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Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard First Impressions

Well now that that's settled...

Can we get any info on Time Machine and AirPort disks? I'm sure a lot of people are dying to find out if the removal of that paragraph from the Leopard site is really as bad an omen as it seems.

(I'm one of them)
 
arn said:
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First impressions of the final version of Leoard is newsworthy.

You think AppleInsider had a "legal" copy of leopard to do their leopard series?

I do not condone piracy and we will ban anyone trying to distribute or facilitate piracy here. But if someone is honest/stupid enough to post first impressions of the final build of Leopard in a public forum, it is of interest.

arn
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Agreed. This is a news/rumors site, after all.
 
iTunes seems much faster than before
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I look forward to hearing four-minute songs played in three minutes. Might all sound a bit soprano but that's the price you pay for progress.
 
DoreanGrae said:
Well now that that's settled...

Can we get any info on Time Machine and AirPort disks? I'm sure a lot of people are dying to find out if the removal of that paragraph from the Leopard site is really as bad an omen as it seems.

(I'm one of them)
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The guy is from Germany and it is very early in the morning there as well as the fact that the moral people waded quite heavily in on that thread and scared him away.
 
Did Apple put this guy up to it? How did he get a copy? What makes him so special?! :rolleyes:

However, after reading his post, my RSS feeds sure seem snappier.

Giovanni Palestrina
 
Palestrina said:
Did Apple put this guy up to it? How did he get a copy? What makes him so special?! :rolleyes:

However, after reading his post, my RSS feeds sure seem snappier.

Giovanni Palestrina
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If you are really that interested there are 3 links to the original thread on the first page, you can read for yourself
 
Isn't it risky for the guy to be posting photobooth images of himself?.....if he isn't legit that is

I dunno what it is or why but i am just not that excited about Leopard my stance on the whole OS is....meh.
 
DoreanGrae said:
Well now that that's settled...

Can we get any info on Time Machine and AirPort disks? I'm sure a lot of people are dying to find out if the removal of that paragraph from the Leopard site is really as bad an omen as it seems.

(I'm one of them)
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I'm not sure we're going to get any new information coming through in this thread, however, this issue is of particular interest to me, as well.

In fact, it was one of the primary reasons I planned on buying a new Mac *and* Airport...
 
What is wrong with jumping the gun?

"pre-ordred a family pack"
Well, if you did, then it seems to me that downloading 10.5 early is not exactly theft.
You paid for it.
You are just getting it 3 days early. BFD.
 
Minimum Requirements for Leopard (posted on other Leopard thread too)

I have just noticed that the 'megahertz' limitation probably doesnt apply to dual-core G4 systems. If you have a look at this page:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306687

It says that a Dual G4 at 800MHz suffices to initiate a 10-person audio conference.

1) To initiate one must obviously have a copy of Leopard. Therefore it WILL install on Dual 800MHZ G4 systems.

2) This may mean that the megahertz limitation doesnt apply to dual-core G4 systems.

3) The requirement seems to be equated to a 1GHz single core G4. Therefore it seems that probably one may be able to run leopard on systems with slower, dual core processors.
 
Says he's got a family pack license. At this point, I imagine that there are multitudes of boxed copies making their way to Apple stores (and distribution centers for on-line orders), perhaps sitting there already ready for the Friday store release or Thursday shipping for Apple's promised over-night parcel delivery on the 26th. Just thinking about the odds - all those copies in all of those stores / distribution warehouses - it's certainly conceivable that it's a legal copy that just escaped into the wild a little early.
 
