Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
And the 'Laptop Hunters' ads aren't misleading, at least as to what people really pay? I say if MS is gonna hammer Apple on price alone, one good turn deserves another.
The ads really aren't that misleading, because most people generally won't get hardware at a discount. I mean, it's a pretty well established fact that Apple hardware tends to cost more than comparable PC hardware. It's not really a bad thing, but naturally, they will be priced too high for some customers, while others will find them just right.

And Apple more than makes up for Microsoft's advertising with their own.
 
Tiger question???

What up? First post :)...Still running Tiger on original Intel Macbook(don't know full specs, graphics card, etc)...is it worth it to ante up & buy the SL Mac Box Set? Would I see real improvement is speed, efficiency, etc.? I'm pretty sure I've only got a gig of RAM & only about 20GB space left on my HD...My computer is chugging along pretty slowly with more intensive tasks(boxee, internet video, iphoto,...) as it is...& also is it possible to not load the iWork program w/ the Box Set to save HD room, I really have no current use for it. Thanks.
 
What up? First post :)...Still running Tiger on original Intel Macbook(don't know full specs, graphics card, etc)...is it worth it to ante up & buy the SL Mac Box Set? Would I see real improvement is speed, efficiency, etc.? I'm pretty sure I've only got a gig of RAM & only about 20GB space left on my HD...My computer is chugging along pretty slowly with more intensive tasks(boxee, internet video, iphoto,...) as it is...& also is it possible to not load the iWork program w/ the Box Set to save HD room, I really have no current use for it. Thanks.
I believe the Box Set comes with two DVDs, one containing the OS and the other containing iWork. So you'd just install the OS.

And yes, I'd recommend Snow Leopard over Tiger. Even on just 1 GB of RAM, you're likely to see improvements across the board.
 
What up? First post :)...Still running Tiger on original Intel Macbook(don't know full specs, graphics card, etc)...is it worth it to ante up & buy the SL Mac Box Set? Would I see real improvement is speed, efficiency, etc.? I'm pretty sure I've only got a gig of RAM & only about 20GB space left on my HD...My computer is chugging along pretty slowly with more intensive tasks(boxee, internet video, iphoto,...) as it is...& also is it possible to not load the iWork program w/ the Box Set to save HD room, I really have no current use for it. Thanks.

I think so. Max the RAM first it'll be cheap. If a slight increase in noise isn't bad you may want to move to a 7200rpm Hard Drive and wait for the Snow Leopard Mac Box Set.

It appears that Apple has done a lot of optimizing and if you've skipped Leopard for whatever reason you'll probably not want to skip Snow Leopard.
 
For the first part, what?

As for java, whats stopping you from writing in java? Did you expect Apple to release a new version of a language that Sun Microsystems makes? What are you trying to say?

Thanks for the reply, but obviously you don't have any idea...

Steve Jobs during Macworld (was it 2006?) said it would be the year of HD for the Mac, but here it is 2009 and we still don't have Blu-Ray support.

As for Java, yes, I do, as so does everyone else, expect Apple to supply it, as they always have. Apple told Sun, that they themselves, would handle Java on the Mac. (And Steve Jobs also made the comment during Macworld (2007?) that the Mac platform would be the best platform for Java developers - and then they promptly lagged behind every other OS in releasing updates)

Hope that helps.
 
I believe the Box Set comes with two DVDs, one containing the OS and the other containing iWork. So you'd just install the OS.

And yes, I'd recommend Snow Leopard over Tiger. Even on just 1 GB of RAM, you're likely to see improvements across the board.

3 DVDs.

OS X, iLife and iWork.
 
I don't think Apple wants to muddle with the message of crowing about ZFS to loudly too soon. It may be there just not advertised in the messages about "what's new". If most of the mac specific aps work off of HFS+ it is going to be hard for ZFS to replace it. There are a few aspects of ZFS that are different from HFS+ (case sensitivity and ACLs ).

