thread here in the Macbook Pro subforum.
 
bugs

yeah, the pop is pretty annoying. Also I use my mac as my alarm clock, but the alarm won't wake up the mac if I put it to sleep manually which, is not the biggest issue ever, but is a little weird.
 
That would be the only issue I have. Not sure about the powering off and on. I never turn off my computer. Only sleep. Could it be hardware related? I remember a thread here in the Macbook Pro subforum.

I do not mean the computer turning on and off, I mean the sound hardware (card) itself turning on and off, which it seems to do all the time as a power-saving thing...
 
If Apple stops point releases for Leopard after Snow Leopard as they've done in the past, I guess that'll mean they are going to stop security updates for Tiger soon after. After Leopard was released, Tiger received 1 more point release and Panther 1 more security update. I was hoping that with the increased install base of Macs now, Apple would continue supporting security updates for Tiger. I don't believe Jobs has shown OS breakdowns recently and I'm pretty sure the last one shown, Tiger was still in the majority, even though Leopard adoption was significant. Admittedly though, for Apple to remain nimble, they really should keep forcing people to keep to the most recent 2 operating systems.

NO, Apple needs to get their act together and deliver five years of security updates after last date of retail sale for any OS product.
 
I'm still figuring out how to share a single folder on my Mac Mini's USB drive with Windows. SMB kinda works, but the permissions are all screwed up. I think that might be a bug here.
SSH (remote login) kinda works, but that reveals all files of the internal HD, too.

Copying stuff over external drives sucks... and then there's this problem with file systems... either it's incompatible with the other OS (yes, I'm aware there are plugins that work) or there's the FAT32 4GB filesize limit.

You can use Ubuntu Linux as an intermediate system as it will recognize both formats.

Download it here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
 
Awesome, thanks!

I'm still figuring out how to share a single folder on my Mac Mini's USB drive with Windows. SMB kinda works, but the permissions are all screwed up. I think that might be a bug here.
SSH (remote login) kinda works, but that reveals all files of the internal HD, too.

Copying stuff over external drives sucks... and then there's this problem with file systems... either it's incompatible with the other OS (yes, I'm aware there are plugins that work) or there's the FAT32 4GB filesize limit.

The permission problems you are running into are likely ACL related. You cannot (for whatever reason) see/set ACL permmissions through the gui.
 
Bugs are still omnipresent across the system

Not quite true, is it?
Since years issues with Preview.app have been resolutely neglected by our beloved* company (why on earth would some documents appear terribly pixelated well under an enlargement to 100% - at anything above 70 % often, and others render 100% enlargement at what Preview.app shows as 300%; why is editing .png files unmanageable and so forth), and why would Address Book backups grow from a few megabites to well over hundred MBs!
And why would a network connection invariably crash an attempt to seek a file on an Airport disk?

I bet these issues haven't been addressed.

*I'm not being sarcastic referring to Apple as "our beloved company" as I am ever a great fan of Apple and its products, but bugs in software must at least be acknowledged.
 
If everyone experienced the same problems then Apple would have fixed them by now because all of their engineers and programmers would have seen them already.

There are a lot of problems with Apple hardware and software that they choose to sweep under the rug.

Some get denials and others simply get deleted from the Apple Discussions pages.
 
There are a lot of problems with Apple hardware and software that they choose to sweep under the rug.

Some get denials and others simply get deleted from the Apple Discussions pages.

I love it when somebody else writes exactly what i am preparing to.

I don't mean to make light of it... this is a multi-billion $ company touting expensive products that 'just work'.

Makes me sick that this is the forefront of technology.
 
The permission problems you are running into are likely ACL related. You cannot (for whatever reason) see/set ACL permmissions through the gui.

I kinda found a fix for the problem. I made a symlink for the folder I want to share and put that symlink into Users/Shared. It didn't worked at first, after doing some trial and errer, it turns out Windows (Vista) can't halde shared folders that are all capitals, which is pathetic. So "Shared folder" and "shared folder" work, but "SHARED FOLDER" will give you mysterious errors.

Now I can't really use the shared folder reliably from the Macbook... can't have it all I guess...
 
When Apple's notes say this, it must mean no "known issues" for the subset of problems they are targeting in a given release.

It's either that or no known regressions, I don't know which. Definitely not "we think there are no bugs in this release" though. I'd be shocked if they have less than 10,000 open bug reports, probably much more.
 
OS 10.4 Tiger

I think what Apple means with "no known issues" is what you say, that the problems that they set out to fix in a point release are fixed. It's very unlikely that Apple or anyone else can ever claim to have fixed every possible issue a piece of software is likely to have. All they can do is pick a set of issues that are the most severe, effect the highest number of people, is consistent with the direction of current and future OS, and can be fixed in a given time frame. Then they just fix those issues, check with others to make sure that the issues are fixed, and check with others to make sure it doesn't break something else. Their bar is probably as long as it doesn't make things worse then it passes, it doesn't necessarily make things better for everyone or everything.


I believe after Tiger hit double digit point releases 10.4.xx and the counter overflowed, Apple changed the version counter in Leopard so that double digit point releases can be detected properly. If they are going to stop after 3 more point releases, I guess that work wasn't needed afterall.

If Apple stops point releases for Leopard after Snow Leopard as they've done in the past, I guess that'll mean they are going to stop security updates for Tiger soon after. After Leopard was released, Tiger received 1 more point release and Panther 1 more security update. I was hoping that with the increased install base of Macs now, Apple would continue supporting security updates for Tiger. I don't believe Jobs has shown OS breakdowns recently and I'm pretty sure the last one shown, Tiger was still in the majority, even though Leopard adoption was significant. Admittedly though, for Apple to remain nimble, they really should keep forcing people to keep to the most recent 2 operating systems.


My wife, daughter, son & his wife are all still using OS 10.4. I still have an OS 10.4 partition that I keep up-to-date & use occasionally. These & many others do not yet like the way that OS 10.5 works. Because of the way I store my data for my income tax prep business I may have to switch back to OS 10.4.11. OS 10.5.5 changes the location of where files are that can be linked together. OS 10.5.5 wants to make all of these files resides on my System Start-up & Application drive & not on the data file only storage drives. That's the way I have always done things on my Mac over the last 24+ years. That is also the way I have been taught at school in the very recent years. My System/Application drive is 2 WD Raptor 150 GB drives connected in a RAID 1 setup. My data files are much larger & stored on either of my 1 TB internal drives or any number of external drives, most of which spent time as an internal drive in my Intel Mac Pro or my older Power Mac G4 dual 1.25 GHz model. I do not intend to switch the way that I store my data, so this may mean back to OS 10.4.11 with the probable no security spdates. But that the way it always has been & will probably be in the future. This is the only way that Apple can keep their adoption of the new OS version usuage as high as they do. I have only been using OS 10.5 since this summer, because of a fautly ATI x1900 video card keep OS 10.5 from installin, loading &/or run correctly. This is even though I have owned it since a few hours before it offically went on sale. I'll do the same with OS 10.6. Sometimes it is incorrect to assume that just because someone has purchased the new software version that they actually use it at all or even on a limited basis. I know that I own Office 2007 for the Windows side of my Mac & MS Office 2008 for my Mac & only use them when I am forced to.
 
OS 10.5.5 changes the location of where files are that can be linked together.

Huh? What does "linking files together" mean? I have know idea what you mean. If you elaborate with some details of what you're talking about, maybe we'd be able to tell you the solution.
 
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