law guy said:
Says he's got a family pack license. At this point, I imagine that there are multitudes of boxed copies making their way to Apple stores (and distribution centers for on-line orders), perhaps sitting there already ready for the Friday store release or Thursday shipping for Apple's promised over-night parcel delivery on the 26th. Just thinking about the odds - all those copies in all of those stores / distribution warehouses - it's certainly conceivable that it's a legal copy that just escaped into the wild a little early.
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Exactly but no....guilty until proven innocent eh

xUKHCx said:
...the fact that the moral people waded quite heavily in on that thread and scared him away.
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Shoulda just let the poor guy alone and let him share the info he had. Honestly some people are so annoying...:rolleyes:
 
any word on how bootcamp runs, i need to run a windows app for work and i would love to get rid of the old beater i use for windows and run it off my macbook 2.0ghz 512mb ram 80gb

should i get more ram for leopard
 
lazymuoio said:
any word on how bootcamp runs, i need to run a windows app for work and i would love to get rid of the old beater i use for windows and run it off my macbook 2.0ghz 512mb ram 80gb

should i get more ram for leopard
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I greatly recommend getting more RAM for Leopard...
 
lazymuoio said:
any word on how bootcamp runs, i need to run a windows app for work and i would love to get rid of the old beater i use for windows and run it off my macbook 2.0ghz 512mb ram 80gb

should i get more ram for leopard
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Definitely
 
Mykbibby said:
Got it... sorry about that! Can you not delete my account though?
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Asked Mods to delete his request and follow-ups. I can't understand the "since it's out there, let's all have it" mentality that seems to be behind the request (it's also seems a little crazy to solicit that on a public board). Also the assumption that there's a torrent or piracy and wanting to get in on it if it that's the case.
 
macboy62 said:
1. Lost of revenue for Apple. I don't want to lose Apple because of that and I don't want Apple to have to start with "Activation" to protect their product. They trust us, we should repay that trust by buying the product.
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Considering Apple is now a multi-billion dollar corporate empire, similar to Microsoft but with more black t-shirts, I don't think a few pirated copies of Leopard will affect them much. However, I do believe that activation is something they should be doing right now. It just makes sense.
 
arn said:
But if someone is honest/stupid enough to post first impressions of the final build of Leopard in a public forum, it is of interest.

arn
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I agree with stupid, but I guess it is not up to us to protect him if he wants to crawl out on the limb and saw off the branch behind himself either.

Especially with pictorial evidence posted on a site read by soo many Apple employees. :eek:

I guess all we can really say, is thanks Pete. And enjoy the story.
 
PCMacUser said:
Considering Apple is now a multi-billion dollar corporate empire, similar to Microsoft but with more black t-shirts, I don't think a few pirated copies of Leopard will affect them much. However, I do believe that activation is something they should be doing right now. It just makes sense.
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I disagree. Product activation sums the MS experience up completely. As a user I am treated as a criminal and forced to prove my innocence. Apple actually trusts me. Apple trusts me, doesn't overcharge for their OS, and so even if I do end up torrenting it before Saturday (the earliest I could make it to an Apple store), I'd still pay for it.

Most MS folk can't say that.
 
PCMacUser said:
Considering Apple is now a multi-billion dollar corporate empire, similar to Microsoft but with more black t-shirts, I don't think a few pirated copies of Leopard will affect them much. However, I do believe that activation is something they should be doing right now. It just makes sense.
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Are you insane!? I don't want my Mac experience to turn into something resembling a Windows platform ie. Jumping through hoops to get software you bought to work. Activation does nothing more than piss off legitimate owners of the software yet it merely only adds an extra step for people who really want to pirate it.
 
thejadedmonkey said:
I disagree. Product activation sums the MS experience up completely. As a user I am treated as a criminal and forced to prove my innocence. Apple actually trusts me. Apple trusts me, doesn't overcharge for their OS, and so even if I do end up torrenting it before Saturday (the earliest I could make it to an Apple store), I'd still pay for it.

Most MS folk can't say that.
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While a lot of people claim noble (or at least ethical) intentions to delete a pirated copy after they get the legal copy, it has to be assumed that most people won't. (If I recall, there were lots of students claiming that they would be pirating Leopard after the edu price went up).

We're not there yet, but there has to be a point where Apple says "enough" and either adds activation or ups the price.
 
I dont think the pirating is that bad for OS X. Apple charges a reasonable price for the OS. Activations just lead to cracks for people who really want an illegal copy anyways.
 
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