Java shouldn't be released on the same schedule as the OS anyway, IMHO. Java should be released on the java schedule with the other platforms. ;-) Holding back or rejiggering for Mac OS X features is what I think has hiccuped the development significantly anyway. Again this is another one of those features Apple really doesn't want to advertise too heavily even if they get it done. ( more clapping and dancing over Cocoa 64bit and other stuff they have that Java apps aren't necessarily coupled to. )


Another post listed Oracle acquiring Sun as perhaps a block for ZFS. Then it would be one for Java too. I don't think Oracle is going to kill off either one at this point though. ZFS is a core element of Sun's Unified Data servers (would be asinine to throw one of the fastest growing products in a portfolio you picked up) and Java is also critical to too many other projects.

Yes, I agree that Apple should release updates more frequently than just in the OS updates. It was disappointing that the only way to get the last update was if you upgraded the OS. I figured that they would have an update in the OS this time around, too. But, it doesn't sound like it.

ZFS - I thought they have it supported in the Server version of Snow Leopard? I was hoping that they would also bring that to the consumer version. But, you might be right - they may still do it before the release and they didn't make a big deal out of it. I thought they would have to to get the developers on board.

As for the Oracle/Sun acquisition - I thought it still wasn't finalized and the companies were still independent. So, if Apple has a deal in place with Sun, I don't see how Sun could block the technologies right now.

Thanks for the reply and info!
 
After it's all said and done it'll return 6 gigs to you.
that is nice, goes to show how bloat was for x32 implementation that they were able to clean up.

btw, did anyone read the justification for read-only HFS support via bootcamp - to prevent virus on mac partition...LOL. ppl still still do not take viri on mac seriously, well it won't be the first time apple marketing is wrong again. :D

exchange support thru mail, ical, address rocks - if it works. b/c M$ entourage is terrible, the less i use it the better.
 
$29? Don't expect much from this release.

He brings up a good point. Aren't Mac users always saying that cheap = bad. If this were a Microsoft release I bet there would be loads of comments about how it didn't deliver value for money, or you have to consider total cost of ownership.

Apple finally release something that doesn't cost more than competitors and everybody rushes to congratulate them.

But ignore what I say because I'm just a bitter G4 user.
 
that is nice, goes to show how bloat was for x32 implementation that they were able to clean up.

Nobody said the 6GB savings is limited to a 64bit only install of Snow Leopard.

The savings come from other areas such as optimization and compression techniques. Perhaps even because they are no longer compiling for PPC systems too that may have muddied the install.

It would be nice if Apple listed the details, but to the end user it doesn't matter. I'll look at it as getting a free 6GB of disk space that I'll find uses for. :D
 
$29 is a bargain, and $49 for the family pack is amazing. So my wife's new MacMini will be upgraded.

But it's not such a cheap upgrade if you have a PowerMac ;) Ahhh, well, I've been eyeing a MacPro for some time, and by the end of the year I will have been 4 years without upgrade! :D
 
I still don't understand all the crying about blu ray support. Sorry, its NOT as popular as people think it is. Really.

Its also too expensive for a disk. Blu ray is a niche product but some people refuse to believe that just because THEY use blu ray.


That would be the equivilent of me getting upset about the lack of expresscard slot on the new mbp. Yes I will miss it but not a lot of people use the thing. Most people don't even know what it is.
 
I still don't understand all the crying about blu ray support. Sorry, its NOT as popular as people think it is. Really.

Its also too expensive for a disk. Blu ray is a niche product but some people refuse to believe that just because THEY use blu ray.
I have a Blu Ray player, and the only discs I play on it are standard DVDs. BR discs are too expensive in comparison (although I plan to make an exception for the Watchmen). But the technology is there, it's available to PC users (and Macs if you're prepared to go that route), so I guess people think it only reasonable that the technology should be built in to their Mac from the get go.

Not a deal breaker for me either, but hey-ho.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.